Telltale and Puzzles: A Rant.

[der_ketzer]

Originally Posted by nulian

it felt abit like playing those old school FMV games where you just have to click once in a while and you get next cut scene.

Well even those games had some real brain-melters in them. But I could have done without some of those...

...like the alien machine at the end of Phantasmagoria 2

[lattsam]

On a different topic, it seems that while Telltale's games seem to lose puzzles, the Professor Layton series seems to GAIN puzzles!

In fact, I'm still downloading the Daily Puzzles from Miracle Mask!

[RAnthonyMahan]

Originally Posted by lattsam

On a different topic, it seems that while Telltale's games seem to lose puzzles, the Professor Layton series seems to GAIN puzzles!

In fact, I'm still downloading the Daily Puzzles from Miracle Mask!

It wouldn't be Professor Layton without puzzles everywhere.

...I wonder if that Phoenix Wright crossover is getting localized.

[lattsam]

Originally Posted by RAnthonyMahan

It wouldn't be Professor Layton without puzzles everywhere.

...I wonder if that Phoenix Wright crossover is getting localized.

If not, it would be an OBJECTION!

...Sorry, had to say it.

[RAnthonyMahan]

On a semi-related note, the fact that The Walking Dead has now completely overshadowed everything else Telltale's done is...upsetting, to be polite.

[der_ketzer]

Originally Posted by RAnthonyMahan

On a semi-related note, the fact that The Walking Dead has now completely overshadowed everything else Telltale's done is...upsetting, to be polite.

I don't think it's upsetting. It's understandable. A recent series on TV and comics and a great story. Plus they still know how to create something the fans of the source material will like.
Understandable but worrying.

[Vainamoinen]

Originally Posted by RAnthonyMahan

On a semi-related note, the fact that The Walking Dead has now completely overshadowed everything else Telltale's done is...upsetting, to be polite.

It's their greatest success yet.

That's it, really.

TWD overshadows previous games in pretty much the same way ToMI did. But Telltale "is" not TWD now. That's also pretty evident from the new site's design, which soothed my worries in that respect. Sam & Max is still getting equal room, it's not as if TWD took everything previously done and killed it.

Some people who came here for TWD look at the back catalog and just don't get it. That is understandable to a degree. But it is only their opinion that Telltale is TWD and TWD alone. I've encountered the opinion that Telltale had become "100 times more popular" with TWD. That's bullshit.

The maximum of visitors this forum had was about 1,700 during S&M Season 3; this record was broken with TWD (now: 2,526 visitors). So I guess we could assume Telltale gained 50% more popularity. Which is impressive, but hardly "overshadowing".

[tbm1986]

I'm not a fan of the Action or Horror genres of story-telling, so I've deliberately avoided Jurassic Park and TWD. I will play TWD one day because I am intrigued about the decision-based story that was partly inspired by Heavy Rain. I am, however, a fan of Fantasy novels and old-school Adventure games, so I have high hopes that Fables and King's Quest (when they finally get released) will bring me back here on a regular basis. How soon, Telltale?

[corruptbiggins]

Fables shouldn't really be far off. By the summer at the latest I'd say.

[Darth Marsden]

From what I've heard though, Fables is going to play like TWD, so... yeah.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Just going to say this but i think we all seen what happened the first time we seen TTG go far away from Gameplay and mainly focus on story. That would be JP The Game :/

[Jennifer]

Originally Posted by ryannumber1gamer

Just going to say this but i think we all seen what happened the first time we seen TTG go far away from Gameplay and mainly focus on story. That would be JP The Game :/

Although I personally liked it, Telltale's likely not going to do a game like that again. It wasn't just the longtime fans that criticized that game, but the press as well. Telltale's learned from that and moved on.

[flesk]

Originally Posted by tbm1986

I'm not a fan of the Action or Horror genres of story-telling, so I've deliberately avoided Jurassic Park and TWD.

I'm not against those genres in general, but those games don't interest me much for other reasons.

Originally Posted by tbm1986

I am, however, a fan of Fantasy novels and old-school Adventure games, so I have high hopes that Fables and King's Quest (when they finally get released) will bring me back here on a regular basis. How soon, Telltale?

Like Darth Marsden wrote, Fables will probably play like TWD. I think Dan Connors mentioned as much in an interview, but I don't remember where I read it.

Sadly it doesn't look like we'll see King's Quest this year if at all. According to Eurogamer.net Telltale is releasing TWD season 2 this autumn.

[MtnPeak]

Originally Posted by Darth Marsden

From what I've heard though, Fables is going to play like TWD, so... yeah.

Have you heard anything about KQ? That's what I'm most interested in.

[lattsam]

Originally Posted by MtnPeak

Have you heard anything about KQ? That's what I'm most interested in.

I'm more interested in anything Sam-and-Max-related myself. It surprises me that there's nothing new about it, other than the 25th anniversary sale last year...

[Vainamoinen]

Originally Posted by lattsam

I'm more interested in anything Sam-and-Max-related myself. It surprises me that there's nothing new about it, other than the 25th anniversary sale last year...

25th anniversary is OVER. Telltale wanted to do something for it, Dan even said so explicitly in "his" thread. But they didn't. I won't search for the easy answers, but I do find that very disappointing. There was a sale... but even that was mostly a Steam sale.

On to the 30th!

Originally Posted by flesk

Fables will probably play like TWD. I think Dan Connors mentioned as much in an interview, but I don't remember where I read it.

He didn't, at least not THAT explicitly. What he said was that several of the now established TWD mechanics will return. I think he talks about "choices", now with a much clearer good/reasonable/human, bad/brute/animalistic division. Whether the rest of the mechanics will return (the QTEs, the action scenes, the pacing, the time limit on conversations, the minigames etc.) is unclear as of now.

Originally Posted by ryannumber1gamer

Just going to say this but i think we all seen what happened the first time we seen TTG go far away from Gameplay and mainly focus on story. That would be JP The Game :/

THAT is overly simplistic and untrue to boot. What we see here is the search for a new kind of gameplay. It is clear how Jurassic Park tried to tie interactivity to its game - I would assume the number of pressed buttons per episode to be 15 times as much as the odd TWD one; and you and I may not have enjoyed this experience. But to characterise JP as the "ultimate story driven non-game" just to have an example for the lowest end of the scale, that's just unhelpful.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

25th anniversary is OVER. Telltale wanted to do something for it, Dan even said so explicitly in "his" thread. But they didn't. I won't search for the easy answers, but I do find that very disappointing. There was a sale... but even that was mostly a Steam sale.

On to the 30th!

Even then the blog post about it was fulled with people crying about ''When is the next TWD episode out'' ''I WANT IT NOW '' Very disappointing blog post

[Jennifer]

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

25th anniversary is OVER. Telltale wanted to do something for it, Dan even said so explicitly in "his" thread. But they didn't. I won't search for the easy answers, but I do find that very disappointing. There was a sale... but even that was mostly a Steam sale.

I wouldn't say Telltale didn't do anything, they did have an art/story contest and a sale (for every system that Telltale's Sam and Max games are on). They did quite a lot for their anniversary.

The sale wasn't just on Steam, but also on consoles and iOS. And to be fair, there was also a sale on Telltale's Sam & Max games at GOG.com during Sam & Max's anniversary year.

Originally Posted by ryannumber1gamer

Even then the blog post about it was fulled with people crying about ''When is the next TWD episode out'' ''I WANT IT NOW '' Very disappointing blog post

That's not exactly Telltale's fault. That's one of the main reasons why they disabled any future comments.

It was nice to see Telltale acknowledging Sam & Max's anniversary on their main blog. The contest was a nice thing for fans (and it was good that it wasn't just for pictures and artwork, but for stories too, so it was open to everyone). It was nice to see an art contest again (I missed those).

And the sales were nice for getting new people into the series (and for fans to pick up the games on other systems). I thought Telltale handled Sam & Max's 25th just fine. Telltale could have just ignored the 25th anniversary completely. Now, that would have been disappointing.

[ryannumber1gamer]

I know its not TTG's fault but it still does not mean it sorta ruined the tone. We don't exactly go into TWD blog posts and start saying ''WE WANT TALES OF MONKEY ISLAND 2 & SAM & MAX SEASON 4'' There was even a person who went in and said ''Don't care where is TWD Ep 4?!'' Another one was ''Don't give a shit about Sam & Max, give us episode 3 for the EU PSN NOW!'' and the same person who wrote the first comment i mentioned wrote ''No one cares about a stupid animated dog and rabbit. Everyone cares about The Walking Dead because of its intense drama and The Walking Dead is what TellTale is making a lot of money from.'' Now that was the most stupid and rude comment in the whole blog post in my opinion. I was happy that some people like Vainamoinen, Nintendo Boy1, Gman5852, & der_ketzer, went in and defended the Sam & Max games in the blog post.

I think the best comment is from Vainamoinen where he says something that relates to Sam & Max and shows his disappointment in the people posting about TWD in a S&M post. The comment was ''You don't crack me up little buddies''.

Anyway i think moderators should be able to go into the blogs and delete comments like people did in that S&M post :/.

[Jennifer]

Originally Posted by ryannumber1gamer

I know its not TTG's fault but it still does not mean it sorta ruined the tone. We don't exactly go into TWD blog posts and start saying ''WE WANT TALES OF MONKEY ISLAND 2 & SAM & MAX SEASON 4'' There was even a person who went in and said ''Don't care where TWD Ep 3?!

That's an old discussion (that has been discussed over and over again on these forums and is well over and done now). And it's a moot point now that the blog comments are disabled.