If everyone is infected, why do zombie bites kill you?

[Master of Aeons]

I'm with Gudmoore. I used the search function and spit out all of the links I found. Took me two minutes. Three tops.

[rachellouise85]

" I'll make it as simple as possible. The bite doesn't spread the virus. Everyone is already infected."

yep. Obviously, yes you did. ¬_¬

[donaruie]

If you get bit by a person you're garanteed to get an instant and sometimes fatal infection. That's real world. If someone on the street walks up and takes a chunk out of your arm with their teeth...you better go to the hospital and get a shot.

Zombies carry a very active form of the virus(or whatever...the TV show describes it like a fast acting meningitis so it might be a form of bacteria and not a virus) plus they're rotting corpses so it's very likely that getting bit simply results in a very bad infection that is immune to antibiotics. How fast it kills depends on the person so...likely it depends on how healthy that person is at the time they're bit. Cutting off the limb if it's bitten before the infection spreads will save that person which is the same with heavily infected wounds in general. Lee's arm isn't cut off until after he passes out which means the infection has already spread beyond the arm. They didn't do it fast enough. Of course if the infection kills you, you turn because that's how it works in this universe. You turn no matter how you die.

[Gudmoore]

Originally Posted by rachellouise85

" I'll make it as simple as possible. The bite doesn't spread the virus. Everyone is already infected."

yep. Obviously, yes you did. ¬_¬

For one, you need to stop grasping at straws; you pulled out a miniscule piece of my post and claimed that is what the whole thing is about. If you would care to actually read more of the posts in this topic instead of playing white knight and trying to attack me you'll notice I was combating the "bite activates the dormant virus" theories.

Secondly, I admit some of the words I used, like idiot, were inappropriate to the situation. Except lazy, I'm sticking with that one.

[Tyrant]

Originally Posted by Gudmoore

For one, you need to stop grasping at straws; you pulled out a miniscule piece of my post and claimed that is what the whole thing is about. If you would care to actually read more of the posts in this topic instead of playing white knight and trying to attack me you'll notice I was combating the "bite activates the dormant virus" theories.

Secondly, I admit some of the words I used, like idiot, were inappropriate to the situation. Except lazy, I'm sticking with that one.

So how does the virus spread?

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by Tyrant

So how does the virus spread?

everybody has the zombie virus but nobody knows why everybody has it, it's probably airborne but it doesn't matter because unless kirkman says otherwise everybody is infected and if you die you turn unless brain damage caused the death or happens before you turn, dems da rules

[Tyrant]

I know how it spreads, I was asking Gudmoore to see if he'll pop another blood vessel.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by Tyrant

I know how it spreads, I was asking Gudmoore to see if he'll pop another blood vessel.

well you used my troll blind spot, if you ask for help i don't see the trolling

[Pickles312]

Think about it this way, you have a virus of sorts in your body, but it's so small that your body can keep it at bay until one of two things happen: You die, causing the virus to have no trouble controlling the body with no fight against it, or the virus get tremendously boosted by a bite putting in more of it which allows it to overpower the body immune system and turn you.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by Pickles312

Think about it this way, you have a virus of sorts in your body, but it's so small that your body can keep it at bay until one of two things happen: You die, causing the virus to have no trouble controlling the body with no fight against it, or the virus get tremendously boosted by a bite putting in more of it which allows it to overpower the body immune system and turn you.

no bites and the zombie virus are unrelated, but bites kill you and if you die you turn into a zombie unless brain damage caused the death or happens before you turn, dems da rules

[Master of Aeons]

It's a lot easier to explain when you stop saying "virus" and start thinking "magic".

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by Master of Aeons

It's a lot easier to explain when you stop saying "virus" and start thinking "magic".

the zombie magic is in everybody it is only death that releases its potential, their bites are imbued with a permanent death hex that always does critical damage and blocks healing

[Master of Aeons]

Unless healing kills them.

[TealBlue]

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

Sorry for those multiple Teal posts. The forum automoderation feature had confiscated these posts upon posting (possibly decided they were too long), so Teal probably thought they were lost and wrote them again in slightly different form. I approved these posts just some hours ago, so they all popped up right now.

There's no spamming going on here.

Sorry about the long posts, i thought i might have something, but looks like others already thought of it, and i forgot about not being bit, which sorta voided my theory. Anyway, sorry for the long posts.

[TealBlue]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

no bites and the zombie virus are unrelated, but bites kill you and if you die you turn into a zombie unless brain damage caused the death or happens before you turn, dems da rules

What Pickles said

-Teal

[Warge]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

everybody has the zombie virus but nobody knows why everybody has it, it's probably airborne but it doesn't matter because unless kirkman says otherwise everybody is infected and if you die you turn unless brain damage caused the death or happens before you turn, dems da rules

I'd say the culprit lies in the intestinal bactarias - we have up to about 1000 SPECIES of bacteria on our guts (and poo consists of about 60% bacteria, which is a pretty good indicator that you shouldn't reuse what you have eaten). Any of these are very happy to take over our body when we die and don't have an immune system to keep them in check.

So in a zombie apocalypse: a bite will kill but not turn you because of the infection (think of the infection as a very potent ebola or something). After a person dies, either from the bite infection, hanging or whatever, the intestinal virus makes jumps of joy and takes over the body via the nervous system - which is easily accessible.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by Warge

I'd say the culprit lies in the intestinal bactarias - we have up to about 1000 SPECIES of bacteria on our guts (and poo consists of about 60% bacteria, which is a pretty good indicator that you shouldn't reuse what you have eaten). Any of these are very happy to take over our body when we die and don't have an immune system to keep them in check.

So in a zombie apocalypse: a bite will kill but not turn you because of the infection (think of the infection as a very potent ebola or something). After a person dies, either from the bite infection, hanging or whatever, the intestinal virus makes jumps of joy and takes over the body via the nervous system - which is easily accessible.

i dont know if i understand what you are saying, but i think you are saying that the zombie "virus" (or whatever it would be classified as) lives in the infected's (everybody) intestines

[BlackPaladin]

I'm pretty sure kirkman didn't make his zombie virus bacteria in our crap.

[Warge]

Originally Posted by thestalkinghead

i dont know if i understand what you are saying, but i think you are saying that the zombie "virus" (or whatever it would be classified as) lives in the infected's (everybody) intestines

Pretty correct - if it is a virus, it could actually live dormant in the intestines bacterias.

[thestalkinghead]

Originally Posted by Warge

Pretty correct - if it is a virus, it could actually live dormant in the intestines bacterias.

maybe but its more likely in the brain because what if you were killed by having your lower torso removed? from what i have heard you would still turn, but we don't even know its a virus, we just call it "virus" and "the infected" because that is just easy to understand, but it could be some kind of parasite it could be nanites it could be an alien organism or an prehistoric earth based organism that had been frozen and dug up by scientists from the Antarctic or the deep seabed that is unclassifiable by normal tests it could be magic it could be anything