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TheRickGrimes · 11/25/2012, 05:37 pm

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Yeah seems like that's what they were going for though it just kinda conflicted with his character because of his whole "family matters" mindset, not giving in by suicide, friendship with Lee depending on player actions and trying to find Clem after taking care of her so long with the rest of the group and knowing Lee was going to die soon.

Felt like a bit of a rushed and pointless death. I heard if Ben dies in episode 4 he dies by having to lift Christa up from a hole in the roof by giving her a boost up then just getting killed by the walkers inside the room. That to me doesn't conflict with his character at all and it was a death that happened because he had no options for escape or fighting back but in Ben's final scene he could have.

Yes, if you kill Ben then Kenny bumps into Lee and the walkie falls into the hole. Then Christa becomes a bitch and jumps down after it before Lee can say anything and gives the walkie back but can't get out of the hole, and walkers start to come from the noise. Kenny gets pissed off and jumps in and helps her up, but cannot get back up himself and is trapped by walkers.

That death was mainly Christa being retarded.

CalDW19940 · 11/25/2012, 05:41 pm

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Originally Posted by TheRickGrimes

Yes, if you kill Ben then Kenny bumps into Lee and the walkie falls into the hole. Then Christa becomes a bitch and jumps down after it before Lee can say anything and gives the walkie back but can't get out of the hole, and walkers start to come from the noise. Kenny gets pissed off and jumps in and helps her up, but cannot get back up himself and is trapped by walkers.

That death was mainly Christa being retarded.

Haha, yes the pregnant women jumps in over the guy who's about to die from the bite :L

TheRickGrimes · 11/25/2012, 05:51 pm

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Originally Posted by CalDW19940

Haha, yes the pregnant women jumps in over the guy who's about to die from the bite :L

Exactly.

What does Omid see in her? D:

Zeruis · 11/25/2012, 05:54 pm

Remember that Irene was Christian too and did not oppose suicide. Kenny was a great character. He was more developed than Lilly, which I felt was the one character that had evolution throughout the series. Kenny died a hero, which I felt was great.

TheRickGrimes · 11/25/2012, 05:55 pm

Irene was Christian? Hmm. I didn't know that.

Hudomonkey · 11/26/2012, 08:28 am

I liked the Ben death

It was him finally forgiving Ben

I told him to leave

I refused to leave

He saw it s either a chance to die or a chance to be a hero

Forsoothe · 11/26/2012, 07:00 pm

Ben's & Kenny's deaths were the only time I full out cried in the game.

YamiRaziel · 11/26/2012, 07:11 pm

Pointless and stupid death. A waste of man power... but well it perfectly suits Kenny... doing moronic stuff I won't even think about.

Kenny is a great character, amazing in fact. I hated his personality however. I love what Telltale did with him, but I just hate the guy.
He even dare to mention Lilly... that bastard.

His Christa death scene is way better... at least there is some purpose in his death. In Ben's scene he's like doing the exact opposite of what he said we should do 5 minutes ago. Kinda of hypocritical.

"Don't give up, Katjaa shouldn't have given up... she left me bla bla bla "
*5 mins later stays to fight off hordes of walkers for an already dead Ben.

CountZero22 · 11/26/2012, 09:02 pm

After Kenny's speech about suicide, I thought his death was extremely stupid. It basically amounted to suicide, and a pointless one at that. Ben was already obviously done for. So why did Kenny need to hang back just to put him out of his misery? In the time it took for Kenny and Lee to exchange dialogue, either one could have shot Ben and they both could have been up the ladder before the walkers were anywhere near them.

I liked Kenny's character arc a lot, even though I spent a significant chunk of the game thinking he was an enormous asshole. So it was really disappointing that his death was so lame.

HSPLazerz · 12/01/2012, 09:56 am

I think that the Ben scene is more badass, but the Christa scene makes more sense.

TheRickGrimes · 12/01/2012, 10:35 am

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Originally Posted by YamiRaziel

Pointless and stupid death. A waste of man power... but well it perfectly suits Kenny... doing moronic stuff I won't even think about.

Kenny is a great character, amazing in fact. I hated his personality however. I love what Telltale did with him, but I just hate the guy.
He even dare to mention Lilly... that bastard.

His Christa death scene is way better... at least there is some purpose in his death. In Ben's scene he's like doing the exact opposite of what he said we should do 5 minutes ago. Kinda of hypocritical.

"Don't give up, Katjaa shouldn't have given up... she left me bla bla bla "
*5 mins later stays to fight off hordes of walkers for an already dead Ben.

I agree. Just that I liked Kenny, haha.

donaruie · 12/01/2012, 10:47 am

I think it might depend on what you do. The first time I played I didn't have Ben so it's likely he didn't survive jumping down to save Christa (I really wish they'd have given the option to leave her to die...stupid)...the second time I had Ben but I had no bullets and it seemed pretty clear that he died trying to help Ben. The third time I made sure not to use any of my bullets in the house and gave them all to him and it kind of seemed like he shot Ben and then ran off. I really hope he made it.

TheRickGrimes · 12/01/2012, 10:49 am

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I think it might depend on what you do. The first time I played I didn't have Ben so it's likely he didn't survive jumping down to save Christa (I really wish they'd have given the option to leave her to die...stupid)...the second time I had Ben but I had no bullets and it seemed pretty clear that he died trying to help Ben. The third time I made sure not to use any of my bullets in the house and gave them all to him and it kind of seemed like he shot Ben and then ran off. I really hope he made it.

The third scenario makes it seem like he'd survive.

donaruie · 12/01/2012, 10:53 am

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Originally Posted by TheRickGrimes

The third scenario makes it seem like he'd survive.

That's what I'm hoping. Why would he ask for all my bullets if he was just planning on killing himself via walker? It seemed more like a "I need to help Ben but I want to be able to walk away from it after."

TheRickGrimes · 12/01/2012, 10:57 am

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Originally Posted by donaruie

That's what I'm hoping. Why would he ask for all my bullets if he was just planning on killing himself via walker? It seemed more like a "I need to help Ben but I want to be able to walk away from it after."

An even BETTER way would be to shoot Ben while climbing up the ladder.

donaruie · 12/01/2012, 11:08 am

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An even BETTER way would be to shoot Ben while climbing up the ladder.

Pretty much yeah...if he is alive then it's just supposed to be a suspenseful situation and Telltale doesn't want us to know for sure until they tell us...but no it doesn't really make sense for him to stay behind just to kill Ben.

TheRickGrimes · 12/01/2012, 12:09 pm

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Originally Posted by donaruie

Pretty much yeah...if he is alive then it's just supposed to be a suspenseful situation and Telltale doesn't want us to know for sure until they tell us...but no it doesn't really make sense for him to stay behind just to kill Ben.

Maybe he thought the zombies would think of him as a better snack then Ben since he has more meat on his bones?

QuarterPounderVlad · 12/01/2012, 12:48 pm

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! He must live! He Is ... He's My bro.. Fuuuck... ARGH!

TheRickGrimes · 12/01/2012, 12:50 pm

Bro's unite!

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11/25/2012, 05:54 pm	#24
Zeruis Mundy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,943	Remember that Irene was Christian too and did not oppose suicide. Kenny was a great character. He was more developed than Lilly, which I felt was the one character that had evolution throughout the series. Kenny died a hero, which I felt was great.

11/25/2012, 05:55 pm	#25
TheRickGrimes trollface Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: ...I'm not sure myself. Posts: 289	Irene was Christian? Hmm. I didn't know that.

11/26/2012, 08:28 am	#26
Hudomonkey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 482	I liked the Ben death It was him finally forgiving Ben I told him to leave I refused to leave He saw it s either a chance to die or a chance to be a hero

11/26/2012, 07:00 pm	#27
Forsoothe Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 18	Ben's & Kenny's deaths were the only time I full out cried in the game.

11/26/2012, 07:11 pm	#28
YamiRaziel Lilly Fan #1 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Woodbury Posts: 774	Pointless and stupid death. A waste of man power... but well it perfectly suits Kenny... doing moronic stuff I won't even think about. Kenny is a great character, amazing in fact. I hated his personality however. I love what Telltale did with him, but I just hate the guy. He even dare to mention Lilly... that bastard. His Christa death scene is way better... at least there is some purpose in his death. In Ben's scene he's like doing the exact opposite of what he said we should do 5 minutes ago. Kinda of hypocritical. "Don't give up, Katjaa shouldn't have given up... she left me bla bla bla " *5 mins later stays to fight off hordes of walkers for an already dead Ben.

11/26/2012, 09:02 pm	#29
CountZero22 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 3	After Kenny's speech about suicide, I thought his death was extremely stupid. It basically amounted to suicide, and a pointless one at that. Ben was already obviously done for. So why did Kenny need to hang back just to put him out of his misery? In the time it took for Kenny and Lee to exchange dialogue, either one could have shot Ben and they both could have been up the ladder before the walkers were anywhere near them. I liked Kenny's character arc a lot, even though I spent a significant chunk of the game thinking he was an enormous asshole. So it was really disappointing that his death was so lame.

12/01/2012, 09:56 am	#30
HSPLazerz Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1	I think that the Ben scene is more badass, but the Christa scene makes more sense.

12/01/2012, 10:47 am	#32
donaruie Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 13	I think it might depend on what you do. The first time I played I didn't have Ben so it's likely he didn't survive jumping down to save Christa (I really wish they'd have given the option to leave her to die...stupid)...the second time I had Ben but I had no bullets and it seemed pretty clear that he died trying to help Ben. The third time I made sure not to use any of my bullets in the house and gave them all to him and it kind of seemed like he shot Ben and then ran off. I really hope he made it.

12/01/2012, 12:48 pm	#38
QuarterPounderVlad Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 586	RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! He must live! He Is ... He's My bro.. Fuuuck... ARGH!

12/01/2012, 12:50 pm	#39
TheRickGrimes trollface Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: ...I'm not sure myself. Posts: 289	Bro's unite!