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Old 02/13/2013, 06:57 am   #21
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Neither of them are going anywhere for a long time. Telltale don't have the balls to kill off Clementine and Robert Kirkman said something about Carl probably taking over from Rick when he dies and that the whole thing is pretty much 'Carl's story' or something like that.
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Old 02/13/2013, 07:01 am   #22
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Robert Kirkman said something about Carl probably taking over from Rick when he dies
As like Clementine taking over from Lee.
(I don't wonna that Rick will ever die!!! )
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Old 02/13/2013, 07:42 am   #23
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Wrecking ball?

He's like a fucking terminator... when he lost that eye, I expected a red glow to be underneath.
I'm betting that's what will cause his downfall. Sooner or later he's going to be charging at walkers rambo style and the harsh reality that he's not superman will come crashing down on him in the form of one bite mark...on the neck. No amputations this time...
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Old 02/13/2013, 12:28 pm   #24
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As like Clementine taking over from Lee.
(I don't wonna that Rick will ever die!!! )
I don't see Clem taking over anything.

Who in their right mind will follow the lead of a 9 year old?
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Old 02/13/2013, 07:15 pm   #25
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Carl is really one tough kid with bad luck. Clem is smart, cautious, and lucky. I can see Clem outliving Carl cause Carl does some reckless act causing his death.
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Old 02/13/2013, 07:54 pm   #26
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Carl's experiences haven't forced him to grow up so much as regress into a bitter little dwarf. But depending on how you guide Clementine, she could gradually become a young adult who miraculously retains her humanity amidst all the carnage.

...so to answer the question, I hope Clem survives to be an old woman, never mind longer than somebody else. But not at the cost of her soul.
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Old 02/13/2013, 09:30 pm   #27
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Looking ahead, do you know how you want Rick’s story to end? If the series continues 10 or 20 years, and it always follows Rick, the stories would not have the same impact because readers would always know that Rick will survive. I’ve heard you say in the past that Rick could die at any time. Is that still the case?

Robert Kirkman: Yeah, Rick could go at any time. I think that Carl could carry the book now. I know that there are interesting stories I could do with him, Andrea, or Michonne. To a certain extent, I think it would be interesting to follow Negan for a little bit and see what that story would be like.

I definitely think that Rick has been the anchor for the series and may be the anchor of the series for a long time. I do have plans for him and I know where his story is going, but I promise that Rick will not survive the entire run of the book.

I think the book will go past 300 issues at this point. Charlie and I absolutely love what we’re doing and it is exactly the thing I have wanted to do ever since I wanted to do comics. I’m having the time of my life. The book is going to go on for a long time and no one is safe… not even Rick.
Based on the above, DEFINITELY CARL! Technically, he already has survived longer, but if I'm thinking ahead... I can't see Clem years into the future, able to survive on her own. In a group, sure, and she might even be a strong second, but I can't see her being on her own - and that's why I think that she wouldn't survive as long.
At some point in the ZA, a person would be alone. Either the scouting group they were out with gets attacked and they're separated or the sole survivor, or their whole small group is wiped out.
Carl would be fine on his own. Maybe go dark, but he'd be fine, still. Clem wouldn't. She was able to make it to the country after shooting Lee, true, but I think she's the type that would forever seek out a group. And if she couldn't find one after a while, I think she might go a little crazy. Lose all hope, all that kind of thing.
Carl has a stronger spirit, he's a better shot, he's a tougher kid. He might not be the most likeable to some people, but he is the more equipped for survival. :P
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Old 02/13/2013, 09:57 pm   #28
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Carl has a stronger spirit, he's a better shot, he's a tougher kid. He might not be the most likeable to some people, but he is the more equipped for survival. :P
Clementine has quite the spirit as well, despite all the death that surrounds her she has endured indefinitely.

"Well, you still have a couple of kids and this one has a good spirit."

Interestingly, I see Carl and Clementine two sides of the same coin, like Rick and Lee. You could say Clementine represents innocence and Carl represents maliciousness (or what have you). But I believe that is false, I see Clementine representing maturity and Carl representing toughness. And that's why I told Clementine to shoot Lee, why should I try to preserve Clementine's innocence when she's in such a ruthless, uncaring world? Hopefully it toughened her, if she could shoot Lee I know she could do anything.

Meanwhile Carl, while at the absolute peak of toughness, doesn't have much in the way of maturity, he's arrogant and I believe that to be his downfall, in his current state. For example raiding Negan's camp was extremely idiotic. Although given time I see him developing more like Rick, gaining maturity along the way.

What is also interesting is the two characters flaws: Clementine is too dependent and Carl is too arrogant. Clementine could easily die if kept alone over a long period of time, however Carl could easily die as well if he rushed into a situation without much thought. Although those two flaws will be abolished in time, with Rick's influence over Carl and Clementine showing signs of becoming more independent in episode four and five (following Lee to the river, standing up for Ben, going into the doggy door without permission).

Although Carl is obviously the greater shooter, Clementine is not bad at all. That walker that was attacking Molly was one hard walker to hit, my Lee couldn't do it and she seemed to do it effortlessly. Also Clementine has the advantage concerning survival tips as well, in my opinion. My Lee spent five episodes telling her tips on how to survive, teaching her not to be afraid, to always keep moving, et cetera. Meanwhile Rick gives Carl very little in the way of tips, mostly because Carl is so independent.

I still believe Carl has the definite edge but, given time, I can see Clementine becoming a real machine. As to if that will be a good thing or not has yet to be seen. I don't want Clementine to become like Carl because although he'll probably survive longer than Clementine in the end, he's pretty much already dead inside.
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Old 02/14/2013, 06:50 am   #29
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I don't see Clem taking over anything.

Who in their right mind will follow the lead of a 9 year old?
If the 9 year old is holding you at gunpoint, I'd say those chances are decently high.
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Old 02/14/2013, 12:25 pm   #30
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Carl. He's more badass and less naive.
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Old 02/16/2013, 07:01 pm   #31
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Te soy honesto si eliminas a Clementine arruinas a perder el juego, porque que te conmueve más un niño o niña, para ti quien es más vulnerable si los escritores la lastiman físicamente a una pequeña que es lo que piensa las personas, los tachan de abusivos o de pedófilos, si quieres lanzar al drenaje a la compañía lastima a Clementine, si no me crees échale un vistazo a las redes sociales y luego contestas.
Voto por un final feliz para Clementine y su salida de la historia.
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Old 02/16/2013, 07:37 pm   #32
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I don't see Clem taking over anything.

Who in their right mind will follow the lead of a 9 year old?
Lee.
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Old 02/16/2013, 08:07 pm   #33
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I hadn't thought of it that way too much, although I have to disagree that Carl's dead inside. Just a personal perspective thing lol
But yes, I can see Clem being a strong person later on. And Carl could use some maturity, although the incident you brought up was pretty bad ass! It was luck,though, that he got out.
We had Clem shoot us, too. I think it was the right course of action, because, like you said, it's a tough world she's living in now. That Clem I think would do a lot better than the Clem that can't, won't, or didn't shoot Lee.
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