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ivan11111 · 07/18/2009, 03:14 am

I was thinking: CoMI, EfMI and ToMI have all started on a ship. Obviously this is a tactic to limit the different options and keep the opening puzzle nice and easy, but I think it is a nice touch. It keeps things exciting, keeps it piratey and gives continuity.
Looks like ToMI episode two will also start on a ship. Is this how things will work from now on?

Megaloman · 07/18/2009, 04:05 am

You never know, but it's a good way to start an adventure. Gives me the feeling that the adventure can take place anywhere.

Rather Dashing · 07/18/2009, 04:08 am

I think it'd be nice to get a Secret of Monkey Island-style opening, with a vague goal and a nudge in the right direction.

...actually, now that I think about it, that's basically what once we hit Flotsam.

Spadge · 07/18/2009, 05:07 am

In the old games, this is sort of a tutorial for the player, so you'd get used to the controls and the interface.

As for TMI, filesize is important, so Telltale are using a simple, yet elegant trick. The ship scene acts like a neutral ground. This way there's no need to show the old island in the new game or the new island in the old game, thus saving valuable game size.

Actually I don't mind, as long as it's done well. This is a pirate game after all.

KEBSD · 07/18/2009, 07:57 am

I'm not sure if you can call a bumper car a boat... o_o

Rather Dashing · 07/18/2009, 08:00 am

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Originally Posted by KEBSD

I'm not sure if you can call a bumper car a boat... o_o

Er, I think they meant the ship you end up on *after* the bumper car sequence. You know, the first playable portion of the game?

*Irishmile* · 07/18/2009, 08:02 am

I think he/she was talking about being in Lechuck's ship as soon as you get control of Guybrush, you know with Wally or "Blood nose".

KEBSD · 07/18/2009, 08:03 am

Ahh, okay!

smashing · 07/18/2009, 08:10 am

Hey! At least starting from a ship is way better than the scores of games that start with the protagonist in a closed room or waking up from a bed.

*Irishmile* · 07/18/2009, 08:19 am

With no memory of who they are?

smashing · 07/18/2009, 08:23 am

Yup, and usually with false hope that they will become somebody.

*edit: somebody important, like a Mighty Pirate (TM)

Shmeh · 07/18/2009, 10:48 am

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Originally Posted by smashing

Hey! At least starting from a ship is way better than the scores of games that start with the protagonist in a closed room or waking up from a bed.

I don't remember GT having a sword (maybe I should check before posting.....nah) at the end of Ep.1. The "voice" might put him in a cell, so Ep.2 could start with GT waking up from a bed in a closed room.

smashing · 07/18/2009, 12:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Shmeh

I don't remember GT having a sword (maybe I should check before posting.....nah) at the end of Ep.1. The "voice" might put him in a cell, so Ep.2 could start with GT waking up from a bed in a closed room.

Why would a sword make any difference for Guybrush? And if you need to throw someone in a cell, do you actually need a reason?

Anyway, as much as these cliche sucks, it is one of the most logical ways to introduce the gamers to the gameplay. Can you imagine allowing players to explore everywhere, without a gradual learning curve before the more difficult puzzle set in?

From a pure story-telling point of view, you have to start from the humblest of beginning, so that you can slowly build up to a unforgettable climax in the middle. Good adventure and role-playing games (MMO excluded) are stuck with these cliches, since story-telling is important. Planescape: Torment and KOTOR were good because of the strong story element. and they each start off with humble closed room beginning.

ivan11111 · 07/18/2009, 01:35 pm

Yeah I totally agree, and I understand why they did this. I just think it's a nice tradition: perhaps they should carry it on!

Ash735 · 07/18/2009, 05:13 pm

If you wanna keep tradition, All Monkey Island games (Except Escape) have started at Night too.

Shmeh · 07/19/2009, 04:54 am

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Originally Posted by smashing

Why would a sword make any difference for Guybrush? And if you need to throw someone in a cell, do you actually need a reason?

The point about the sword was that he had nothing to defend himself with so he is already "captured". The post was just a throw away joke though, so it doesn't matter in the slightest.

Bruno83 · 07/19/2009, 06:29 am

I guess leaving an island is a good point at starting a new chapter.

smashing · 07/19/2009, 07:24 am

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Originally Posted by Shmeh

The point about the sword was that he had nothing to defend himself with so he is already "captured". The post was just a throw away joke though, so it doesn't matter in the slightest.

I got the joke dear. Just pointing out that it might've been funnier if Guybrush is fully equipped with all kind of latest technology (like the De Singe's gun) and still gotten captured at sword-point.

smashing · 07/19/2009, 07:25 am

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Originally Posted by Bruno83

I guess leaving an island is a good point at starting a new chapter.

It might be the case. But heading to a new island at the start of every single chapter will end up to be kinda a bore too...

Bruno83 · 07/19/2009, 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by smashing

It might be the case. But heading to a new island at the start of every single chapter will end up to be kinda a bore too...

I dunno, I'd like a completely new invironment for every chapter.
But I wouldn't mind going back to some islands later.
It doesn't alsways have to start on a ship though.

07/18/2009, 03:14 am	#1
ivan11111 Mighty Pirate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 178	Starting on a Ship I was thinking: CoMI, EfMI and ToMI have all started on a ship. Obviously this is a tactic to limit the different options and keep the opening puzzle nice and easy, but I think it is a nice touch. It keeps things exciting, keeps it piratey and gives continuity. Looks like ToMI episode two will also start on a ship. Is this how things will work from now on?

07/18/2009, 08:10 am	#9
smashing Angels Fan Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 424	Hey! At least starting from a ship is way better than the scores of games that start with the protagonist in a closed room or waking up from a bed. __________________ Twittering away while gaming. Currently playing: Mata Hari

07/18/2009, 08:23 am	#11
smashing Angels Fan Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 424	Yup, and usually with false hope that they will become somebody. *edit: somebody important, like a Mighty Pirate (TM) __________________ Twittering away while gaming. Currently playing: Mata Hari

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07/18/2009, 04:05 am	#2
Megaloman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern Sweden Posts: 188	You never know, but it's a good way to start an adventure. Gives me the feeling that the adventure can take place anywhere.

07/18/2009, 04:08 am	#3
Rather Dashing Throw Baby Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,883	I think it'd be nice to get a Secret of Monkey Island-style opening, with a vague goal and a nudge in the right direction. ...actually, now that I think about it, that's basically what once we hit Flotsam.

07/18/2009, 05:07 am	#4
Spadge Not a Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 838	In the old games, this is sort of a tutorial for the player, so you'd get used to the controls and the interface. As for TMI, filesize is important, so Telltale are using a simple, yet elegant trick. The ship scene acts like a neutral ground. This way there's no need to show the old island in the new game or the new island in the old game, thus saving valuable game size. Actually I don't mind, as long as it's done well. This is a pirate game after all.

07/18/2009, 07:57 am	#5
KEBSD Was chosen over an anchor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wouldn't you like to know... Posts: 147	I'm not sure if you can call a bumper car a boat... o_o

07/18/2009, 08:02 am	#7
Irishmile The Skipping Dead Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WI, its a paradise 3 months of the year Posts: 6,542	I think he/she was talking about being in Lechuck's ship as soon as you get control of Guybrush, you know with Wally or "Blood nose".

07/18/2009, 08:03 am	#8
KEBSD Was chosen over an anchor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wouldn't you like to know... Posts: 147	Ahh, okay!

07/18/2009, 08:19 am	#10
Irishmile The Skipping Dead Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WI, its a paradise 3 months of the year Posts: 6,542	With no memory of who they are?

07/18/2009, 01:35 pm	#14
ivan11111 Mighty Pirate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 178	Yeah I totally agree, and I understand why they did this. I just think it's a nice tradition: perhaps they should carry it on!

07/18/2009, 05:13 pm	#15
Ash735 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,152	If you wanna keep tradition, All Monkey Island games (Except Escape) have started at Night too.

07/19/2009, 06:29 am	#17
Bruno83 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 239	I guess leaving an island is a good point at starting a new chapter.