Why didnt Larry reveal Lee's past to the group?

[Cherish]

Larry was an ***hole -.-

plain and simple.

[DanJ555]

Originally Posted by Cherish

Larry was an ***hole -.-

plain and simple.

An asshole to society's standards, but that's what you have to do if you want to survive. You risked lives bringing someone who might have been bit into the pharmacy. You could have had a mental disorder that made you happy when you murder people and that's why the senator was murdered. Had you not been snooping around in the St. John's business he would have food in his belly and not locked in a meat locker.

Because of today's technology its unnecessary to be such an asshole. But when you have it all taken it away being selfish is the only way to live.

[CarScar]

Originally Posted by DanJ555

An asshole to society's standards, but that's what you have to do if you want to survive. You risked lives bringing someone who might have been bit into the pharmacy. You could have had a mental disorder that made you happy when you murder people and that's why the senator was murdered. Had you not been snooping around in the St. John's business he would have food in his belly and not locked in a meat locker.

Because of today's technology its unnecessary to be such an asshole. But when you have it all taken it away being selfish is the only way to live.

No, Larry was just an asshole. He always goes out of his way to make people feel bad. That has nothing to do with survival, he's literally just a huge asshole.

[DanJ555]

"being selfish is the only way to live"

Making people feel bad leads to suicide

Suicide leads to more supplies to less people

which leads to survival.

[Robert Morgan]

Larry was a brute. A brute with a few good intentions, but a brute nonetheless. He knew the group needed Lee, and kicking him out would have only made him twice as unpopular, to the point where someone else (Kenny probably) would confront Larry, resulting in one of them getting killed.

Larry needed an excuse to get rid of Lee, and chances are he was biding his time until such an excuse emerged. You can bet if Larry had still been around when Lee was bitten, he would have unloaded both barrels of a shotgun into Lee's head without even hesitating.

[AnnaSan]

Maybe he was gonna do the same thing Lilly did after she killed Carley, waiting for the right time to use it against me.

[Mornai]

Originally Posted by DanJ555

"being selfish is the only way to live"

Making people feel bad leads to suicide

Suicide leads to more supplies to less people

which leads to survival.

Lilly herself basically says Larry was like that before the apocalypse even began. "It's just his way." He treats everyone like garbage not because he hopes they'll off themselves(and have less numbers for protection, less efficient supply gathering, watchmen, etc.) but because that's his personality. It's how he was before the apocalypse and how he was afterward. Additionally with his heart condition, it seems unlikely he would put more work on himself by getting rid of survivors when they could be doing work for him.

He already attempted to murder Lee. Why bother going to such an effort to emotionally exterminate someone when he has already attempted to kill them outright? We've seen that he is a powerhouse, and potentially the strongest of all the survivors. He could easily kill anyone he didn't want, either through direct confrontation or at night while they sleep.

Larry is not the kind of guy to go to such lengths to get rid of others when he can just brute force his way to victory.

[Robert Morgan]

There's no doubt Lilly loved her father, and even confessed at one point that he was "bitter and hateful," but it's also hard to deny she had a habit of turning a blind eye to Larry's worst vices. Not once did Lilly own up to the fact that Larry deliberately knocked Lee out cold at one point to be eaten alive, and it's clear from Carley/Doug's death beside the RV that she inherited her father's mean streak.

[DreadMagus]

Originally Posted by DanJ555

An asshole to society's standards, but that's what you have to do if you want to survive. You risked lives bringing someone who might have been bit into the pharmacy. You could have had a mental disorder that made you happy when you murder people and that's why the senator was murdered. Had you not been snooping around in the St. John's business he would have food in his belly and not locked in a meat locker.

Because of today's technology its unnecessary to be such an asshole. But when you have it all taken it away being selfish is the only way to live.

Except Lee proved his worth by getting the meds to save his stupid ass.... so it wasn't even pragmatism, it was spite.

[double_u]

I was watching a documentary on the USAF's SR-71 Blackbird reconnaissance plane yesterday, and pilots trying to join the program are tested by psychologists to determine if they have the ability to get along with others for long periods of time.

My first thought: Larry would fail the selection test.

[CarScar]

Originally Posted by DanJ555

"being selfish is the only way to live"

Making people feel bad leads to suicide

Suicide leads to more supplies to less people

which leads to survival.

No, no, no.

1. Making people feel bad leads to suicide
   
2. Suicide leads to zombies
   
3. Zombies lead to death

OR

1. Making people feel bad leads to thoughts of murder
   
2. Thoughts of murder leads to murder
   
3. Murder leads to a dead Larry.

Larry is literally one of the biggest assholes in a game I've ever seen. He's so evil that his subtitle text is RED.

[QuarterPounderVlad]

He loved Lee, OBVIOUSLY. DUH!

[Blossomed]

Everyone was already pretty uneasy with Larry in the first place, if Larry had chose to reveal who Lee really was then just maybe everyone would stick by Larry? Who knows. Although I don't think Larry was a bad guy at all, the world had turned to crap and he was just looking out for his daughter and Clementine.

[MilitaryHQ]

Larry was a father. He loves his daughter. He wasn't lost his humanity. If he revealed Lee's past to the group. Then, they could kick Lee. And Lee and Clementine could be alone.(I'm sure Clementine wants to go with him) That's why he didn't reveal Lee's past to the group. He knew this day could come.

[Rommel49]

Originally Posted by Mornai

Lilly herself basically says Larry was like that before the apocalypse even began. "It's just his way." He treats everyone like garbage not because he hopes they'll off themselves(and have less numbers for protection, less efficient supply gathering, watchmen, etc.) but because that's his personality. It's how he was before the apocalypse and how he was afterward. Additionally with his heart condition, it seems unlikely he would put more work on himself by getting rid of survivors when they could be doing work for him.

Actually, I think Lilly basically says that Larry became an ass as a result of the apocalypse. The whole spiel about how he was hardened because he already lost everything else, etc. We do see signs that there's an actual human being under there at times; most notably, his interactions with Brenda. Likewise, as I've mentioned elsewhere, when Kenny advocates potentially taking the Dairy by force, it's Larry that balks at the idea on the basis that the St. Johns are "good people" (he's a sucky judge of character, so there is that).

He certainly wasn't adverse to work, either... he was the one who dragged what were presumably the bodies of Lee's parents out of the drug store office.

[PinkxAngel]

Originally Posted by CarScar

No, no, no.

1. Making people feel bad leads to suicide
   
2. Suicide leads to zombies
   
3. Zombies lead to death

OR

1. Making people feel bad leads to thoughts of murder
   
2. Thoughts of murder leads to murder
   
3. Murder leads to a dead Larry.

Larry is literally one of the biggest assholes in a game I've ever seen. He's so evil that his subtitle text is RED.

Could not agree more! I don't know why anyone would prefer to take Larrys side because there is a difference in protecting your family and being a completely massive evil asshole!

[JamesDMorgan]

The way I see it: Larry just used his knowledge as a precaution in case Lee does something dangerous to him or his daughter. The whole reason for "hatred" is that Larry knew who Lee was before the apocalypse - a convicted killer, so naturally, he thought Lee was dangerous.

I don't think that Larry wanted to blackmail Lee - he didn't even tell Lilly about Lee's past while he had a chance to do so without any possible backfire. He just said that "there's something to this guy".

He was an asshole, but not a bad person - that's how I see him. He wasn't the smartest type, but he did his best to protect Lilly and himself. I don't think that his actions or decisions were wise and acceptable, but that's what he thought was best.

He was always pragmatic, I can even understand some of his reasoning behind throwing Duck out in the drugstore. Emotions and morals aside, they knew nothing about the zombies or about how it all works, so potentially, I would've also been cautious about a person cowered in blood that was in a close contact with zombies before coming to me. Kid or not, it potentially could be dangerous, it could harm the group or a person I care for. It's just that he presented this in a total jackass kind of way that made it look horrible.

In my playthrough, I tried to be nice to him, I tried to understand his intentions. He actually tried to help me with that zombie in a pickup truck, while he could easily stay aside and watch me die.

When Mark told Larry that I said that Larry just cares for Lilly and does everything to protect her, he was out of words. Which means that he couldn't really bring himself to say something really bad to me after hearing my real thoughts about him, which means that he wasn't a bad guy after all.

Of course, I tried to help him out in a meat locker. If things were different, I'm sure that my Lee could've changed Larry's attitude to "neutral" afterwards.

It is obvious that developers tried to make him look like a completely negative character, hence the red font and all the stuff, but he really wasn't so bad. For a "negative" character he surprisingly never harmed anyone other than verbally.

Now if we look at Ben, that's a complete opposite - he is not an asshole towards people, he doesn't hate you, yet he's responsible directly or indirectly for how many deaths in your group?

There you go. I chose Larry over Ben anytime, at least Larry can be useful for something other than whining

[zjs]

Originally Posted by CarScar

No, no, no.

1. Making people feel bad leads to suicide
   
2. Suicide leads to zombies

Suicides involving the destruction of the brain don't lead to zombies.

RE Katja, Chuck, the dead couple on the bed in episode V & cf. Duck, Lee.

[Jaded X Gamer]

Originally Posted by JamesDMorgan

Of course, I tried to help him out in a meat locker. If things were different, I'm sure that my Lee could've changed Larry's attitude to "neutral" afterwards.

Yeah, because he was so grateful the first time Lee saved his life, he only tried to kill him as thanks.

You're deluding yourself if you ever think Larry would ever be less of an asshole to anyone in the group. He yells at Lee for poking around the St. Johns, then yells at him for "dragging his feet". Same thing in episode one. He gives this big speech about how a single walker will make more and kill us all if any get into the store, then he yells at Carley for shooting a walker that was in the store. There was no pleasing the man.

And at least when Ben whines, he doesn't give himself a heart attack and makes already terrible situations even worse. Larry being an asshole was literally the death of him.

[Mark$man]

Originally Posted by CarScar

No, no, no.

Larry is literally one of the biggest assholes in a game I've ever seen. He's so evil that his subtitle text is RED.

I seriously laughed at that. Reminded me of learning of the four temperaments, and how red is hot tempered, violent etc. DUH! Why didn't any of us see this from the beginning? xD But yeah... Larry needed to die. Besides the fact Lilly was leaving, and she wouldn't without her dad... he was just a prick. If there had been an option to unload a shotgun cartridge into his face instead, that'd be awesome, cuz he's earned my death list after my first playthrough. If you wanna drop a salt lick on his head after, that'd just be an option :P