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View Poll Results: So what will you choose?
Catch the ampoule with the vaccine 61 46.21%
Save Clementine 71 53.79%
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Old 01/18/2013, 04:30 pm   #21
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fuck mankind, clementine ftw.
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Old 01/18/2013, 04:53 pm   #22
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I have a oath to our queen for the queen!!!!!!!
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Old 01/18/2013, 04:58 pm   #23
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Between Clementine and the vaccine? I'd have to say the vaccine... can go to hell. Seriously. It's worthless. It's certainly not worth the life of probably the coolest child ever.

Why is it worthless? Because it doesn't save anyone from anything they can't already prevent. It cures the zombie infection... So? The infection itself isn't fatal. Heck, it doesn't even do anything to hinder you. It simply kick-starts your corpse after you die. The vaccine doesn't do anything to stop that death. It doesn't suddenly end the zombies that are out there, so you still need to worry about being eaten. You just wouldn't have to destroy the brain after a death.

When all is said and done, the adaptability of humans would make the barbaric act (by current standards) of bashing, stabbing, shooting, whatever you do to destroy a brain not such a hard thing to accept in time. After years of dealing with this new rule of death, people would get used to it and accept it. If I know people, it may actually become a ritual, or tradition (like asking the father if he wants to cut the umbilical cord after a child is born) if humanity can survive that long. It would be little more than the new first step in the funeral process.

There's your vaccine right there. No expensive equipment. No complex formulas. No nonsense. Period. Destroy the brain, no zombie. Same thing.
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Old 01/18/2013, 05:09 pm   #24
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Family may be important than any single other thing in the world...but is it more important than the ENTIRE world? Just think of all the people that will never exist because there is no vaccine... all the lives that could have been...
What is Lee supposed to do with a vaccine? small tube of A vaccine is worthless. It might be enough to save two or three people, but then in will run out. And without a Secret Military lab there is no way to replicate and create more of the vaccine.

By saving that vial of vaccine and killing Clem, you are saving maybe what will amount to 3 or 4 babies that have a less likely chance of surviving in this world than Clem.
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Old 01/18/2013, 05:19 pm   #25
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If the vaccine is made once it can be made again, there is only one Clementine.
I agree on that, which is why my choice would be to save Clementine.
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Old 01/18/2013, 06:03 pm   #26
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So you got a vaccine in our equipment, this vaccine can help newborn children to be be uninfected forever (only newborns)
Hmmm... if it's only a vaccine for newborns, yeah it will prevent them from turning, but there will still be millions of walkers crawling around in every corner, and they are not safe anyhow. Food is scarce and they need a lot of things to survive their first few months. So I choose Clementine.
But if there is actual cure(which I highly doubt will happen in TWD universe) for the infected people, then I don't know anymore xD
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Old 01/19/2013, 12:14 am   #27
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Please don't forget about this fact that girl-pilot are pregnant from main character and if they survive then after nine mounth baby will born. Main character (let's call him Steve for example) are twenty eight years old male. Steve and Clem together one year. He loves her as a doughter, but Clem still remember Lee, she loves Steve almost as much as she loved Lee.

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Old 01/19/2013, 02:02 am   #28
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No, this is a unique vaccine, it was done in the laboratory at this military base. Make a copy of the vaccines can be only in the laboratory with expensive equipment in another military base (secret military lab's)
But it's not impossible to recreate, if someone made it once than it can be done again. It may take a long time or be very unlikely but it's still a possibility!

A dead Clementine has no possibility of coming back...
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Old 01/19/2013, 02:11 am   #29
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There are some selfish ass people on this board. Without that cure Clem will probably die anyway.
Would you sacrifice a loved one to save the rest of humanity? I couldn't do that. Maybe I am selfish but in my eyes my loved ones are more important than anyone else.
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Old 01/19/2013, 02:25 am   #30
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I would save Clementine without any heistation. You can learn to live with the infection and the Walkers.
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Old 01/19/2013, 09:29 am   #31
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Crap, this one is hard. Mankind. It'll help Clementine and it's faster than killing all the zombies in the world.
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Old 01/19/2013, 09:40 am   #32
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We shouldn't underestimate the vacine. In the walking dead universe mankind will go extinct, because the ZA can never end. Eventually they'll be nobody left. Saving the vaccine puts a cap on the number of walkers.
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Old 01/19/2013, 10:11 am   #33
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We shouldn't underestimate the vacine. In the walking dead universe mankind will go extinct, because the ZA can never end. Eventually they'll be nobody left. Saving the vaccine puts a cap on the number of walkers.
Thats dumb. The humanity will learn to assure that they are not put in danger, for example putting dead people with a nail through their head to their ultimate rest, burning the corpses immediatley. We don't know if deadborn babies are a problem, but even if, then is a pregnancy just a higher risk, but nothing unmanageable. The walkind dead zombie apokalypse is easy to overcome, as long as you learn fast enough how. I guess humanity will manage.
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Would you sacrifice a loved one to save the rest of humanity? I couldn't do that. Maybe I am selfish but in my eyes my loved ones are more important than anyone else.
Without the cure you'll lose more loved ones anyway, including the one you saved.
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I would save Clementine without any heistation. You can learn to live with the infection and the Walkers.
This is just stupid. You know that's not true.
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This is just stupid. You know that's not true.
Wrong. I know its true.
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Old 01/19/2013, 10:43 am   #37
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Mankind could continue and just deal with the zombie problem and start a new. In time there would be enough survivors and scientists in a bunch to make the vaccine again, so I would save clem. It probably wouldnt even take that long because all of mankinds knowlege is out there on hard discs.
If you let clem die then you let the exact thing youre trying to save go to waste.
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Without the cure you'll lose more loved ones anyway, including the one you saved.
How would the vaccine make that any different? All it does is prevent someone from becoming a zombie, which is just as easily accomplished with a hammer. It doesn't eliminate all the existing ones (which greatly outnumber the living). It doesn't prevent bites from killing. So how would a pocket-sized vial of a vaccine that only stops you from becoming a zombie after death be able to save anyone?

How would word of the vaccine get out?

How many doses are there?

How would every woman who is pregnant be able to get a hold of it?

This vaccine just wouldn't fix anything. However, Clementine alone could probably prevent more zombies than a tiny vial could.
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How would the vaccine make that any different? All it does is prevent someone from becoming a zombie, which is just as easily accomplished with a hammer. It doesn't eliminate all the existing ones (which greatly outnumber the living). It doesn't prevent bites from killing. So how would a pocket-sized vial of a vaccine that only stops you from becoming a zombie after death be able to save anyone?

How would word of the vaccine get out?

How many doses are there?

How would every woman who is pregnant be able to get a hold of it?

This vaccine just wouldn't fix anything. However, Clementine alone could probably prevent more zombies than a tiny vial could.
There are only one ampule vaccine, but it can be copied if there is the necessary equipment. If pregnant woman will injecting vaccine to her stomach at five's month of pregnancy, then her child will be uninfected forever, if he dies he will not turn, but bite is still deadly.
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Old 01/19/2013, 11:27 am   #40
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like I said, as long as i can do anything, Clem won't die, no matter what,
zev_zev, you asked us this question but did not say what you would do, what would you do? (just curious)
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