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Old 12/25/2012, 09:14 pm   #1
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Everyone is saying that it's ridiculous because Lee was out in the car for days.

But actually, he wasn't.

Lee's eyes flicker open twice. The first time they open, you can hear the cop screaming and zombies feeding. The second time they open, which everyone is saying is hours later, you can actually still hear the cop yelling for help and flesh tearing. I don't think it takes days for a guy to die when being devoured by walkers.
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Old 12/25/2012, 09:29 pm   #2
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I'm really not sure how long Lee was out either, it didn't feel like days when I played it. But if you look at what a mess Clem's neighborhood is it looks like way more than a few hours since a zombie outbreak.
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Old 12/25/2012, 09:55 pm   #3
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It's amazing how people think this. But really, I always like to think of it as the police car crashed in the morning, and Lee woke up in the afternoon.
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Old 12/25/2012, 10:06 pm   #4
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Clone thread!

That said, there were no walkers around said dead cop. Chances are good he was down for a while. No way to know for certain, but Clem mentioning that the sitter was down for a couple days is a pretty good measure.
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That said, there were no walkers around said dead cop. Chances are good he was down for a while. No way to know for certain, but Clem mentioning that the sitter was down for a couple days is a pretty good measure.
Whoops, I didn't see the other thread, sorry!
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Old 12/25/2012, 10:56 pm   #6
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No biggie, it's probably a year before we'll get season 2 (pure speculation of course) so what else are we gonna talk about?
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Old 12/26/2012, 02:56 am   #7
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he was passed out for mere minutes to max a few hours, was discussed before.
certainly not days.
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Old 12/26/2012, 08:48 am   #8
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Lee was out for two days.

We know this because Clem survived on her own for two days before Lee stumbled upon her house, and zombies had had not overrun the city before Lee was being transported to the prison.

The cop transporting Lee has no reaction to the police cars and helicopters speeding in the other direction, the radio chatter in the police car is confusing zombie attacks for disturbances and the like, and the transporting officer doesn't have a care in the world. He even shuts the radio off at one point because it was interrupting his conversation. He was obviously oblivious to what was going on.

The outbreak occurs while Lee is being transported, not before.
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Old 12/26/2012, 02:03 pm   #9
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Lee was out for two days.

We know this because Clem survived on her own for two days before Lee stumbled upon her house, and zombies had had not overrun the city before Lee was being transported to the prison.

The cop transporting Lee has no reaction to the police cars and helicopters speeding in the other direction, the radio chatter in the police car is confusing zombie attacks for disturbances and the like, and the transporting officer doesn't have a care in the world. He even shuts the radio off at one point because it was interrupting his conversation. He was obviously oblivious to what was going on.

The outbreak occurs while Lee is being transported, not before.
I've seen more than a few theories claiming otherwise. These theories speculate that, in other zombie related films/comics/books etc. (they named a movie where this happened but I can't for the life of me remember which film it was) the main character didn't encounter the undead until several days after the beginning of the outbreak. Please explain how the cop was being ripped apart and screaming for two days, then, without dying. Shaun certainly didn't take too long.

Then again, these ARE of course, just theories, not facts, so you may well be right.
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Lee was out in the car for days.
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I've seen more than a few theories claiming otherwise. These theories speculate that, in other zombie related films/comics/books etc. (they named a movie where this happened but I can't for the life of me remember which film it was) the main character didn't encounter the undead until several days after the beginning of the outbreak. Please explain how the cop was being ripped apart and screaming for two days, then, without dying. Shaun certainly didn't take too long.

Then again, these ARE of course, just theories, not facts, so you may well be right.
the cop dies just after the crash and went into sleep mode, lee saw some of that then was unconscious for at least a day (he was super thirsty) then he wakes up properly
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he was passed out for mere minutes to max a few hours, was discussed before.
certainly not days.
No.
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Lee wasen't uncounscious for days.Perhaps for a few minutes,how much the officer needed to reanimate,and when Lee aproaches him,the reanimation process just finished.
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I've seen more than a few theories claiming otherwise. These theories speculate that, in other zombie related films/comics/books etc. (they named a movie where this happened but I can't for the life of me remember which film it was) the main character didn't encounter the undead until several days after the beginning of the outbreak. Please explain how the cop was being ripped apart and screaming for two days, then, without dying. Shaun certainly didn't take too long.

Then again, these ARE of course, just theories, not facts, so you may well be right.
I think it is unlikely that the zombie apocalypse was in full swing while Lee was being transported, because the transporting officer had a 'another day at the office' attitude. He was completely unconcerned about the radio chatter or the emergency vehicles headed in the other direction. Also the radio traffic was describing attacks as if they were just disturbances or assaults by deranged people. No one yet had any idea of what they were dealing with.

Also when Lee later accesses the answering machine in Clem's house, in the first message Clem's mother says her husband was attacked by someone who was mentally ill, and is in the hospital. Clem's mother did not yet know what they were dealing with either.

Taking all of that into account, it seems more likely that the zombie apocalypse was just beginning while Lee was being transported. People still had no idea of what they were dealing with, and a state of emergency had not yet been declared. Hence, the officer transporting Lee not suspecting that anything was out of the usual.

When Lee awakes however, civilization has practically collapsed. That suggests to me that he was probably out for the two days that Clem was alone.

As for Lee waking up to the cop's screams, that was likely not long after the crash and not days later. He also slips back into unconciousness shortly afterwards.

I just finished reading The Road to Woodbury, and it actually covers why the transporting officer may not have turned immediately. In the book it was mentioned that the time it takes for a person to turn is seemingly random, or at least not undersood by the survivors. Some turn immediately, and others could take hours or days. With that in mind, that officer may have been lying their dead for two days before springing back into action.
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When Lee was in the cop car the out break was just starting. After he woke up whole neighborhoods were abandoned. And Shaun said the city was as bad as the neighborhood Clem was in. The city wasn't bad when Lee and the cop left. I think it would take a little longer than a few hours for it to get like that.
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Old 12/27/2012, 03:05 pm   #16
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IT WAS 2 DAYS!

"I heard her scream two nights ago."

Geeze come on people!
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It could have only been 24 hours, also.

Timeline:
- 2 nights ago: All hell breaks loose, people start rising, babysitter gets killed
- Day: Lee and the Cop are heading out of Atlanta (reports of "incidents")/Car crash
- 1 night ago: Lee sleeps it off in the car after the cop dies outside, walkers wander off.
- Day 2: Lee wakes up - I think you know what happens from here......
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Old 12/27/2012, 07:55 pm   #18
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This makes sense to me....

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It's amazing how people think this. But really, I always like to think of it as the police car crashed in the morning, and Lee woke up in the afternoon.
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Old 12/28/2012, 04:43 am   #19
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IT WAS 2 DAYS!

"I heard her scream two nights ago."

Geeze come on people!
Exactly! Why are people so stupid? If Clementine says "I heard a scream two nights ago". I think that means the apocalypse started two days ago! Meaning Lee was unconscious for 2 days!
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Exactly! Why are people so stupid? If Clementine says "I heard a scream two nights ago". I think that means the apocalypse started two days ago! Meaning Lee was unconscious for 2 days!
Don't call anyone stupid, please. We are talking about this in a civilized manner, thank you.

We are not talking about when the apocalypse started. We know it started two days before. We are talking about how long Lee was out.

Please be sensible and polite while contributing to the thread.
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