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george1120 · 11/27/2012, 09:23 pm

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Originally Posted by MuffinMansBro

He did do ONE small thing. he gives you your gun back in the mansion. Of course it's empty so it never comes to any use, but yeah.

Actually, is it possible to not use your bullets in the fight scene before? If so, would the game recognize it later in the alley scene? I have some experimenting to do tomorrow...

the game would not advance unless you use up your bullets.

oh, and it was ben who told everyone that you don't have to get bit to become a walker.

BlackPaladin · 11/27/2012, 09:26 pm

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Originally Posted by george1120

if you brought only ben with you, he will question if he should cut off lee's arm, then tells lee to do it himself. then he passes out when lee cuts his arm. lol.

Are you serious? Omg that's hilarious lmao. And also I was right that ben never got to truly redeem himself and pull his weight. That's just how TWD is.

MuffinMansBro · 11/27/2012, 09:39 pm

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Originally Posted by george1120

the game would not advance unless you use up your bullets.

oh, and it was ben who told everyone that you don't have to get bit to become a walker.

Ah, nevermind on the ammo thing then. I thought I heard somewhere that you could technically save the bullets so I almost thought I was onto something there.

And I was thinking of after episode 4. Personally, I kind of like the way he went. Him not getting the chance to prove himself, but he definitely showed the resolution to, and didn't have another big screw up. (if anyone counts falling off the balcony after kennys weight made it come loose as a screwup...that's just mean)

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that both sides can still feel that their philosophy on dropping/saving him is valid.

Chrizza · 11/27/2012, 09:53 pm

If you don't hate Ben you have severe psychological problems.

And yes, I know he's not a bad person.

cormoran · 11/27/2012, 10:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Chrizza

If you don't hate Ben you have severe psychological problems.

If you hate Ben you have severe psychological problems.

Shatilov · 11/27/2012, 11:08 pm

those 2 bullets, I will have to do some experimenting myself.

Oscilioth · 11/27/2012, 11:35 pm

I did not fire any of my bullets in the scene before we entered the attic. When I dropped my gun I felt stupid for not helping kill the zombies. Then Ben picked it up and gave it back to me with all the ammunition left in it.

Later Kenny asked me for if I had more bullets left, I gave him my gun and he fired two bullets. One definitely into Ben, and one I assume into himself.

Unless I spaced out during these scenes then I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

So Ben grabbing my gun, was a valuable act indeed...

xXNinjaScoreXx · 11/28/2012, 02:53 am

Ben also "killed" Larry...

Kenny - "Remember what Ben said, gotta destroy the brain...

Chrizza · 11/28/2012, 03:01 am

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Originally Posted by xXNinjaScoreXx

Ben also "killed" Larry...

Kenny - "Remember what Ben said, gotta destroy the brain...

Good point.

Ben is by far the most dangerous person in this game.

Viser · 11/28/2012, 03:12 am

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Originally Posted by Chrizza

Good point.

Ben is by far the most dangerous person in this game.

Really? So say he didn't tell anyone about turning without being bitten. Would you rather have Larry becoming a walker in that room with Clem, Lee, Kenny and Lilly? The way I see it, he saved everyone in that room by saying that, even if in the end I tried to help Lilly anyways.

Chrizza · 11/28/2012, 03:14 am

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Originally Posted by Viser

Really? So say he didn't tell anyone about turning without being bitten. Would you rather have Larry becoming a walker in that room with Clem, Lee, Kenny and Lilly? The way I see it, he saved everyone in that room by saying that, even if in the end I tried to help Lilly anyways.

Oh, no, I agree with putting Larry down. I just think it's funny Ben can be linked to yet another death.

Doctanian · 11/28/2012, 03:25 am

Pre-Episode 5 Ben supporters "Ben's gonna redeem himself, all you Ben haters will see."

Instead, ben falls to his death, which causes Kenny to get killed. And thus saving absouley no one. And in my playthrough, he lost the boat to Vernon. So he was a useless character from the start, his antics in Episode 3 moved the plot along, but not in a good direction.

Post-Episode 5 Ben supporters "It's not about redemption, he apologized and was forgiven by Kenny, that's enough."

Sure, whatever.

rachellouise85 · 11/28/2012, 03:27 am

Actually, I never saved Ben hoping he would do something for me. I just wasn't going to let someone fall to their death, when I could pull them up.

To me, Kenny risking his life for Ben meant more than him risking his life for Christa. It would be easier for him to go to the aid of a pregnant woman he had no problems with. So that was more of a bonus to me.

Doctanian · 11/28/2012, 03:31 am

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Originally Posted by Viser

Really? So say he didn't tell anyone about turning without being bitten. Would you rather have Larry becoming a walker in that room with Clem, Lee, Kenny and Lilly? The way I see it, he saved everyone in that room by saying that, even if in the end I tried to help Lilly anyways.

That's a real stretch. If you do CPR fast enough, Larry comes back. I think the creators confirmed this. On top of that, heart attacks can take a while to kill depending on the person.

And even if Larry did came back, you don't think the Trio of Badasses (Lee, Lilly, and Kenny) could handle him?

Rock114 · 11/28/2012, 04:31 am

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Originally Posted by Doctanian

That's a real stretch. If you do CPR fast enough, Larry comes back. I think the creators confirmed this. On top of that, heart attacks can take a while to kill depending on the person.

And even if Larry did came back, you don't think the Trio of Badasses (Lee, Lilly, and Kenny) could handle him?

His mouth just moves. TT never confirmed or denied Larry being alive, so we'll never know and it's up to each player to decide if he could be saved or not. And no they couldn't handle him! They might be badasses, but Lilly wouldn't help put down her zombified father, while Lee and Kenny don't even have any weapons. IF Larry was about to come back, Kenny saved everyone.

plaqueconspiracy · 11/28/2012, 04:40 am

I wonder what would've happened if they didn't rescue Ben. Would everyone survive and be way better off or would they be killed by the bandits?

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Originally Posted by Doctanian

That's a real stretch. If you do CPR fast enough, Larry comes back. I think the creators confirmed this. On top of that, heart attacks can take a while to kill depending on the person.

And even if Larry did came back, you don't think the Trio of Badasses (Lee, Lilly, and Kenny) could handle him?

Yep,I think they confirmed it and you can clearly see him breathe just before Kenny kills him off.

Doctanian · 11/28/2012, 04:57 am

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Originally Posted by Rock114

His mouth just moves. TT never confirmed or denied Larry being alive, so we'll never know and it's up to each player to decide if he could be saved or not. And no they couldn't handle him! They might be badasses, but Lilly wouldn't help put down her zombified father, while Lee and Kenny don't even have any weapons. IF Larry was about to come back, Kenny saved everyone.

Pretty sure they confirmed it, dude. Kenny didn't save anyone.

The_Cheshire_Cat · 11/28/2012, 05:06 am

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Originally Posted by ruairi46

Secretly ben was a seriel killer getting kicks out of watching friends die. He pushed his coach on the bear trap..

the untold story.

PhotonCC · 11/28/2012, 05:11 am

To me it was realistic that he never got the chance to redeem himself, it's the Walking Dead. Ben is a screw up and he died like one it was a fitting ending to him although he redeemed himself with Kenny and the loss of his family. In my eyes he never redeemed himself for Carley/Doug's death. Other than that he redeemed himself

cormoran · 11/28/2012, 05:26 am

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Originally Posted by Chrizza

Oh, no, I agree with putting Larry down. I just think it's funny Ben can be linked to yet another death.

You can link everyone to every death, that's the problem with the whole "Ben killed everyone" line of thinking.

Take Lee for example, from the very beginning would the cop have crashed into that walker and died if Lee hadn't killed the senator and needed to be driven to the prison? and as a result would any of what happened afterwards have happened without Lee there to influence things?

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Originally Posted by Doctanian

Pretty sure they confirmed it, dude. Kenny didn't save anyone.

They only confirmed that Larry moved, not that he was alive or had turned.

11/28/2012, 02:53 am	#28
xXNinjaScoreXx Ninjas Can Play Games Too Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In The Shadows Posts: 228	Ben also "killed" Larry... Kenny - "Remember what Ben said, gotta destroy the brain... __________________ "It Happened Pretty Fast..."

11/28/2012, 03:27 am	#33
rachellouise85 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: England Posts: 334	Actually, I never saved Ben hoping he would do something for me. I just wasn't going to let someone fall to their death, when I could pull them up. To me, Kenny risking his life for Ben meant more than him risking his life for Christa. It would be easier for him to go to the aid of a pregnant woman he had no problems with. So that was more of a bonus to me. Last edited by rachellouise85; 11/28/2012 at 03:30 am.

11/28/2012, 05:11 am	#39
PhotonCC The Logical One Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Deep Space Posts: 13	To me it was realistic that he never got the chance to redeem himself, it's the Walking Dead. Ben is a screw up and he died like one it was a fitting ending to him although he redeemed himself with Kenny and the loss of his family. In my eyes he never redeemed himself for Carley/Doug's death. Other than that he redeemed himself __________________ Maybe some of decisions that we made were not based on our thinking, they were based on our desires and humanity.

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11/27/2012, 09:53 pm	#24
Chrizza Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 58	If you don't hate Ben you have severe psychological problems. And yes, I know he's not a bad person.

11/27/2012, 11:08 pm	#26
Shatilov Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 30	those 2 bullets, I will have to do some experimenting myself.

11/27/2012, 11:35 pm	#27
Oscilioth Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12	I did not fire any of my bullets in the scene before we entered the attic. When I dropped my gun I felt stupid for not helping kill the zombies. Then Ben picked it up and gave it back to me with all the ammunition left in it. Later Kenny asked me for if I had more bullets left, I gave him my gun and he fired two bullets. One definitely into Ben, and one I assume into himself. Unless I spaced out during these scenes then I'm pretty sure that's what happened. So Ben grabbing my gun, was a valuable act indeed...

11/28/2012, 03:25 am	#32
Doctanian Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 271	Pre-Episode 5 Ben supporters "Ben's gonna redeem himself, all you Ben haters will see." Instead, ben falls to his death, which causes Kenny to get killed. And thus saving absouley no one. And in my playthrough, he lost the boat to Vernon. So he was a useless character from the start, his antics in Episode 3 moved the plot along, but not in a good direction. Post-Episode 5 Ben supporters "It's not about redemption, he apologized and was forgiven by Kenny, that's enough." Sure, whatever.