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Old 12/10/2012, 03:21 pm   #1
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Default How they could've made Episode 5 more emotional..

.. If I was writing the episode, what I would've done. After killing the stranger, I would've had Ed still a zombie, and meeting Diana somewhere. Lee, Clementine and Diana start talking and then Diana gets devoured somehow. Something along the lines of that. I know I don't make it sound good, but I'm sure TT could've made that good (I always wanted to see Clem's parents alive.)
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Old 12/10/2012, 03:51 pm   #2
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If Clem's parents were alive, it would drive the intention of the whole episode away. Seeing them as walkers was perfect because it still focuses on Lee, the bite, and Clem, but it adds this extra addition to make the scene more interesting.
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Old 12/10/2012, 04:10 pm   #3
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That would've seemed like a very forced sequence in my opinion and one that wouldn't have really transition well in the final scenes. Episode 5 was meant to capitalize on Lee's relationship with Clem as xXninja pointed out and having a sequence such as the one described would've detracted from that and wouldn't really have fit in well.

Clem's parents were a plot device for Clem to derive hope from to keep going on in this world. The idea that her parents might still be alive gave her hope to survive and grow stringer with Lee's guidance. Lee knew the whole time that her parents were gone, but kept it from her so she could have hope. Clem basically knew and was coming to terms with that tragic truth at the end of episode 4, hence the immense crying and gradual acceptance, but the Stranger got into her head too much and enticed her to have this false hope derived from denial in episode 5.

By the time she finally sees what truly became of them, she was horrified and saddened immensely, but she was strong enough to move on still thanks to Lee after three months of harsh circumstances. Her parents' role was really just a plot device and I can understand why many people wished something more was developed with them, but I think their role and inclusion in the plot was perfectly handled and made sense in a realistic aspect and played into a really great theme in this franchise in that hope is always needed to survive, even if it comes from an unlikely scenario.

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Old 12/10/2012, 05:21 pm   #4
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How they could've made Episode 5 more emotional..

At the very end cut scene.. Clem is standing by the tree watching the two figures walk.. they stop and turn.. gunshot! clem falls.. fade out..
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Old 12/11/2012, 06:30 am   #5
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How they could've made Episode 5 more emotional..

At the very end cut scene.. Clem is standing by the tree watching the two figures walk.. they stop and turn.. gunshot! clem falls.. fade out..
That would have been more likely disturbing than emotional. Shooting kids = Not cool.
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Old 12/11/2012, 06:59 am   #6
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That would have been more likely disturbing than emotional. Shooting kids = Not cool.
Duck is a kid, and he can be shot. Yes, he was turning, but was technically still alive at the time. Was that not disturbing? Or is it okay because he was about to die anyway?
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Old 12/11/2012, 08:03 am   #7
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Duck is a kid, and he can be shot. Yes, he was turning, but was technically still alive at the time. Was that not disturbing? Or is it okay because he was about to die anyway?
Even killing Duck was disturbing. Killing Fivel was disturbing. Its not nice to see childs die. I felt a little bad as I saw Ben die, after he fell in the alleyway. But that was just in the second playthrough. In the first I left him to die in the belltower and it felt SO good. Until Kenny messed it up.
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Old 12/11/2012, 08:18 am   #8
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Duck is a kid, and he can be shot. Yes, he was turning, but was technically still alive at the time. Was that not disturbing? Or is it okay because he was about to die anyway?
Well, Kenny and Katjaa wanted you to make sure he didn't turn, so I think that is a good deed.
But then, killing a kid that is still living is extremely inhumane.
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Old 12/11/2012, 09:23 am   #9
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That would have been more likely disturbing than emotional. Shooting kids = Not cool.
The Idea was... think way way back to the origional Night of the Living Dead.
At the end, after all they've gone through, the hero looks out the window and a hunter see's him, thinking him to be a zombie in the house, the hunter shoot's him. A little mistaken identity. It wasnt just about killing a kid, It was about a tragic ending!
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The Idea was... think way way back to the origional Night of the Living Dead.
At the end, after all they've gone through, the hero looks out the window and a hunter see's him, thinking him to be a zombie in the house, the hunter shoot's him. A little mistaken identity. It wasnt just about killing a kid, It was about a tragic ending!
Tragedy can't successfully follow tragedy. It was already depressing enough to see what Clem went through, if she got shot like that in the end so suddenly, it would have been anti-climactic and mind-boggling. It was a good ending in the original Night of the Living Dead because the irony worked there, and everything before it was horror and chaos, not drama. On top of that, at the very end, when we see the hero survives, its supposed to be a bittersweet but happy ending, which is completely crushed by a minute yet huge twist of him getting shot for no reason. In The Walking Dead... there are no happy endings in The Walking Dead.

Telltale did everything to near perfection. They materialized our affection for the characters and successfully manipulated them by constructing everything up to the final moment properly. The only thing that could have made it 100% was if, in my opinion, the final scene hit the right emotional cues at with the right timing rather than just playing the scene out. Otherwise, it was nothing less than exquisite.
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Old 12/11/2012, 11:16 am   #11
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.. If I was writing the episode, what I would've done. After killing the stranger, I would've had Ed still a zombie, and meeting Diana somewhere. Lee, Clementine and Diana start talking and then Diana gets devoured somehow. Something along the lines of that. I know I don't make it sound good, but I'm sure TT could've made that good (I always wanted to see Clem's parents alive.)
have both lee and clementine die.
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Old 12/11/2012, 06:43 pm   #12
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Why did they have to put Ed and Diana next to each other though -.-?
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Clem and Lee trapped. Lee runnimg into a crowd and ripped apart while Clem escapes until her mum is the only walker in her way. She must shoot her
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Old 12/12/2012, 06:35 am   #14
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Make episode 5 more emotional? Seriously, OP do you want to drown us in our own tears?
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Old 12/12/2012, 07:06 am   #15
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Why did they have to put Ed and Diana next to each other though -.-?
Plot Hole.
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Old 12/12/2012, 07:22 am   #16
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Clem and Lee trapped. Lee runnimg into a crowd and ripped apart while Clem escapes until her mum is the only walker in her way. She must shoot her
That would actually be quite good, if they did it well.
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what about, (for those who used the handcuffs on the guard walker and just left lee) when clem is looking across the field at the two figures, zombie lee is walking up behind her!
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Old 01/01/2013, 09:49 pm   #18
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Plot Hole.
No, zombies are drawn to familiar aspects of their previous lives...at least, if the TV show is to be believed, they are. Hence Morgan's wife returning to their house over and over. They might have just shambled along next to each other...not retaining memories, obviously.
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Old 01/01/2013, 09:51 pm   #19
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People seem to be forgetting that emotional doesn't just = sad. It just tends to get focused on because sadness is the easiest emotion to evoke.
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Old 01/01/2013, 10:28 pm   #20
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I would have cried if Clementine shot Lee and then killed herself as well or if you left Lee alive and the last thing he saw/heard was Clem's body fall to the floor and a gunshot.
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