TT's King's Quest: R.I.P. (aka Really Improbable Project)

[MusicallyInspired]

There's a ton more awesome tv shows that got canceled without a proper ending.

Again, as I asked you before, if you're so against a new KQ game, so over it totally, why stick around here just to bug people who aren't?

Again, stop with this stupid question.

[Anakin Skywalker]

Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

There's a ton more awesome tv shows that got canceled without a proper ending.



Again, stop with this stupid question.

Sometimes people don't just simply accept the shit ending, to be blunt. And just because new franchises are not KQ doesn't mean they'll be anywhere as good as KQ was. Nor will I likely come to love any of them as much as I came to love KQ over the course of that series.

It's really not a stupid question. You guys don't want a new KQ game, ever. You seem to look down on discussion of the old games at this point. You're "over" KQ. Why hang around?

That'd be like me saying I'm totally "over" my ex girlfriend while I'm standing outside her house every day and calling her every night, or calling her new boyfriend and telling him how shitty his relationship with her is going to be.

[Blackthorne519]

KQ games are the very definition of generic stories. It's absolutely branding love. 100%. You just want to see something with the name "King's Quest" on it, and you're so ravenous for that silly name, right now - you'd take anything that came along with that label on it, diluting the pool. Restraint is the key word here - I do not wish for some lumbering, watered-down IP name applied upon a shitty game. Which I find a likely scenario. So, yes, I wish the series would stay dormant. My cynicism is not unfounded here - it's born out of respect for something.

Why stick around? Because I love King's Quest games, and they're a part of my history. I'm old enough to also know that some things should stay dead, lest they become some demon-infested version of their former self. This is why I stick around - and again, your question is tiresome.


Bt

[BagginsKQ]

Good tv shows that end prematurely seem to get comic or novel revivals now adays... Oddly enough. Sometimes they get video game revivals...

[Anakin Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Blackthorne519

KQ games are the very definition of generic stories. It's absolutely branding love. 100%. You just want to see something with the name "King's Quest" on it, and you're so ravenous for that silly name, right now - you'd take anything that came along with that label on it, diluting the pool. Restraint is the key word here - I do not wish for some lumbering, watered-down IP name applied upon a shitty game. Which I find a likely scenario. So, yes, I wish the series would stay dormant. My cynicism is not unfounded here - it's born out of respect for something.

Why stick around? Because I love King's Quest games, and they're a part of my history. I'm old enough to also know that some things should stay dead, lest they become some demon-infested version of their former self. This is why I stick around - and again, your question is tiresome.
Bt

If KQ games are the very definition of generic stories, than "anything" could have something with the KQ label on it and be a KQ game in a true sense. Kind of a stupid point you made there. And the stories I've spoken of supporting--Akril's--are far from branding love, actually. I wouldn't take ANYTHING that came along with the name. I know what a KQ is, should and shouldn't be. We've had six great games and two games which were of either mixed or lesser quality depending on your POV.

The last two only were subpar because they were experiments, designed to meet changing game demographics and make the shareholders money. If Roberta/Sierra had wanted, they could've easily created 10 more games with the same tone, spirit and style as KQ5-6, and while it would've pleased purists, it wouldn't have pleased the shareholders in terms of sales in the mid-late 90s. But that was a different time, and the adventure genre is in a stronger position than it was then.

While I have my own reservations about new games, I don't actively hope the series stays dead because a shitty entry might come along or try to discourage those who do want another entry in the series. I have respect for the franchise, but I'm not of the 'We have to destroy this village to save it' mindset.

Jaded cynicism and always thinking the worst will happen colors so many members of your generation, and I'll never understand why.

[Blackthorne519]

Dude. We don't have to destroy the village. The village is GONE, and has been for years! No need to build a New, different village and call it the same thing!


Bt

[Anakin Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Blackthorne519

Dude. We don't have to destroy the village. The village is GONE, and has been for years! No need to build a New, different village and call it the same thing!


Bt

The ruins still stand, albeit they're decaying and are covered in moss, and can be rebuilt in good hands, but you just want to take a wrecking ball to the site to ensure that all that's left is rubble under dirt.

[MusicallyInspired]

Originally Posted by Anakin Skywalker

We've had six great games and two games which were of either mixed or lesser quality depending on your POV.

Strong words right there...

The last two only were subpar because they were experiments, designed to meet changing game demographics and make the shareholders money. If Roberta/Sierra had wanted, they could've easily created 10 more games with the same tone, spirit and style as KQ5-6, and while it would've pleased purists, it wouldn't have pleased the shareholders in terms of sales in the mid-late 90s.

More strong words, as they really didn't want to keep making the same type of adventure game.

But that was a different time, and the adventure genre is in a stronger position than it was then.

...depending on your POV.

While I have my own reservations about new games, I don't actively hope the series stays dead because a shitty entry might come along or try to discourage those who do want another entry in the series.

Exchange "might" with "will probably" and you'll be close to the truth, statistically. But go ahead and want a sequel! Nothing is stopping you! And if one comes out, go right ahead and try to enjoy it. If you do, awesome! If you don't, don't say we didn't warn you.

I have respect for the franchise, but I'm not of the 'We have to destroy this village to save it' mindset.

What about the "we should probably leave these graves alone rather than resurrect their rotting forgotten corpses". I'm not saying KQ is a terrible series nowadays (though most people would), I just don't want the same old thing too much.

Jaded cynicism and always thinking the worst will happen colors so many members of your generation, and I'll quite understand why.

Because we're old enough to realize that sometimes the same magic will just never come back. It's part nostalgia (a big slice of it, actually), part change of the times, part the same people who worked on it, part level of technology advancement....there's too many factors to get all right again. Just because it says King's Quest does not mean it's any good. What WE liked about King's Quest were these very specific formulas in all of these areas that worked together to cause lightning....lightning that probably won't strike the same way in the same level of vibrancy and excellence again.

But like I said, go ahead and want your new King's Quest.

Originally Posted by Anakin Skywalker

The ruins still stand, albeit they're decaying and are covered in moss, and can be rebuilt in good hands, but you just want to take a wrecking ball to the site to ensure that all that's left is rubble under dirt.

Hahaha. Taking a wrecking ball to the site would be like trying to erase the original series from existence and pretend they never happened. No, we respect the ruins and want to leave them standing as a testament to their longevity. Rebuilding it isn't going to make it the same.

[BagginsKQ]

If Roberta/Sierra had wanted, they could've easily created 10 more games with the same tone, spirit and style as KQ5-6, and while it would've pleased purists, it wouldn't have pleased the shareholders in terms of sales in the mid-late 90s.

While many purists might have liked that... It probably would have killed the series anyways... As it would have probably driven people away, and had poor sales... Series that stay too stagnant and do not change at all, tend to die harder...

If a game fails to bring back the money that it cost to make the game in the first place, no company in their right mind will attempt to stick to the same dead end path... They ultimately will end up trying something different... Sometimes that is taking the franchise in a new genre direction, or in a new tone, or age rating even, other times it might mean a reboot...

That tends to anger purists, but sometimes does help bring in a new audience...

BTW, keep in mind that most critics hated KQ7, and wanted the series to end on KQ6... There arguement was that KQ7 was too much of the same thing... It was not much of a change from previous games... It offered nothing new... The series as a whole had 'stagnated'... They thought KQ7 was beating a dead horse...

[Blackthorne519]

There's no ruins! There's memories and tributes set up at graves. That's it. I ain't interested in necromancy.


Bt

[MusicallyInspired]

Haha we both went in different directions with that metaphor...

Also, here's a fair observation. You're coming in here and asking these questions to KQ fans and trying to hold conversations....and we're the only ones here to reply, it seems. If there were more people who agreed with either of us they'd be here sharing their opinions too. I think the whole point on resurrecting King's Quest is moot based on that alone. If we were to "leave you" here to discuss things without "bugging" you, you'd be here all by yourselves. This forum would be dead. Which means that it is dead, because this isn't worthwhile conversation anyway.

Bottom line, you're stuck with us as we're the only ones who care one way or the other to post. At least we care. That's why we're here.

And yet, besides, I'll be gone once the new website/boards hit anyway.

[BagginsKQ]

You probably scared other people away, that might be interested in the Telltale revival...

I do notice that people tend to start bashing any newbies that join to discuss what they like about KQ, and would like to see in the 'new game'... or simply people who might have a casual interest and want to know what the new "telltale game" is about.

Seriously some of you have turned this forum and King's Quest in general into a 'good ol boys' club, and only a few can muster merit to be be allowed into its hallowed halls. If they don't give up at first sight, and try to enter, they get trounced upon until they leave or become someone's whipping boy.

[Anakin Skywalker]

Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

Bottom line, you're stuck with us as we're the only ones who care one way or the other to post. At least we care. That's why we're here.

And yet, besides, I'll be gone once the new website/boards hit anyway.

Your only care here seems to be expressing hope that another KQ game is never made, and trying to dissuade anyone else who wants one, and telling them why they're wrong to want one.

Don't you guys have the forums of those promising new franchises and games to haunt instead? Wouldn't it be a more productive use of your time to hang around those places rather than a forum about a series you're "over"?

Why not leave the optimistic KQ fans and those who want a new KQ game to themselves, even if it means that this forum would be dead?

[BagginsKQ]

Their worst nightmare is that Telltale makes a successful game, and it draws in a new generation and type of KQ fans. But those fans are fans of something different than old games... It is those new fans that control the direction of KQ for generations to come...

Kinda like old Star Trek vs. New Star Trek... Stodgy purists tend to hate the new Trek since it gave up much of what old Star Trek was like, and turned it on its head... It's eye candy, action star warsy now, simplified stories...

[Lambonius]

BAHahahahahhahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahaha!

This thread. Anakin, you kill me.

[MusicallyInspired]

Exactly, would you really want that? Depends on how good it is, I suppose. I may even be behind it if it's good enough. But again, it's just not my focus or my one single hope. And that's all I'm trying to personally do here. Just trying to help you not get your hopes up. But if that's what you want go nuts. I'm just interested in conversation and the debate really. I like talking about it because the philosophies and concepts behind the whole ordeal are stimulating, at least to me. They make you realize things you never thought of before. You have a point of view and so do I. I'm just trying to share mine and you yours. Honestly, I apologize if I sound overbearing, but then don't pretend that you don't either. You're just as passionate about your point of view as I am mine. The only one here who probably isn't is Baggins who is maddeningly neutral about everything despite the size of his endless posts here about Sierra trivia lol.

Anyway, I think the real reason there is nobody here is because there has been no news to talk about. If there were people would be here talking about it. Telltale fans love them some juicy tidbits about the next game from their favourite developer!

[Blackthorne519]

Scare away anyone? I think no news for two years did that. There has been nary a whisper for almost two years. We did not do that. You sycophants hanging on to not even a thread is more scary.


Bt

[BagginsKQ]

2 years since game announcement and about 9 months since the last announcement that they had just started working on the game.

Nothing tangible since then.

[Lambonius]

Originally Posted by BagginsKQ

2 years since game announcement and about 9 months since the last announcement that they had just started working on the game.

Nothing tangible since then.

When did they ever announce that it was even being worked on? You mean the announcement that Dave Grossman was thinking about putting a team together?

[Jennifer]

This thread's run it's course, so I'm closing it (and cleaning some of the personal insults out of the topic). There's not much more to be said on either side.

That said, please act civil to each other, and keep the personal insults out of the forum. Thanks.