Whats your take on ending message of MI:SE?

[Ignatius]

Im probably one of the few people who is against this whole SE thing.

I feel so alone.

-Do you really need a special edition of LeChuck Revenge and all the calssics?
-Dont you love them just the way they are in all their vintage and pixelated glory?
-Wouldnt it be much better to encourage LucasArts to make new adventures instead of doing new "Special Editions"?
-Are you happy when hollywood makes remake after remake of classic movies?
-Would you be thrilled if George Lucas decides to make a "Special Edition" of Raiders Of The Lost Ark with improved special effects?
-Would you encourage him to make the same with the rest of the movies?

[thin029]

Originally Posted by Ignatius

-Do you really need a special edition of LeChuck Revenge and all the calssics?

Yes.

[stemot]

Originally Posted by Ignatius

Im probably one of the few people who is against this whole SE thing.

I feel so alone.

Originally Posted by Ignatius

-Do you really need a special edition of LeChuck Revenge and all the calssics?
-Dont you love them just the way they are in all their vintage and pixelated glory?

I do love the old ones, but on current HD monitors they look like crud and take up only a small portion of the screen. The SE edition graphics are faithful to the original and still fit the mood of the game so what's the problem?

Originally Posted by Ignatius

-Wouldnt it be much better to encourage LucasArts to make new adventures instead of doing new "Special Editions"?

Last time I checked they had an episodic follow up to Monkey Island on the go as well.

Originally Posted by Ignatius

-Are you happy when hollywood makes remake after remake of classic movies?
-Would you be thrilled if George Lucas decides to make a "Special Edition" of Raiders Of The Lost Ark with improved special effects?
-Would you encourage him to make the same with the rest of the movies?

This comparisons have nothing to do with what is essentially exactly the same game with HD graphics. Movie remakes always change story aspects and cut scenes from the originals or replace them with something else and are mostly never faithful to the original.

[PariahKing]

Special Editions need to exist so a modern audience can appreciate them. People I've shown MI1 to always balk and don't want to play it.

However they're actually more likely to want to play Escape simply due to the voice over, music and although blocky recognizable graphics.

[plrichard]

Originally Posted by Tacobob

Loom: Extended Version.

That needs to happen.

Also, I just wish we could have the new sounds with the old graphics. I'd love to have the new music and the voice-overs with the old pixels.

[Ignatius]

Originally Posted by PariahKing

Special Editions need to exist so a modern audience can appreciate them.

Yes! but what makes me sad is that instead of take advantage of this moment where LucasArts seems to be interested again on adventures games, the fanbase is more worried about new special editions that on new adventures.

"Modern audiences" and marketing people should be the ones claiming for SE. The fanbase should be trying to persue more creative ways. (IMO)

[Mad Mary]

Originally Posted by plrichard

Also, I just wish we could have the new sounds with the old graphics. I'd love to have the new music and the voice-overs with the old pixels.

Me, too.

[PariahKing]

Originally Posted by Ignatius

Yes! but what makes me sad is that instead of take advantage of this moment where LucasArts seems to be interested again on adventures games, the fanbase is more worried about new special editions that on new adventures.

"Modern audiences" and marketing people should be the ones claiming for SE. The fanbase should be trying to persue more creative ways. (IMO)

For LucasArts it makes more sense to re-establish a fan base and suck back in old followers with remakes of their great but dated games. I enjoy the SEs and see them as a transitional step toward LucasArts licensing their old IPs and making real sequels or new original IPs. They are making some kind of side scrolling puzzle game for XBox 360 Arcade.

So here I think you can have your cake and eat it too. Besides some of those games are REALLY dated. I have a hard time playing Zak McKraken with 12 verbs.

[TookiGuy]

Wouldn't you guys rather see LA letting Telltale do the new games? I would. For those of you who don't know, most of the people at Telltale are the ones who were responsible for the originals (consequently, changing some of us forever.)

[mintfresh]

I think it can only mean one thing, Guybrush Threepwood will return!

We can only dream that it will be in a whole new game .... oh wait, we allready have TOMI.

Or maybe it means on the iPhone....

Hope it means more remakes and further Monkey Island games.

Heres a pic of the classic ending of MI that I posted before when waiting for TOMI to come out

http://twitpic.com/9jkjb

[turingmachine604]

Originally Posted by Ignatius

Im probably one of the few people who is against this whole SE thing.

I feel so alone.

-Do you really need a special edition of LeChuck Revenge and all the calssics?
-Dont you love them just the way they are in all their vintage and pixelated glory?
-Wouldnt it be much better to encourage LucasArts to make new adventures instead of doing new "Special Editions"?
-Are you happy when hollywood makes remake after remake of classic movies?
-Would you be thrilled if George Lucas decides to make a "Special Edition" of Raiders Of The Lost Ark with improved special effects?
-Would you encourage him to make the same with the rest of the movies?

I completely agree.

[TookiGuy]

Hell yes - Old graphics with new sound. Another petition!

[Novotnus]

Originally Posted by werpu

Well the interviews you can find on the net speak a lot for themselves. This guy came from EA and he only knew as business model to milk franchises which EA successfully did at that time.

He went for a low risk strategy, the problem with this is, that if you do that this wears thin after a few years, Star Wars held longer than I expected especially if you turn out games in mass production milking it over and over again.

Don't take me wrong - I love Star Wars. X-wing and Rebel Assault were the games that introduced me LucasArts and made me buy Monkey Island games. Dark Forces, Jedi Kningt and Mysteries of the Sith weren't bad, too. And KotOR 2 was great (sooo Planescape:Torment-like).
Only thing is that something was missing in those games during Ward's rule. That bound between the company and a gamer, which's present in TellTale games.

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Ignatius

-Do you really need a special edition of LeChuck Revenge and all the calssics?

Need? Not particularly. But it's pretty and looks nice on my HD TV, when I don't have my floppies or a computer that they look nice on anymore.

It doesn't replace my beloved original, and I'm sure I'll play through it again, but this is a nice distraction. A reason to refresh myself in Monkey goodness, and a step in the right direction for LucasArts.

Special Editions are better than a decade of nothing.

-Dont you love them just the way they are in all their vintage and pixelated glory?

Yes. But these are nice too. It's a nice refresher course for an old classic. And the music just sounds excellent.

-Wouldnt it be much better to encourage LucasArts to make new adventures instead of doing new "Special Editions"?

But we are getting a new adventure through Tales. They're licensing that IP out to capable hands, and it's working out well for Monkey Island so far. I'd like to see them continue this, but how much do you really expect them to do at once? Besides, this is the lowest cost option for them right now to test the adventure game waters.

-Are you happy when hollywood makes remake after remake of classic movies?

Generally not. But I did like the Star Trek series remaster, which redid effects and the opening music and cleaned up the picture, making the original series look nicer while remaining totally faithful to the source material.

-Would you be thrilled if George Lucas decides to make a "Special Edition" of Raiders Of The Lost Ark with improved special effects?
-Would you encourage him to make the same with the rest of the movies?

George Lucas should have his franchises taken away. He should be told to sit in the corner and think about what he's done. He should stay in that corner until he promises to play nice with Mr. Gary Kurtz.

[wefeelgroove]

Whoops, Rather Dashing beat me too it I see.

Anyway, just think of all the people who have never played Secret before and now it's widely available for them. That wouldn't have been possible if Lucasarts just kept sitting on it forever.

I'm not usually a fan of remakes/reissues, but I like what they did with the Special Edition. They didn't make any unecessary changes to the original, they just gave us that + tons of shiny new stuff that feels like a tribute to it rather than an updated replacement.

[PirateUnwritten]

I dont really see how special editions with improved graphics etc can be a problem, even for you die hard monkey island fans.
I mean, the old games wont disappear just because they decide to make new ones


The old Secret of monkey island version was good then, but i think its fair that they keep doing the SE thingy to attract new customers. I tried the F10 button while playing the SE and boy does the old game look bad.

[turingmachine604]

I have no problems with the SE, I just think they're not as needed as some people on the forums make them out to be.

However, I would love to see an update to MI 2. People that complain need to realize even the SoMI that most people played was a remake. There was a huge update between the initial EGA release and the enhanced VGA release that followed shortly after. Not only in graphics (both background and having a graphical inventory) but cutting down the verb list from 12 to 9. The current SE is no different than that update.

In regards to the SE, however, I do think if they are to remake MI 2 they should refine the interface a bit more. There were times were using the SE interface was downright clunky and it was easier to switch to the classic view (like the grog and melting cups sequence). Additionally, some of the new art didn't match up with the old art causing some weird detection areas. If they can iron out these problems, then I'm all for it. Also, it would be a nice option to be able to use the new sound with the older graphics.

[TookiGuy]

^ Though seriously, do you really NEED to update the graphics on MI2? I honestly like them the way they are. They're perfect for the game, and unlike SMI, they stand the test of time. SMI was drawn with a mouse, while most of the stuff in MI2 was painted on paper, and scanned. I mean, if people hate the aspect ratio correcting black bars on the side that bad, then they can always feel free to add a "widescreen" option that stretches the image. I'm gonna start a poll.

[Dan2593]

Originally Posted by Ignatius

-Do you really need a special edition of LeChuck Revenge and all the calssics?
-Dont you love them just the way they are in all their vintage and pixelated glory?
-Wouldnt it be much better to encourage LucasArts to make new adventures instead of doing new "Special Editions"?
-Are you happy when hollywood makes remake after remake of classic movies?
-Would you be thrilled if George Lucas decides to make a "Special Edition" of Raiders Of The Lost Ark with improved special effects?
-Would you encourage him to make the same with the rest of the movies?

It doesn't hurt to have a special edition. And if you like them vintage don't buy it? Stick with the original? Or buy the special edition and just press the button to change the graphics.

Originally Posted by Ignatius

-Wouldnt it be much better to encourage LucasArts to make new adventures instead of doing new "Special Editions"?

Not their market. Telltale make the point and clicks now. LucasArts are looked at for Star Wars. Sighn of the times. To be honest the only reason Monkey Island: SE is selling is because its more user friendly on newcomers.

Originally Posted by Ignatius

-Are you happy when hollywood makes remake after remake of classic movies?
-Would you be thrilled if George Lucas decides to make a "Special Edition" of Raiders Of The Lost Ark with improved special effects?
-Would you encourage him to make the same with the rest of the movies?

He did. DVD box set with new effects. And yes I would. So he did.
And Remakes are fine when done well. Star Trek works beautifully. So does the Doctor Who reboot. War Of the Worlds. Day the Earth Stood Still. every single batman film. Spider man films. Star Wars prequels. Indiana Jones sequels. Pirates of the carabian Your so called "classics" are remakes. Everything in Hollywood is.

Honestly SE is just new stuff on an old classic. Its 100% loyal. A press of the button will take you to your old faviroute if you want.

It annoys me when fans whine about something they are apparently a fan of.
Left4Dead 2 is hated because its more or less the same. People still worked hard on that. Had sleepless nights over it.

Same with Monkey Island: SE. People lost sleep and nights over this. If you don't get it. You loose nothing. If you get it. You gain everything.

[Dan2593]

Originally Posted by TookiGuy

^ Though seriously, do you really NEED to update the graphics on MI2? I honestly like them the way they are. They're perfect for the game, and unlike SMI, they stand the test of time. SMI was drawn with a mouse, while most of the stuff in MI2 was painted on paper, and scanned. I mean, if people hate the aspect ratio correcting black bars on the side that bad, then they can always feel free to add a "widescreen" option that stretches the image. I'm gonna start a poll.

I bought MI3 with MI1 and MI2. I was a kid and I will say this as part of the new generation who Lucas aim to sell to. I couldn't stand MI2. Their was so much going on. At the time it was beautiful but to a younger generation. It gave me headaches. In the end I looked up a guide so I could just see how the story went. And if you don't want the updated isn't that the point of switching with a button?