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Old 01/30/2013, 11:18 am   #21
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Not all people give a shit about the shit of another people. And it don’t matter maybe your wife cheated on you, Maybe your dad’s a creak addict and don’t care about you. And I don’t care about beer… I sport a lot with my friends. So I hope you see your life isn’t the same for other people! (ColtPeacemaker00) Think about it.!
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i just don't get it i guess, i don't understand how playing an interactive story so affects someone that they will actuaiiy carry the experience with them forever [...] i will never understand why some here treat this story or the characters in it as something profound, an awe inspiring story that touched them in a way they will remember forever.
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Not all people give a shit about the shit of another people. And it don’t matter maybe your wife cheated on you, Maybe your dad’s a creak addict and don’t care about you. And I don’t care about beer… I sport a lot with my friends. So I hope you see your life isn’t the same for other people! (ColtPeacemaker00) Think about it.!
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what the hell are you talking about
You only think about your situation, It’s not the same for other people on this world. Not all people
Gives a care about the same thing you only care about..!

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look, i never meant to offend anyone and godforbid i actually critique this game, Advanced asked for a solution so his entire free time wasn't spent on thinking about or feeling sad about this game days after he finished it, i offered him one, go out and live your life the real-life experiences you gain will take place over the experience of playing a game and it will be those he will think on and remember. its gotten so bad around here that you can't say anything viewed as un-praiseworthy about this story and not offend someone. i like this story....really, but it is just a story. no offence.
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I don’t going to remember it my whole life, But games can influence your toughs and cares for other people. But sure you don’t going to remember it like things in real life.

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really? no one cares about any of the examples i listed? family, friends, a real life opposed to a fake one? i don't know how old you are kevin but i'm sure you've had some real life experiences that you remember fondly, friends, family, loves, things that happened that are no interest to others but resonate in a big way to you? all i'm saying is those are the experiences that matter and the ones we will remember and carry with us, if with you that includes the characters and events in a video game, fine, so be it. advanced asked for a solution to a growing obsession i offered one, thats all. of course i mentioned the things that are important to me thats my life the things i experienced but everyone has them, whether they are similar to mine or not. i really mean no offence and hope you take none.
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i just don't get it i guess, i don't understand how playing an interactive story so affects someone that they will actuaiiy carry the experience with them forever, experiences like that for me are the births of my children, my marriage, the death of my father, the lives and sometimes the deaths of close friends, none of which i relate to the events of this story. real things that touch you in a profound way that you never forget, this is what matters. i don't need to relate these things to a fictioal taie to enjoy the tale, the events in this story were entertaining but i gain nothing substantial or spiritual from them, and certainly nothing i will carry forever. i reinterate, Advanced you want to not let your thoughts be dominated by a interactive game, something that in the grand scheme of your life means nothing. hug your wife/girlfriend, and kids, if you have them, spend the day with family, go out with your friends, have a beer with buddies, all these are things that matter and will reward your life far greater than anything you will get from this story. you don't have to stop playing games you just need to prioritize and realize what really matters. i will never understand why some here treat this story or the characters in it as something profound, an awe inspiring story that touched them in a way they will remember forever. for godsakes, if you really feel that way you have alot of surprises ahead you.
A. I'm 20 years old. No kids, not married, not rushing into a new relationship (Last one lasted me 3 years) so all those things to "Distract" me are out the window. Our life is different.

B. Considering my age, I'm going to school and moving my life forward atm. There is nothing wrong with the fact that this game effected me the way it did. I hang out with my friends, I do physical activities (Play basketball, go to manhattan and hang out with friends, etc) I study and am in communication. That isn't the problem lol.

In my 20 years of living, I have shed a couple of tears for 2 movies/0 Games. That was about it. Never thought about a game/movie or character for as long as I have with TWD. It's not exactly a problem with me or how I'm living my life.

For whatever reason, this game effected me more then I ever imagined a form of entertainment/art could. When I play my games, I like to live in that world and always play the role of the character, this game just did it on a scale I've never seen before. It could very easily be logical to think this game can effect people the way it did if you play it a certain way with a certain mindset.

Anyway, the game hasn't "Destroyed" my life or anything like that. I just think about it more then I should, and considering how sad the events are, it obviously wont make anyone happy thinking about it. It's actually been much better today then the other 3 days lol, so I'm getting there, but theres no need to attack me, anyone else or write the typical response of "Get a life" like you did in your first post.

The thing that separates me from you, is that you obviously have a lot of things you need to do and seem to have a busy life from the few posts you made (Along with many responsibilities to keep you busy). Thus not leaving as much free time as I have.

I'm a 20 year old adult who's going to school and besides a couple of tests I need to study for have a load of free time on my hands, I have a very small amount of responsibilities at the moment and nothing to do much of the day. My main way of using this free time would be in the form of gaming (Because my friends aren't always free to hang out, and I enjoy this hobby tremendously) so the fact this game is always on my mind is completely normal.

Edit: Also I run a gaming clan (Been running it for 2 years now) with a lot of older people (Ranging from 23 all the way to 60 year olds) and I know it isn't just me or my age. Games can effect anyone at any different way.

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really? no one cares about any of the examples i listed? family, friends, a real life opposed to a fake one? i don't know how old you are kevin but i'm sure you've had some real life experiences that you remember fondly, friends, family, loves, things that happened that are no interest to others but resonate in a big way to you? all i'm saying is those are the experiences that matter and the ones we will remember and carry with us, if with you that includes the characters and events in a video game, fine, so be it. advanced asked for a solution to a growing obsession i offered one, thats all. of course i mentioned the things that are important to me thats my life the things i experienced but everyone has them, whether they are similar to mine or not. i really mean no offence and hope you take none.
Seriously, you really think that's what this comes down to? That all these people who were emotionally affected by a story of fictional characters is because they have no one in real life to care about? Because you may not be trying to be offense, but it sounds pretty offense to me.

To just make a blanket statement about how everyone who feels a certain way about a story is only feeling that way because they've lived a life devoid of meaningful experiences. To suggest to someone that to become emotionally invested in a tale is because they haven't actually lived a real life. Yes, that does come off as offensive.

People have been influenced and inspired by fiction through out human history and fiction affects them because it makes them think about their life and their choices and the people they love and care about. It's the very function of mythology, to shape and influence and challenge a person's way of thinking and it's still done to this very day. Often in ways people don't even realize.

Everything from children's cartoons trying to teach them to do the right thing, to action films inspiring people to be daring, to science fiction giving future generations something to strive to achieve, to romances that send some people looking for their own match made in heaven, to a story driven video game about zombies killing characters people like.

A nine year boy named Jerry Parr was once inspired by a forgettable B-Movie called ""Code of the Secret Service". Just one of many silly make believe Hollywood cop films, and it affected this boy so much he actually grew up to become a Secret Service agent, the same one who pushed Ronald Reagan into his limousine during an assassination attempt. The very same president whose decision to push for nuclear disarmament was heavily influenced by an 80's film called "The Day After". A film that was created by a producer who was inspired by a 70's film called "The China Syndrome".

Stories affect people lives because they can also reflect aspects of people's own lives. And fiction can reflect reality because it's created from real people's own life experiences and aspirations.

If you're saying The Walking Dead game didn't have an effect on you, that's perfectly fine. This story didn't affect you in a meaningful way, just like plenty of people who've tried it. But if you're saying a story having a lasting effect on someone else means there's something wrong with that person, than yeah, I might take offense to that. And if you're saying stories have no purpose in influencing people, well, then it sounds like you might be missing a significant life experience yourself.
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A. I'm 20 years old. No kids, not married, not rushing into a new relationship (Last one lasted me 3 years) so all those things to "Distract" me are out the window. Our life is different.

B. Considering my age, I'm going to school and moving my life forward atm. There is nothing wrong with the fact that this game effected me the way it did. I hang out with my friends, I do physical activities (Play basketball, go to manhattan and hang out with friends, etc) I study and am in communication. That isn't the problem lol.

In my 20 years of living, I have shed a couple of tears for 2 movies/0 Games. That was about it. Never thought about a game/movie or character for as long as I have with TWD. It's not exactly a problem with me or how I'm living my life.

For whatever reason, this game effected me more then I ever imagined a form of entertainment/art could. When I play my games, I like to live in that world and always play the role of the character, this game just did it on a scale I've never seen before. It could very easily be logical to think this game can effect people the way it did if you play it a certain way with a certain mindset.

Anyway, the game hasn't "Destroyed" my life or anything like that. I just think about it more then I should, and considering how sad the events are, it obviously wont make anyone happy thinking about it. It's actually been much better today then the other 3 days lol, so I'm getting there, but theres no need to attack me, anyone else or write the typical response of "Get a life" like you did in your first post.

The thing that separates me from you, is that you obviously have a lot of things you need to do and seem to have a busy life from the few posts you made (Along with many responsibilities to keep you busy). Thus not leaving as much free time as I have.

I'm a 20 year old adult who's going to school and besides a couple of tests I need to study for have a load of free time on my hands, I have a very small amount of responsibilities at the moment and nothing to do much of the day. My main way of using this free time would be in the form of gaming (Because my friends aren't always free to hang out, and I enjoy this hobby tremendously) so the fact this game is always on my mind is completely normal.

Edit: Also I run a gaming clan (Been running it for 2 years now) with a lot of older people (Ranging from 23 all the way to 60 year olds) and I know it isn't just me or my age. Games can effect anyone at any different way.
yes our lives are different in ways, but not so different in others. and its true that you are much more into gaming than i am whether for a lack of time or desire, on my part. to spend so much on it. i love playing basketball, softball, flag football with my buds, or just, collecting the wives and heading down to the local sportsbar to watch a game and have fun. to me games like these are a pasttime for when i do have an hour or so with nothing to do. so maybe your right about how hard it is to for me to understand how a video game can actually affect your life to the degree alot have stated. i enjoyed this story like i enjoy a good book or movie, which i have read or seen many good ones, but i've never had any trouble dis-associating myself with any of their stories. i never became a character, although i can relate to some, but not to the point where i was, for example, Lee, and i thought of a fictional character as my daughter, maybe i just don't have the depth of imagination as alot here. you asked how to forget about the game and clem i told you "get a life", i apologise, it was an unfair assumption, i realise now your not a shutin, with no life that doesn't involve a computer, whining about the fate of his virtual daughter. i just wanted to say don't be so obsessed with a game that it actually affects your life the way you stated it did, just go out, have fun, live, forget about the game, if only for awhile, not a hard thing to do living in new york. if your post was a tongue-in-the-cheek thing, in an attempt to show how much you enjoyed the story, fine. if not then i guess i have to realize there are some people whose lives can be greatly affected by a video game, if even for just a short while. good luck on those tests bud.
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Seriously, you really think that's what this comes down to? That all these people who were emotionally affected by a story of fictional characters is because they have no one in real life to care about? Because you may not be trying to be offense, but it sounds pretty offense to me.

To just make a blanket statement about how everyone who feels a certain way about a story is only feeling that way because they've lived a life devoid of meaningful experiences. To suggest to someone that to become emotionally invested in a tale is because they haven't actually lived a real life. Yes, that does come off as offensive.

People have been influenced and inspired by fiction through out human history and fiction affects them because it makes them think about their life and their choices and the people they love and care about. It's the very function of mythology, to shape and influence and challenge a person's way of thinking and it's still done to this very day. Often in ways people don't even realize.

Everything from children's cartoons trying to teach them to do the right thing, to action films inspiring people to be daring, to science fiction giving future generations something to strive to achieve, to romances that send some people looking for their own match made in heaven, to a story driven video game about zombies killing characters people like.

A nine year boy named Jerry Parr was once inspired by a forgettable B-Movie called ""Code of the Secret Service". Just one of many silly make believe Hollywood cop films, and it affected this boy so much he actually grew up to become a Secret Service agent, the same one who pushed Ronald Reagan into his limousine during an assassination attempt. The very same president whose decision to push for nuclear disarmament was heavily influenced by an 80's film called "The Day After". A film that was created by a producer who was inspired by a 70's film called "The China Syndrome".

Stories affect people lives because they can also reflect aspects of people's own lives. And fiction can reflect reality because it's created from real people's own life experiences and aspirations.

If you're saying The Walking Dead game didn't have an effect on you, that's perfectly fine. This story didn't affect you in a meaningful way, just like plenty of people who've tried it. But if you're saying a story having a lasting effect on someone else means there's something wrong with that person, than yeah, I might take offense to that. And if you're saying stories have no purpose in influencing people, well, then it sounds like you might be missing a significant life experience yourself.
I did not say anyone affected by this game has no real life experiences, quit looking for offences that were'nt given, on the contrary, i said that i know he has them, everyone does! All i said was its hard for me to understand how events from a video game carry the same affect and influences real life experiences do. in my later years the things i will remember are the things i have stated previously, the things i will primarily be influenced by are the things i was taught in school, by my parents, or have experienced first hand, not the events that happened in a fictional book, movie, or video game, its the same with everyone. you don't seem to want to admit it but this game is not going to carry the same significance for you as time goes by as it does at this moment, your real life experiences will always be there. you liked this game, i get it, i did too, but its a game, and it will have no meaningful bearing on my life.
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i agree bud i'm sorry for my hand in the diversion off the topic or any offence i inadvertantly gave. i won't speak on this again.
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yes our lives are different in ways, but not so different in others. and its true that you are much more into gaming than i am whether for a lack of time or desire, on my part. to spend so much on it. i love playing basketball, softball, flag football with my buds, or just, collecting the wives and heading down to the local sportsbar to watch a game and have fun. to me games like these are a pasttime for when i do have an hour or so with nothing to do. so maybe your right about how hard it is to for me to understand how a video game can actually affect your life to the degree alot have stated. i enjoyed this story like i enjoy a good book or movie, which i have read or seen many good ones, but i've never had any trouble dis-associating myself with any of their stories. i never became a character, although i can relate to some, but not to the point where i was, for example, Lee, and i thought of a fictional character as my daughter, maybe i just don't have the depth of imagination as alot here. you asked how to forget about the game and clem i told you "get a life", i apologise, it was an unfair assumption, i realise now your not a shutin, with no life that doesn't involve a computer, whining about the fate of his virtual daughter. i just wanted to say don't be so obsessed with a game that it actually affects your life the way you stated it did, just go out, have fun, live, forget about the game, if only for awhile, not a hard thing to do living in new york. if your post was a tongue-in-the-cheek thing, in an attempt to show how much you enjoyed the story, fine. if not then i guess i have to realize there are some people whose lives can be greatly affected by a video game, if even for just a short while. good luck on those tests bud.
My main post was mainly to say:

"This game was awesome, the devs deserve a lot of praise for making something like this. Now, any hints on getting unattached to clem and is anyone else attched?"

As I've said, I've never been attached to anything fictional before so I wanted to see if it was me going crazy or was the game just that good?

But I'm mostly over it now. I studied for 5 or so hours today, played a couple of new interesting games (Bastion) and am looking forward to a pre-order that's coming out tomorrow, discussing that game on other forums and with my friends. I'm finding things to do and not thinking about TWD now.

But as a example of how this game did effect me: Was watching the news today and apparently some guy went on a school bus, shot the driver and stole a child to hold hostage. As they start delving deeper into this story and I started listening, the only thing I could think about was "If that was Clemintine..." and I saw the story in a whole different perspective.

Before... I just disregarded these story's, never cared, never paid any attention to them. Now when I hear something like this, I actually feel for those parents or for that child that was taken. I actually try to understand and not just go "meh.." I actually put myself in there shoes and get it.

I was never a father nor do I think I know how it would feel. But this game was able to give me a glimpse of what having a daughter might feel like

I also was 100% against a daughter. I do want a family, but I always wanted a boy and I never ever wanted a girl. This game made me change that view. I fully understand that Clem is just a fictional character and that in real life a little child wont always be mature and problem-free. But it made me realize that it shouldn't matter if my child is a boy or girl, I'll enjoy the trip with them either way.

It actually made me ask myself as well of "What am I really living for?". I live at the moment to just enjoy life, but I don't have any real "point". This game gave me a glimpse of how getting a daughter or son (or a family in general) would effect me, and I realized just how much it would actually mean to me.

And all of that, just because I was able to put myself in lee's shoes and live his life. Lee was me in the game. Clem was my daughter by the end, and the way it ended definitely made it the most memorable game I've played to date.

Hopefully you can see a bit more of my side of the view now.
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