Shooting the Girl in the street

[Mark$man]

I left her all times but 1, just to see what would happen. Although there is little difference, leaving her was just the right decision.

[Demopan]

I shot her. I mean, being eaten like that is one of the worst fates I can imagine. I wouldn't put that on my worst enemy.

[Mikejames]

I may be a bit of a hypocrite...
I killed Danny for what he did and only felt terrible when Clem saw it, and I stole the food out of desperation before still choosing to shoot the girl in the street.

Maybe it's easier for me to be harshly pragmatic when I don't see whom I'm directly hurting?

[ZeroShoot]

I left her, she was dead in any way, so why waste a bullet? Yeah she suffered, but after 2 minutes it was over, once and for all, if she was alive, I would have saved her, but... that wasn't the case

[CarScar]

I still stand by my beliefs that shooting her was the better option. If I were in her situation I'd dearly, dearly hope someone would shoot me. Being eaten alive, having your skin literally being ripped off your body slowly... God knows how much pain she would have endured if she wasn't shot. I don't want anyone to feel that pain, ever. And if it cost me losing a couple of energy bars? So be it. If Clem misses out on a meal? So be it. I know Clem, I know she'd gladly give up a meal if it meant someone didn't have to suffer for it.

Although, admittedly, it's sappy but I just feel that's what my Lee would do. After he has caused so much suffering too his wife, his parents, his brother, probably all his friends, students, coworkers... All those people who looked up too Lee, befriended Lee, or loved Lee probably suffered after learning what Lee had done... I really wouldn't want to cause anymore suffering in my lifetime, especially suffering to that degree.

[GREYxDUZxKRUSH]

Originally Posted by CarScar

I still stand by my beliefs that shooting her was the better option. If I were in her situation I'd dearly, dearly hope someone would shoot me. Being eaten alive, having your skin literally being ripped off your body slowly... God knows how much pain she would have endured if she wasn't shot. I don't want anyone to feel that pain, ever. And if it cost me losing a couple of energy bars? So be it. If Clem misses out on a meal? So be it. I know Clem, I know she'd gladly give up a meal if it meant someone didn't have to suffer for it.

Although, admittedly, it's sappy but I just feel that's what my Lee would do. After he has caused so much suffering too his wife, his parents, his brother, probably all his friends, students, coworkers... All those people who looked up too Lee, befriended Lee, or loved Lee probably suffered after learning what Lee had done... I really wouldn't want to cause anymore suffering in my lifetime, especially suffering to that degree.

With this thought process your probably dead in ZA. Heart or Smart. I choose smart. Raw emotion and feelings are the enemy in dangerous situtations. The one meal thing theyve been starving since before st johns. If she was savable then ok but shes dead with no chance. We have a chance because of her. Her death has meaning her dying gave us the time we needed to get in and out in one trip. You shoot her its just another meaning less death and you bring down the herd on you. Possibly killing yourself and anyone that needs you to survive. If you didnt get everything out of the pharmacy you would risk return trips which are as dangerous if not more dangerous later. Your alive shes dead enough said lets get this shit and go.

[CarScar]

Originally Posted by GREYxDUZxKRUSH

With this thought process your probably dead in ZA. Heart or Smart. I choose smart. Raw emotion and feelings are the enemy dangerous situtations. The one meal thing theyve been starving since before st johns. If she was savable then ok but shes dead with no chance. We have a chance because of her. Her death has meaning her dying gave us the time we needed to get in and out in one trip. You shoot her its just another meaning less death and you bring down the herd on you. Possibly killing yourself and anyone that needs you to survive. If you didnt get everything out of the pharmacy you would risk return trips which as dangerous if not more dangerous later.

Actually, I agree completely. Although people hold onto the notion that keeping one's humanity is a strength, I believe it to be a crippling weakness. Probably the greatest weakness someone could have come the zombie apocalypse. Breaking your humanity and doing what needs to be done is a strength I don't really see myself capable of doing. I can't honestly see myself doing what needs to be done.

That said I wouldn't exactly call myself a bastion of light, or what have you. Just in this specific case I would do the humane thing no questions ask. I agree with Ben that one's greatest fear come to the zombie apocalypse would be being eaten alive. Can you imagine the pain? I don't even want to think of it, it's just awful. It'd be like getting ripped apart by mini saw blades. You wouldn't even find comfort in knowing your going to leave this fucked up world because the process would be slow. And honestly someone enduring that pain isn't worth getting some more food items from a place that has been scavenged for months now, nearly picked to the bone. It's not like we're starving too, we were much better fed than in episode two due to the Stranger's car.

[GREYxDUZxKRUSH]

Im not saying id be whistling while shes getting eaten. And yes eaten alive would suck donkey balls but these choices would constantly come up. If kenny ended up getting his face chewed off because you were worried about the DEAD girl suffering.....

[Marumochi]

On my good guy playthrough, I think I took too long trying to shoot her so we had to make a bee-line for the pharmacy. Felt pretty bad for doing so.

On my not-so-good-guy playthrough, I left her right away and was able to get the 20 items with plenty of time to spare.

[Cooperal]

I left her. She was already bit before you could fire. People who still have a shot at survival were my top priority. And that meant grabbing those meds as risk-free as possible.

Apparently you actually score more "respect" points from Kenny by disobeying him, thereby demonstrating your compassion, and the strength to do what he couldn't. Don't care.

[Rommel49]

Originally Posted by CarScar

Actually, I agree completely. Although people hold onto the notion that keeping one's humanity is a strength, I believe it to be a crippling weakness. Probably the greatest weakness someone could have come the zombie apocalypse. Breaking your humanity and doing what needs to be done is a strength I don't really see myself capable of doing. I can't honestly see myself doing what needs to be done.

That said I wouldn't exactly call myself a bastion of light, or what have you. Just in this specific case I would do the humane thing no questions ask. I agree with Ben that one's greatest fear come to the zombie apocalypse would be being eaten alive. Can you imagine the pain? I don't even want to think of it, it's just awful. It'd be like getting ripped apart by mini saw blades. You wouldn't even find comfort in knowing your going to leave this fucked up world because the process would be slow. And honestly someone enduring that pain isn't worth getting some more food items from a place that has been scavenged for months now, nearly picked to the bone. It's not like we're starving too, we were much better fed than in episode two due to the Stranger's car.

The problem with that thought process is that if it isn't worth letting a stranger (who's really already pretty much dead) die painfully to scavenge food, medicine, etc. for your group just because there isn't much left, then when would it be worth it?

In a survival scenario, you don't take anything for granted. You're always trying to improve your situation, not make it worse. The way I see it, I have a duty to the group of still-living people I'm with more than I do to some stranger that's going to end up dead by the end of the day no matter what I do. There's only so many potential meals you can turn down before someone does end up paying the price for it... that's a much worse option.

[CarScar]

Originally Posted by Rommel49

The problem with that thought process is that if it isn't worth letting a stranger (who's really already pretty much dead) die painfully to scavenge food, medicine, etc. for your group just because there isn't much left, then when would it be worth it?

In a survival scenario, you don't take anything for granted. You're always trying to improve your situation, not make it worse. The way I see it, I have a duty to the group of still-living people I'm with more than I do to some stranger that's going to end up dead by the end of the day no matter what I do. There's only so many potential meals you can turn down before someone does end up paying the price for it... that's a much worse option.

Perhaps, but at the end of the day I still got 18 / 20 items. I missed out on what, two energy bars? I know I wasn't aware of how the situation would have played out when I made my decision but still, it turned out great regardless and I'm glad I put her out of her misery. Because if I hadn't, she would have died in possibly one of the most painful ways imaginable so we could only gain two extra energy bars.

I know we have different views but I'd give up a meal if it meant something departed painlessly rather than painfully. Although the choice would most likely change if my situation were desperate enough.

[GREYxDUZxKRUSH]

But what if that meal you gave up was the difference between being physically able to do tasks. What if you did not find more for weeks. Injury were you cannot move to get more. Shit happens. Could be difference between life and death. So yea 3 bullets, 2 energy bars, or 1 antibiotic could mean a whole lot.

[Jaded X Gamer]

Was no one concerned that screaming panicked woman might see Kenny and Lee and start unknowingly bringing the dead after them if she ran towards them? Or she might survive long enough to start raising dead all over Macon, fucking up possible escape routes? Or get cornered right in front of the pharmacy and her yells end up bringing more dead down upon the building?

Lotta talk about being "smart" but in retrospect, leaving her alive seemed like as much a liability as shooting her. You only see her run back the way she came after you decide to leave her, so you don't really know what's she was going to do before that. She could have just as easily started fleeing towards the pharmacy and started banging on the busted up doors, bringing a ton of the dead after her. And if she ever spotted Lee and Kenny she probably try chasing after them.

Way I see it, both choices carry some inherit risk.

[Riadon]

Originally Posted by Jaded X Gamer

Was no one concerned that screaming panicked woman might see Kenny and Lee and start unknowingly bringing the dead after them if she ran towards them? Or she might survive long enough to start raising dead all over Macon, fucking up possible escape routes? Or get cornered right in front of the pharmacy and her yells end up bringing more dead down upon the building?

Lotta talk about being "smart" but in retrospect, leaving her alive seemed like as much a liability as shooting her. You only see her run back the way she came after you decide to leave her, so you don't really know what's she was going to do before that. She could have just as easily started fleeing towards the pharmacy and started banging on the busted up doors, bringing a ton of the dead after her. And if she ever spotted Lee and Kenny she probably try chasing after them.

Way I see it, both choices carry some inherit risk.

A guaranteed risk versus a theoretical risk.

There is a big difference.

[Mornai]

Originally Posted by Riadon

A guaranteed risk versus a theoretical risk.

There is a big difference.

Both options are equally theoretical in risk. There is no guarantee until after the choice is made.

[vivec]

I left her. If she wasnt stupid and try to get away i would shoot her in leg and leave

[Rommel49]

Originally Posted by Jaded X Gamer

Was no one concerned that screaming panicked woman might see Kenny and Lee and start unknowingly bringing the dead after them if she ran towards them? Or she might survive long enough to start raising dead all over Macon, fucking up possible escape routes? Or get cornered right in front of the pharmacy and her yells end up bringing more dead down upon the building?

Lotta talk about being "smart" but in retrospect, leaving her alive seemed like as much a liability as shooting her. You only see her run back the way she came after you decide to leave her, so you don't really know what's she was going to do before that. She could have just as easily started fleeing towards the pharmacy and started banging on the busted up doors, bringing a ton of the dead after her. And if she ever spotted Lee and Kenny she probably try chasing after them.

Way I see it, both choices carry some inherit risk.

Not really. It's a pretty safe bet that the pack of undead chasing her had her full attention. Your average person tends to develop tunnel vision in a fight for their life scenario; situational awareness basically goes out the window. Besides, as Kenny says, her screaming will draw the walkers to her... shooting her pinpoints your position for them.

The options aren't really equal in the slightest because of that. Best case, one could claim that leaving her could somehow eventually alert the living impaired to your presence. By contrast, shooting her will alert them to your presence. She wasn't louder than a gunshot. Any undead in Macon she could attract by screaming would be attracted by gunfire.

Had the option been there to kill her quietly, it would've been a harder call (atleast for me).

[Riadon]

Originally Posted by Mornai

Both options are equally theoretical in risk. There is no guarantee until after the choice is made.

When you shoot the girl, it is guaranteed that the walkers will notice. If you don't shoot the girl, there is a chance that she MIGHT bring the walkers to you.

Guaranteed risk < Possible risk