Molly was the one character where Telltale stumbled

[Wrighty]

I agree, she seemed really out of place in the otherwise realistic and dark world. Her parlour and stealth skills were unrealistic. Even if you were a parkour master, would you really risk a broken ankle from a fall just to save time? I would much prefer a character who had some actual weaknesses, instead of action girl.

[watertommyz]

Originally Posted by double_u

One part I never found believable was when kenny and lee went to ambush molly at the new stand. We had her in our line of sight during the approach, but by the time lee got up there, she vanished and was behind lee. Parkour or not it seems a bit far fetched.

It's very believable. You need to take some art classes, and and study perception. It's easy for her to have just walked around in the time Lee looked down, front and center.

The italicized words are a hint.

[TheMountainKing]

Originally Posted by watertommyz

It's very believable. You need to take some art classes, and and study perception. It's easy for her to have just walked around in the time Lee looked down, front and center.

The italicized words are a hint.

Do you mean perspective?

[Viner16]

Too bad we never saw if she's dead or not after the horde.

Perhaps a season 2 cameo?

[thesuperzapper]

In an interview on of the developers said she was meant to bring hope to the player. i.e. Everything starts going right when she appears, e.e. finding the boat and so forth; and when she leaves, Clem gets kidnapped and lee gets bit.

[Scaeva]

Originally Posted by Demopan

If you were rehearsing it, it would be in a particular location in a specific sequence. Not wherever you please. Learn your words and stop making forum accounts just to agree with you.

I'm glad someone understood what I meant by 'rehearsed.'

Originally Posted by double_u

One part I never found believable was when kenny and lee went to ambush molly at the new stand. We had her in our line of sight during the approach, but by the time lee got up there, she vanished and was behind lee. Parkour or not it seems a bit far fetched.

That was probably Molly's most over-the-top scene. She was cornered in a newstand from which she had no where to go without either Lee or Kenny observing her movements. Yet she somehow vanishes and reappears behind Lee.

[Enigmatic Wonder]

Since no one has brought it up yet and quite a few people seem to think what Molly does is unrealistic:

Parkour and freerunning in general:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX7QNWEGcNI
Mostly simple moves in this one but it has it's moments.

John Morrison (former WWE star):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR4iiunIZGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1-JaBBI2vc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x3K9NkUlEs
First two vids are Morrison training/practicing. Third video is him actually using basic parkour as well as capoeira in his matches.

Casino Royale parkour chase:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJubOZLpp4A
Here's the opening chase scene from Casino Royale. The stuntman/actor that Bond is chasing is one of the actual creators of the sport and does a good job at showing off a few pretty risky moves during this chase.

Honestly if anything I'd say Molly was LESS over the top compared to typical parkour stunts. Granted I'll give you guys the scene when we first meet her where she seemingly disappears and gets the drop on Lee. Everything else however that involved parkour and her climbing axe could be done if you had the training, strength and reflexes for it.

[Scaeva]

Like gymnastics, parkour is rehearsed.

If you took a parkour athlete into an unfamiliar urban enviroment, and told them 'go,' the chances of them getting injured are rather high.

[watertommyz]

Originally Posted by Scaeva

Like gymnastics, parkour is rehearsed.

If you took a parkour athlete into an unfamiliar urban enviroment, and told them 'go,' the chances of them getting injured are rather high.

We discussed this on the previous page, and again, rehearsed is just another word for practice.

Originally Posted by TheMountainKing

Do you mean perspective?

Of course.

[Scaeva]

Originally Posted by watertommyz

We discussed this on the previous page, and again, rehearsed is just another word for practice.

Parkour is rehearsed in a static location.

A person who is into parkour couldn't just drop blind into any location and run through a routine without running a great risk of injury.

There is a reason why parkour has only gotten limited attention from militaries. The practicable applications of parkour beyong physical fitness, are just as limited.

[Rock114]

Well, Molly's had three and a half months to learn her way around the rooftops of Savannah. She even says that she's pretty much stuck in the city, so she really doesn't have anything else to do. Sides, I thought the parkour was kinda neat. The one thing I don't like is how she goes to take on the entire horde that Ben lets into Crawford. Sure she gets royally fucked, and gets left behind if Clem isn't there and Lee sucks at shooting, but she took on those initial walkers like it was zero problem.

[watertommyz]

Originally Posted by Scaeva

Parkour is rehearsed in a static location.

A person who is into parkour couldn't just drop blind into any location and run through a routine without running a great risk of injury.

There is a reason why parkour has only gotten limited attention from militaries. The practicable applications of parkour beyong physical fitness, are just as limited.

Look, I didn't say anything about Parkour itself. I didn't even know what it was until this thread, but my point is practice makes perfect, and that it isn't beyond the realm of possibility for one character to actually be more active than the others. As for military, with my point of practice, you still have to go through the motions with a firearm, practical or not. If you can imagine, try relating it some are going to be good shots with the gun, but others are going to severely risk missing their targets...it's the same concept no matter how you look at it. Everything is a rehearsal when it comes to practice.

You guys believe what you want, but Molly isn't outside the realm of Lee surviving a car crash, zombie horde by himself with only a knife and broken glass, or when Lee and Omid jump from a bridge to a moving train, or when Lee himself jumps from building-to-building, and the ladder bit with one arm.

In fact that makes Molly seem like the amateur.

Originally Posted by Rock114

Well, Molly's had three and a half months to learn her way around the rooftops of Savannah. She even says that she's pretty much stuck in the city, so she really doesn't have anything else to do. Sides, I thought the parkour was kinda neat. The one thing I don't like is how she goes to take on the entire horde that Ben lets into Crawford. Sure she gets royally fucked, and gets left behind if Clem isn't there and Lee sucks at shooting, but she took on those initial walkers like it was zero problem.

The reason why it might not be a big deal for her is that she might be a bit suicidal, which goes back to her bleak words, "In the end, the dead always win." Which I do believe I pointed out somewhere. Also good job on pointing out that she does indeed know the area, and considering how she talked, yes, she very much did.

[AnekiGX]

Originally Posted by double_u

One part I never found believable was when kenny and lee went to ambush molly at the new stand. We had her in our line of sight during the approach, but by the time lee got up there, she vanished and was behind lee. Parkour or not it seems a bit far fetched.

I see this scene quoted a lot, but I have a very different view because the "disappearing act" was entirely possible and can be done by anyone in this forum had we been in Molly's position.

Did everyone forget the newsstand had an OPEN ENTRANCE??? It's really simple:

1) Molly sensed someone creeping up from behind, she goes down.

2) Lee crept up to the newsstand and stopped at the front.

3) Contrary to what's believed, Molly didn't go POOF! and appear right behind Lee. She crawled out from where she got in and while Lee was peeping into the newsstand, she crept from his right and to behind him.

Lee did not see her because he was up and trying to peek into the newsstand and because she's dead silent. What's so difficult to understand how this was done?

The only question that should be asked but wasn't is why and how Kenny missed out all these and did not come out even after Lee was knocked down flat and was nearly going to have his brains ice-picked.

[kevinStark]

Molly was a great character. She gives the player information about Crawford and introduced it before Molly you had no idea, And the story feels right about why see left. She needed to be a smart and strong character! Otherwise se didn’t make it out alive alone. Without Molly the episode didn’t make sense. So I know the reason why she made an appearance inside the Walking Dead!

[RustyRifle11]

The way I looked at it Molly is kinna like Michonne from the graphic novels. She just pure badassery! But she isnt as loyal to Lee as Michonne is to Rick. But she was a different type of character than the others. While the other characters have more limitations, she rose above them in that sense, but at the end o the day she is human and she cannot take on 10 walkers by herself, so she still needed the group, but does better as lone wolf as well.

[kevinStark]

[RustyRifle11]

^pic above^ I would really enjoy that scenario if those two were to link up in the next one!

I u look at it and think about it only reason Molly saved Kenny and Lee was b/c of lil' Clem

[ToSch]

Originally Posted by kevinStark

I support that!

[kevinStark]

When Molly leaves, She tells Lee to take care of clam. She leaves because she don’t want to take away an space on the boat, Because she can take care for herself without the boat so she leaves. (If you / clam shoot the zombies of her back inside Crawford) Will she comes back for clam when she knows Lee’s dead / the boat idea is of? TOTALLY!!!!

[Kaserkin]

Originally Posted by kevinStark

No. Just no. I really don't like Molly. She may be cool and all, but I don't really like her. She is out of place in the story because all the survivors have believable traits and flaws, while she's just a badass zombie-killing chick.