Vernon and Co.

[That1Guy]

Sorry if someone already made a poll about this but I really want to know what people think and in the form of a poll.

[TheNNerdGamer]

they're pieces of shit, instead of taking clem (because i told him to fuck off) he took the boat

hard shit

[Zeruis]

Me and Vernon were friends in episode 4 (even though I lied to him about Clem being Lee's daughter). I just couldn't believe that he and his group back-stabbed us. Took an instant disliking to the man. 'Grats on getting the boat Vernon, hope zombies tore your group apart before making it to the river.

EDIT: Great. I chose the wrong poll choice.

[Viser]

Fuck that bastard. He completely backstabbed the group, no matter how much they needed it. Our group had a little girl he was willing to take off our hands, and I told him I was gonna think about it. I hope that thing sunk and they all drowned. Or walkers got 'em. Hope walkers got 'em while they were drowning. Bastards.

[plaqueconspiracy]

Yeah, I hope they'll sit there in their boat in the middle of the ocean and reminisce about that time they just killed off a whole group of people including a little girl (for all they know). I hope they all regret it deeply and feel like shit as long as their food supply will let them.

[Dildor]

Hopefully they get lost at sea and all their food falls off the boat.

[CarScar]

I understand what they did, Vernon saw the train and connected the dots. Figured a herd was coming. Didn't have the decency to warn Lee's group though, assuming I'm correct. One thing that really pisses me off is how he said, not in my main playthrough but one of my other ones:

"You don't strike me as man who cares for others."

What? What about you my good sir? You're leaving a little girl and a group of people that helped you get some medicine... Despite this, I understand. It's a zombie apocalypse, you gotta do what you gotta do. Still it's nice to see some people that believe in humanity over survival, I thought Vernon was one of them... and now most of those people who believed in humanity are dead (Doug, Carley, Katjaa, Lee [my main playthrough]).

[DreadMagus]

I want to skullfuck them with a sledgehammer.

Draw your own conclusions.

[Moggyoxys]

I understand why they did it, but I hope something happens to those fucking invalids.

[Rock114]

Fuck'em. Seriously. I was completely honest with them, helped them get their medicine, and treated them as if they were a part of our own group. Not only did they steal our boat, but they helped us fix it under the pretense that they would have Crawford and all of it's supplies while we got the boat and left. Vernon even said in my playthrough: "Times like these, we all gotta help each other out." No, sir, you mean that WE have to help YOU build OUR boat so that YOU can STEAL it from us.

They knew we were going to use it. They knew we had a child with us. They knew it was pretty much our only hope. The guy even said I was a good man! So he's willing to steal from good people to save his own sorry ass? I hope the walkers get'em on their way to the river, they don't even deserve to touch water in that thing.

[KeyC]

When playing the game I was like "oh well, they needed it more". You know, 'collective efficiency' if you can call it that.
So when I started reading this thread I was surprised by the extreme anger for their group.
Although, when you line up all those arguments and things they said, promised etc. I'm beginning to have the same feeling, that I got betrayed.

[Chrizza]

Why does a group of old and sick people need a boat? Just die.

Lee's group deserves it more.

[KeyC]

Originally Posted by Chrizza

Why does a group of old and sick people need a boat? Just die.

Lee's group deserves it more.

I know this begins to be philosophical, but I just have to get this straight: So you value human beings by their ability to survive?
Not many of them were sick to the extend where they would surely die. I get the fact that lee's group generally was younger and therefor more 'life' to save. But they were also more capable of surviving without one, so that makes it equal in my opinion.

[Chrizza]

Originally Posted by KeyC

I know this begins to be philosophical, but I just have to get this straight: So you value human beings by their ability to survive?
Not many of them were sick to the extend where they would surely die. I get the fact that lee's group generally was younger and therefor more 'life' to save. But they were also more capable of surviving without one, so that makes it equal in my opinion.

In their world, yes.

I don't mean it in an extreme Crawford way, but I rate our group above theirs for that reason.

[ToSch]

Even better when somebody stays at the house: They beat him up, steal the boat and leave the person to become a zombie snack.

Way to go, Vernon!

[owyn]

To be fair, Lee's group just brought a huge horde of zombies to Savannah, endangering everyone in the city. Vernon and the patients might have a valid reason to hold a grudge.

[Chrizza]

Originally Posted by owyn

To be fair, Lee's group just brought a huge horde of zombies to Savannah, endangering everyone in the city. Vernon and the patients might have a valid reason to hold a grudge.

That horde of zombies Vernon saw coming into the city but didn't tell our group about?

[Sutinen]

He knew what he was doing in the end of Episode 4, he saw the zombies and didn't tell anyone about it (Not sure why Lee or Kenny didn't see the zombies from the high building they were in though)
Then before the night, he tried to save Clementine from them and leave Lee's group behind.

[bdawgnit1785]

Knew I shoulda killed that old fucker. I got rid of his bitchy loud mouth almost daughter Brie and figured that would be enough. This is how our talk after Crawford should have gone!!

Lee: Thanks Vernon for all your help back there. Oh and about Brie...

Vernon: I know Lee, it's horrible!

Lee: Yeah it is but that's not what I was gonna say. Tell her we said hello (Lee snaps Vernon's neck and watches the old man crumple to the ground) Kenny, come in here! We have some shopping to do at the morgue before we can call it a night!

Kenny: Okay Lee what's going on? (See's Vernon dead) Holy Hell! What the FUCK happened pal?

Lee: Cancer got him.

Kenny: OH...OK Lee! I'll bury him by the boy and the dog in back right quick before we set out. Poor old bastard!


TADA

[Hazevamp]

In my first play through Vernon hated me and I hated that old bastard so I understood why he stole the boat and besides I doubt they would live long enough whether they get it or not. A bunch of cancer patients dragging a large boat to that zombie infested pier? Yeah right. In my second play through, I was very honest with him and even told him that taking Clem was a good idea, he liked that Lee very much yet he still left her to save his own ass proving that he really didn't give two sh*ts for Clem and was not the right group for her to go with anyway. I hope the zombies enjoy feeding on their brittle a$$es.