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Old 10/06/2012, 05:57 am   #121
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I don't see how giving Clem hair ties counts as Lilly lining up to be her new mother. Lilly didn't truly CARE about anyone except Larry. That's why staying near Macon was so important. For LARRY'S heart medication. She wasn't the one who saved the group in the pharmacy in Episode 1, that was Kenny. She only cared about her father during that incident, while Kenny took charge and got almost everyone out alive. He even comes back for Lee if Lee was a complete asshole to him during the entire episode. It doesn't seem like Lilly and Kenny are all that different, but at least Kenny didn't steal the RV and leave everyone to die at the train. Lilly does that no matter what, just like Kenny saving you in Episode 1.
That's being a little simplistic; if the only priority was her dad's medication, she wouldn't have advocated staying into Episode 3, cared about stolen supplies, etc. Staying at the motel made sense for reasons other than access to drugs, like the fact it provided shelter and water (both of which trump food as a survival concern, the lack of either one will kill you far quicker). As the saying goes; in an a survival situation, there's no such thing as a perfect spot, they only exist in manuals.

Lilly did seem to genuinely care about other people, we see that she spent time with Clementine when Lee wasn't around (in Jolene's video), she was concerned after Mark was shot, and she was the one that taught the survivors how to use the weapons they found and she helped with the bandits at the start of Episode 3, etc. and while she and her dad may have been cold about how they treated outsiders, Ben did kinda prove they had a point about being completely trusting of new people.

Both Lilly and Kenny put other people at risk for their families (hell, look at a video of Vold's silent playthrough and see what happens if you don't get Kenny to stop the train )... which is actually what I'd expect, to be honest - somebody's family is (or atleast should) be their first priority, just not necessarily their only one.
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Old 10/06/2012, 09:02 am   #122
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What do you think would have happened if the bathroom walker hadn't interrupted the argument? Would Lilly have stood by and let Larry throw Duck out, even though she thought he was wrong?
Replay the scene again using the silent option or side with Larry and you'll see. The bathroom scene come that early, Katjaa says there is no bite or scratch and Larry apologizes. There is a heated argument and a fight scene only if you side with Kenny.
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Replay the scene again using the silent option or side with Larry and you'll see. The bathroom scene come that early, Katjaa says there is no bite or scratch and Larry apologizes. There is a heated argument and a fight scene only if you side with Kenny.
And if Larry grabbed Duck right away? If he had Duck by the arm, was at the door, would Lilly have done anything then? Or let a child be killed by her father so she doesn't risk upsetting him? I have never seen Lilly actually stand up to Larry, which leads me to believe she would have let him kill Duck if it had actually gone that far.
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And if Larry grabbed Duck right away? If he had Duck by the arm, was at the door, would Lilly have done anything then? Or let a child be killed by her father so she doesn't risk upsetting him? I have never seen Lilly actually stand up to Larry, which leads me to believe she would have let him kill Duck if it had actually gone that far.
This is sort of true. In a recent playthrough I remember if you stay silent during that scene, when you later on speak to Lilly she says that she 'didn't think he (Larry) was in the right' but Lee tries to reassure her by saying 'Duck could've actually been bitten' or something like that. But in all honestly, I really don't think she's as cold hearted at some people have been making her out to be.
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