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CitizenOfMelee · 07/09/2009, 12:06 am

I don't know if this has been properly said yet.. but congrats to Telltale on this one.

Never really have I been so entertained in a MI game with the facial expressions. These are the cherry on top of this game for me, and some of the most hilarious parts in the episode are a result of the great facial expressions.

I'm going through my second play-through now.. the facial expression of Guybrush when he tries to steal the bottle-breaker is hilarious.. as is his expression along with "So... unicorns huh?".

It's great, well done. Discuss.

Bloody Eugene · 07/09/2009, 12:10 am

Absolutely!!!!!
I really LOVE those facial expressions!

Congrats, Telltale!!!!

Bloody Eugene

Mad Mary · 07/09/2009, 01:58 am

There are no words for how great those facial expressions are!
When Guybrush talks to Elaine in the Intro, when he tries to steal something, when he successfully did something mischievous... just wonderful.

Pirateguybrush · 07/09/2009, 03:51 am

Agreed, some nice work on those.

LuigiHann · 07/09/2009, 12:48 pm

I agree! Great stuff

SHODANFreeman · 07/09/2009, 12:49 pm

/agree

onlyamonkey · 07/09/2009, 12:49 pm

signed, signed, signed

BeeKay84 · 07/09/2009, 12:57 pm

Well said, folks & well done, Telltale Games Team!

Huwbutts · 07/12/2009, 09:03 am

Are you freaking kidding me?! Apart from the odd line here-and-there, the characters have NO facial expression whatsoever, just a blank look while their lips move up and down!

Please, Telltale, PLEASE give the characters more facial expression during the dialogue (especially with the eyes) in the remainding episodes. It's a great game, I'm enjoying the first episode - I believe it stays true to the previous games, and this is my only gripe. But alas, for me, it is a big one. x

larys · 07/12/2009, 09:05 am

I loved the facial expression of TOMI. nice work telltlales. nice touch

Steverin0 · 07/12/2009, 09:11 am

I thought they were good too - slight concern over the amount of white used in Guybrush's eyes at time, his iris disappearing into his cheeks leaving a quite scary looking set of eyes, has to be said. Other weird thing was when characters were talking, why did they crouch/cower down a few centimetres every other second?

Not very important, just a couple of observations, it's good to talk..

*Irishmile* · 07/12/2009, 09:30 am

Its not just the faces they make, but the posture and mannerisms that go along with it, Like Guybrush rubbing the back of his neck when he is guilty, but is trying to hide it.

Or the moment at the beginning when Elaine and Guybrush looked at each other knowing the ship was about to blow up... there was a real moment where these two 3D puppets where pulling off some real dramatic acting... and the voice work really went on to sell it.

*Vainamoinen* · 07/12/2009, 09:31 am

It's only been three months since I worked myself through Gary Faigin's The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expression.

And, yes, I considered Guybrush's plethora of expressions very impressive. I assume that lots of hard work went into that, and it REALLY enhances game immersion. However, not many characters receive the same treatment Guybrush did, and remain flat; most expressions are Guybrush-only.

Nonetheless, I appreciate the effort very_very_much. It's what so many other games still lack. Get the expression engine to work with other characters as well, and you'll have at least one thing in which ToMI surpasses the previous games without doubt.

Capotasto · 07/12/2009, 09:36 am

Points for the eyebrow.

*Irishmile* · 07/12/2009, 09:37 am

Some of the other characters do have facial expressions, but of course not as many as GT.

Steverin0 · 07/12/2009, 09:38 am

To illustrate my eye thing I wrote about above, Guybrush seemed to do this a lot:

*Vainamoinen* · 07/12/2009, 09:57 am

Guybrush - and most of the other characters, too - have very high-set upper eyelids. That way, the slightest twitch of the lid-lifting muscle exposes the iris in its entirety and shows white above it, which might not occur quite as often in real life.

*Irishmile* · 07/12/2009, 10:02 am

yeah when it does the people become internet celebrities.

*Vainamoinen* · 07/12/2009, 10:06 am

My American cousin has eyes like this, with the upper lid exactly touching the upper iris rim in a resting eye position. Makes him look alert at all times - it can be irritating to people, but also, girls obviously dig this.

*Vainamoinen* · 10/02/2009, 11:47 pm

I have to bring this thread up, of course, because of Lair of the Leviathan's rather silly, but still superb face-off contest!

That sent the idea of facial animation over the top, pretty much. It was also nice to see that someone else finally sports a comparable range of emotional expression our main hero has, though focused on the "making faces"-part.

I'd really like to see what can be done with these animation options in future episodes - and other TTG games, also.

What did you think?

07/09/2009, 12:06 am	#1
CitizenOfMelee Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10	Facial Expressions Appreciation Thread I don't know if this has been properly said yet.. but congrats to Telltale on this one. Never really have I been so entertained in a MI game with the facial expressions. These are the cherry on top of this game for me, and some of the most hilarious parts in the episode are a result of the great facial expressions. I'm going through my second play-through now.. the facial expression of Guybrush when he tries to steal the bottle-breaker is hilarious.. as is his expression along with "So... unicorns huh?". It's great, well done. Discuss.

07/09/2009, 01:58 am	#3
Mad Mary Adventurer and Dreamer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dreamy Island or in Hell Posts: 157	There are no words for how great those facial expressions are! When Guybrush talks to Elaine in the Intro, when he tries to steal something, when he successfully did something mischievous... just wonderful. __________________ Eeew... a signature! I hate signatures. They shiver me timbers.

07/09/2009, 12:48 pm	#5
LuigiHann Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,687	I agree! Great stuff __________________ "I think it's the idea that counts, not the actual method. As long as you set out to cause a horrible death through insects eating the person, you're good." - apenpaap

07/12/2009, 09:30 am	#12
Irishmile The Skipping Dead Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WI, its a paradise 3 months of the year Posts: 6,542	Its not just the faces they make, but the posture and mannerisms that go along with it, Like Guybrush rubbing the back of his neck when he is guilty, but is trying to hide it. Or the moment at the beginning when Elaine and Guybrush looked at each other knowing the ship was about to blow up... there was a real moment where these two 3D puppets where pulling off some real dramatic acting... and the voice work really went on to sell it. __________________ unholy THIS! I am a community moderator, here to assist, keep the peace, and keep these boards clean and friendly for all. I am a volunteer, and not a Telltale employee, and my opinions are my own.

07/12/2009, 09:36 am	#14
Capotasto Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 48	Points for the eyebrow. __________________ MADRE DE DIOS! ES EL POLLO DIABLO!

07/09/2009, 12:10 am	#2
Bloody Eugene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 620	Absolutely!!!!! I really LOVE those facial expressions! Congrats, Telltale!!!! Bloody Eugene

07/09/2009, 03:51 am	#4
Pirateguybrush Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 221	Agreed, some nice work on those.

07/09/2009, 12:49 pm	#6
SHODANFreeman Mute Ruler of Insects Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,741	/agree

07/09/2009, 12:49 pm	#7
onlyamonkey Very Evil Monkey Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fastlane, CU Posts: 613	signed, signed, signed

07/09/2009, 12:57 pm	#8
BeeKay84 fights like a cow Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Freilassing, Germany Posts: 382	Well said, folks & well done, Telltale Games Team!

07/12/2009, 09:03 am	#9
Huwbutts Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4	Are you freaking kidding me?! Apart from the odd line here-and-there, the characters have NO facial expression whatsoever, just a blank look while their lips move up and down! Please, Telltale, PLEASE give the characters more facial expression during the dialogue (especially with the eyes) in the remainding episodes. It's a great game, I'm enjoying the first episode - I believe it stays true to the previous games, and this is my only gripe. But alas, for me, it is a big one. x

07/12/2009, 09:05 am	#10
larys Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cyprus Posts: 157	I loved the facial expression of TOMI. nice work telltlales. nice touch

07/12/2009, 09:11 am	#11
Steverin0 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 135	I thought they were good too - slight concern over the amount of white used in Guybrush's eyes at time, his iris disappearing into his cheeks leaving a quite scary looking set of eyes, has to be said. Other weird thing was when characters were talking, why did they crouch/cower down a few centimetres every other second? Not very important, just a couple of observations, it's good to talk..

07/12/2009, 09:31 am	#13
Vainamoinen Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,837	It's only been three months since I worked myself through Gary Faigin's The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expression. And, yes, I considered Guybrush's plethora of expressions very impressive. I assume that lots of hard work went into that, and it REALLY enhances game immersion. However, not many characters receive the same treatment Guybrush did, and remain flat; most expressions are Guybrush-only. Nonetheless, I appreciate the effort very_very_much. It's what so many other games still lack. Get the expression engine to work with other characters as well, and you'll have at least one thing in which ToMI surpasses the previous games without doubt.

07/12/2009, 09:37 am	#15
Irishmile The Skipping Dead Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WI, its a paradise 3 months of the year Posts: 6,542	Some of the other characters do have facial expressions, but of course not as many as GT. __________________ unholy THIS! I am a community moderator, here to assist, keep the peace, and keep these boards clean and friendly for all. I am a volunteer, and not a Telltale employee, and my opinions are my own.

07/12/2009, 09:38 am	#16
Steverin0 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 135	To illustrate my eye thing I wrote about above, Guybrush seemed to do this a lot:

07/12/2009, 09:57 am	#17
Vainamoinen Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,837	Guybrush - and most of the other characters, too - have very high-set upper eyelids. That way, the slightest twitch of the lid-lifting muscle exposes the iris in its entirety and shows white above it, which might not occur quite as often in real life. Last edited by Vainamoinen; 07/12/2009 at 10:00 am.

07/12/2009, 10:02 am	#18
Irishmile The Skipping Dead Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WI, its a paradise 3 months of the year Posts: 6,542	yeah when it does the people become internet celebrities. __________________ unholy THIS! I am a community moderator, here to assist, keep the peace, and keep these boards clean and friendly for all. I am a volunteer, and not a Telltale employee, and my opinions are my own.

07/12/2009, 10:06 am	#19
Vainamoinen Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,837	My American cousin has eyes like this, with the upper lid exactly touching the upper iris rim in a resting eye position. Makes him look alert at all times - it can be irritating to people, but also, girls obviously dig this.

10/02/2009, 11:47 pm	#20
Vainamoinen Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,837	I have to bring this thread up, of course, because of Lair of the Leviathan's rather silly, but still superb face-off contest! That sent the idea of facial animation over the top, pretty much. It was also nice to see that someone else finally sports a comparable range of emotional expression our main hero has, though focused on the "making faces"-part. I'd really like to see what can be done with these animation options in future episodes - and other TTG games, also. What did you think?

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