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Old 12/10/2012, 05:13 pm   #1
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Default Why would Lily betray me like this?

I've been on her side throughout the entire season.

I sided with her dad, because I hate Kenny
I tried saving her dad in EP 2
I brought her back in the RV after killing Carley
I even thought of going with her and ditching the others and taking Clementine with me

like wtf man!
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Old 12/10/2012, 05:17 pm   #2
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I've been on her side throughout the entire season.

I sided with her dad, because I hate Kenny
I tried saving her dad in EP 2
I brought her back in the RV after killing Carley
I even thought of going with her and ditching the others and taking Clementine with me

like wtf man!
Because it still has to follow the story-line. your decision's to side with lily really make a difference towards the end when you need Kenny's help.
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Old 12/10/2012, 05:22 pm   #3
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Because it still has to follow the story-line. your decision's to side with lily really make a difference towards the end when you need Kenny's help.
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Old 12/10/2012, 05:48 pm   #4
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I was kinda disappointed in how they handled Lily's character in EP 3. At the end of EP 2 she seemed to realize that being a hard ass wasn't the best way to lead. Even seemed to be more compassionate about other people. Especially if you tried to help Larry. But it seemed that they did a 180 on her between episodes.

I know they kinda had their hands tied to how Lily ended up because she was supposed to be the Lily from the comics. I bet they would have had a better ending for her if not for that.
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Old 12/10/2012, 06:04 pm   #5
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I really liked Lilly, but Kenny all the way, he was my bro. But Lilly is a bad ass character, but I still like Kenny more.
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Old 12/10/2012, 06:11 pm   #6
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I was kinda disappointed in how they handled Lily's character in EP 3. At the end of EP 2 she seemed to realize that being a hard ass wasn't the best way to lead. Even seemed to be more compassionate about other people. Especially if you tried to help Larry. But it seemed that they did a 180 on her between episodes.

I know they kinda had their hands tied to how Lily ended up because she was supposed to be the Lily from the comics. I bet they would have had a better ending for her if not for that.
I don't know about you but Lilly was really nice to me in episode three and was compassionate. Also, it really shouldn't come to surprise that Lilly was so high strung considering what happened to her father.

As to her leaving, it was probably the right thing to do. The only person who still trusted / liked her in the group was Lee, depending on your choices, even Katjaa didn't trust her anymore. It's as she said (or something along these lines):

"What am I suppose to do, wait here until you guys figure out what to do with me?"
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Old 12/10/2012, 06:17 pm   #7
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I know how you feel. I was entirely on Kenny's side before episode 2. I helped Lilly in the meat locker. In episode 3, I cared less about where Kenny's family was going; I wanted to stay with Lilly. As soon as she murdered Carley though, I left her on the road. And I continued my friendship with Kenny once again!
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Old 12/11/2012, 06:34 am   #8
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I wish there was more game-changing decisions. Maybe not this particularly, since the game follows the comic storyline, yeah?
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Old 12/11/2012, 07:38 am   #9
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Doomed by canon. Needed to get her out of the group somehow.
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Old 12/12/2012, 08:21 am   #10
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I've been on her side throughout the entire season.

I sided with her dad, because I hate Kenny
I tried saving her dad in EP 2
I brought her back in the RV after killing Carley
I even thought of going with her and ditching the others and taking Clementine with me

like wtf man!
My opinion is that she realizes she has become unhinged and may be a danger to everybody. Then it kinda depends on your choice. If you tell her to go, well you give her your permission. If you tell her to stop, I guess she doesn't want you to make a choice concerning her fate. It is not an easy thing to do and if you were thinking of something bad, I guess she would kinda prefer to avoid that. Plus she's not the type of person who would let others decide her fate.
If you tell her you will go with her, my explanation is that she realizes she has become a danger to everyone and you would be better off without her.
If you dislike her or you've been bad to her, well it is pretty self-explanatory why she would leave.
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Old 12/14/2012, 11:13 am   #11
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I've been on her side throughout the entire season.

I sided with her dad, because I hate Kenny
I tried saving her dad in EP 2
I brought her back in the RV after killing Carley
I even thought of going with her and ditching the others and taking Clementine with me

like wtf man!
Lily loses control of the group as soon as a better leader (Kenny) shows up. She was fighting a losing battle with Kenny over power for months. Kenny won, so she left.

Lily didn't care about survival so much as she cared about order. It's why Kenny (the personification of chaos) is her foil. When the hierarchy of power in the Macon group dissolved, Lily lost it.

Also, her father's death made her excessively paranoid. Basically, poor Lily couldn't handle the stress.
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Old 12/14/2012, 02:20 pm   #12
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I sometimes like to think how EP4 & 5 would have played out if she was still around. I think her and Christa probably wouldn't get along, she'd think Omid is dumb, Vernon she would not trust right away, and I think her and Molly would probably get along. No way she would not go with Lee to save Clem, unlike with Kenny hating Lee and not going, I'm almost certain even if she hated Lee she would go just for Clementine.
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Old 12/14/2012, 03:11 pm   #13
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Doomed by canon. Needed to get her out of the group somehow.
And then Canon kicked her to the curb, poor poor Lilly..... so screwed over.
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Old 12/14/2012, 10:55 pm   #14
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And then Canon kicked her to the curb, poor poor Lilly..... so screwed over.
Canon = Woodbury LMAO
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Old 12/15/2012, 03:47 pm   #15
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My opinion is that she realizes she has become unhinged and may be a danger to everybody.
Only if she would've realized that before she cold-heartedly MURDERED AN INNOCENT GIRL who also is the love interest of (depending on how you play the game) her best and most trusted ally.

I'd make the bold assumption that she was a bit jealous of Carley. While she was mostly all alone after that her father got killed she saw that her "best friend" and that bitch who didn't recognize her as their leader at the drug store got along good and enjoyed eachothers company. Lilly obviously disliked Carley a whole lot. Lilly obviously depended on Lee and his understanding. She didn't want Carley and Lee to be together because she thought that maybe Carley will make Lee turn on her or something of that nature. Lilly didn't want them to be together. She went mental and clearly wasn't making sound decisions. She didn't think about neither the group nor Lee. She cared only about herself and her own situation. Then scared of what the others might do to her she fled in the RV.



... and died in a horrible unlucky wreck when she was hit by a freighter locomotive crossing the railroad tracks a few miles the other way. It was Kenny. Kenny killed her. "The bump? Nah, it was just unevenness in the tracks", he said. No. He was driving under the influence. and I'll stop now because this is stupid.
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Old 12/15/2012, 03:50 pm   #16
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Old 12/16/2012, 08:19 am   #17
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Not everyone's Lee was in love with Carley. Mine wasn't. Plus a lot of players saved Doug so no I don't think that's the reason.
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Old 12/16/2012, 08:25 am   #18
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My personal playthrough, I was so pissed when she killed Carley that I left Lily's ass on the side of the road... It was purely reactional, all rage, and then Clem looked at me like I'd just kicked a puppy...
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Old 12/16/2012, 09:18 am   #19
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Not everyone's Lee was in love with Carley. Mine wasn't. Plus a lot of players saved Doug so no I don't think that's the reason.
That's true but you pretty much become really good friends with her no matter what in this storyline. Plus, Lilly doesn't know how you really feel
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Old 12/16/2012, 09:38 am   #20
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Even if your Lee was good to Lilly, she steals the RV regardless. She knows Lee was close to Carley/Doug, and Lee had just told her to get in until they could figure out "what to do" with her, so I think she could be afraid of Lee at that point (also considering his past, she considered him a murderer). I think the stolen supplies situation and subsequent bandit assault made her feel like she could no longer trust anyone but herself.
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