Who do you think will end up surviving longer in Z A . Carl from the Comics or Clem

[Bababooey]

Who do u think will survive longer in the Z A Carl from the comics or clementine from the game?

[zev_zev]

Alone? Or with smb?

[Violet Virago]

I think Clem will. As Rick is still the main focus of The Walking Dead comics, while I believe Clem is the focus of Telltale's series, and these are the necessary characters they follow (Kirkman has stated that The Walking Dead is simply following Rick's life, Lee was not ever the central character of the game, in my eyes it was Clementine). Therefore, Carl is expendable unless of course the comics take a story arc in which Carl is made to be the successor of Rick by the end of the comics and that will be the sole "happy" part of the ending. I fully expect Rick to die in Issue #300 which will be the final issue according to Kirkman, but if Carl hasn't died by then, then he's pretty much guaranteed to survive the series. Regardless, I don't think The Walking Dead comics will take that path, and I think Carl will die before Rick does (and thus before Clem).

[Vainamoinen]

Depends on the release window of Season 2.

Honestly - Kirkman can let Carl die whenever he wants to. I don't think his readers are even that much emotionally invested. Shocking, all right, but not unexpected. But when Telltale kills off Clementine...

...I really don't want to be in this forum when that happens.

Originally Posted by Violet Virago

Lee was not ever the central character of the game, in my eyes it was Clementine).

Name one scene besides the epilogue in which Lee wasn't there... and I'll enumerate 10 in which Clementine wasn't present. Seriously, I can imagine a game in which you don't really play as the actual protagonist... but not a good one.

[Zeruis]

Kirkman has portrayed Carl as immortal, be it from the comics or tv show. With the way I've been raising Clem, she might not make it. In my playthrough, she did not shoot the stranger or Lee. Even though I want Clem to survive longer than Carl, it's probably not going to happen.

Unless the two are BOTH portrayed as immortal. That's another story.

[Crixus]

Originally Posted by Bababooey

Who do u think will survive longer in the Z A Carl from the comics or clementine from the game?

Probably Carl but hopefully Clem! I just hope i thought her enough to be able to survive.

[ZeroShoot]

I think they both have about equal chances to survive, so it would come down to luck and bad luck as it always does. Hopefully Clem would survive longer, because I really don't care too much if Carl dies, he's an ass kicker but I don't like him very much.

[AnnaSan]

Both are very stubborn, but Clem listens more than Carl. Also Carl survived a gunshot to the head, taking a good chunk off the side of his face and it's already about a year in the comics o.o
Clem though, I'm pretty sure she'll survive for a long time with a group but not that long... She has to listen to her guardian and not talk to creepers on walkie-talkies D:

[CarScar]

Carl is better suited for survival, by a loooooonnnggg shot. Difference is that Kirkman, a known psychopath, is handling him. I don't think Telltale has the balls to kill Clementine (which is good, I'd be pissed if she dies. It'd be the first time I'd actually be mad at the writers over someone's death in The Walking Dead).

[Mornai]

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

Name one scene besides the epilogue in which Lee wasn't there... and I'll enumerate 10 in which Clementine wasn't present. Seriously, I can imagine a game in which you don't really play as the actual protagonist... but not a good one.

We may play as Lee, but i think the emotional focus is on Clementine rather than Lee himself. A lot of players feel sad at Lee's death not just for him but because he won't be there to protect her anymore. As the game progresses you get a stronger theme that Clem is Lee's priority, and nearly everything he does survival-wise has her in mind. In episode 5, she is literally the sole motivator for Lee to press on.

I'd say she's a major focus of the game story-wise, at least.


I'd also say Clem has a better chance of survival than Carl. Carl's likely to cause his own death before the environment does. He's too stubborn, too eager, and too hot-headed. With some of the crap he's pulled in the comics I'm surprised he's still alive to date.

[Rommel49]

Originally Posted by CarScar

Carl is better suited for survival, by a loooooonnnggg shot. Difference is that Kirkman, a known psychopath, is handling him. I don't think Telltale has the balls to kill Clementine (which is good, I'd be pissed if she dies. It'd be the first time I'd actually be mad at the writers over someone's death in The Walking Dead).

Better suited? I've said it before. Carl's missing an eye, the kid has no depth perception.

[DreadMagus]

Carl.

He's the only character in any iteration of the story I'd be nervous about.....

[DAISHI]

Originally Posted by Mornai

We may play as Lee, but i think the emotional focus is on Clementine rather than Lee himself. A lot of players feel sad at Lee's death not just for him but because he won't be there to protect her anymore. As the game progresses you get a stronger theme that Clem is Lee's priority, and nearly everything he does survival-wise has her in mind. In episode 5, she is literally the sole motivator for Lee to press on.

I'd say she's a major focus of the game story-wise, at least.

This. I'm not sure whose story it is because it's so well balanced between the two, not necessarily in terms of presence but in terms of where the story resonates.

[zev_zev]

Did anybody read Issue 106?

So if the question is who can longer live in ZA alone I bet for Carl. If it will be surviving in group, I bet for Clem.

[Snake Liquid]

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

Depends on the release window of Season 2.

Honestly - Kirkman can let Carl die whenever he wants to. I don't think his readers are even that much emotionally invested. Shocking, all right, but not unexpected. But when Telltale kills off Clementine...

...I really don't want to be in this forum when that happens.



Name one scene besides the epilogue in which Lee wasn't there... and I'll enumerate 10 in which Clementine wasn't present. Seriously, I can imagine a game in which you don't really play as the actual protagonist... but not a good one.

It's true about Carl. I've been reading the comics for a long time, and am fully caught up and waiting for the next issues release tomorrow. I think Kirkman, god bless him, has really worn thin the whole "get emotionally invested" in his characters. He kills them off more for shock value now than to actually advance the plot. Right now in the comic, there are seriously three characters that I like. It's not like it was when they were at the prison when there was a rich cast of characters to enjoy and read about. His side characters are really failing.

And it's also true, that each issue I just sort of expect anyone and everyone to die. It doesn't really matter too much if they do or don't at this point. I think the best thing Kirkman could possibly do is to either kill Rick and bring in a new protagonist, or just completely reformat the comic and start over with a new group.

Either way, back to the main question. It's difficult to tell. Carl really didn't start coming into his own and become the bad ass that people like until post-prison. That was well into a year after the apocalypse started. Clem has only been seen up until about 4 months after the start, and the way her story closes out at the end of Season 2, she might start becoming a more proactive survivor earlier than Carl did.

[Viner16]

Carl. That boy is a fucking monster. 2 years into the apocalypse and he's sneaking into enemy territory, taking out as much as he can. (Not a smart choice though XD)

Clem is 3-4 months into the apocalypse and already emotionally devastated.

[aerial-ballet]

Originally Posted by Mornai

We may play as Lee, but i think the emotional focus is on Clementine rather than Lee himself. A lot of players feel sad at Lee's death not just for him but because he won't be there to protect her anymore. As the game progresses you get a stronger theme that Clem is Lee's priority, and nearly everything he does survival-wise has her in mind. In episode 5, she is literally the sole motivator for Lee to press on.

I'd say she's a major focus of the game story-wise, at least.


I'd also say Clem has a better chance of survival than Carl. Carl's likely to cause his own death before the environment does. He's too stubborn, too eager, and too hot-headed. With some of the crap he's pulled in the comics I'm surprised he's still alive to date.

My thoughts exactly.

[gimmeseason2]

I'm not too familiar with Carl from the comics but I assume that killing him off won't be nearly as evil as killing Clem off from the game. That would just cause riots in the streets and gamers committing suicide.

[CarScar]

Originally Posted by Rommel49

Better suited? I've said it before. Carl's missing an eye, the kid has no depth perception.

Do you honestly think that will hinder him? He's a little wrecking ball that kid.

[DreadMagus]

Wrecking ball?

He's like a fucking terminator... when he lost that eye, I expected a red glow to be underneath.