Tarot cards as collectable ?

[Whitheaven]

May we dream about the putting on sale of Tarot cards like we can see in the wallpaper which is won with "Treasure Hunt" ?

[Spadge]

We can all dream. Those cards are just awesome!

[SHODANFreeman]

That would be cool, but as has been said several times, there are complications with producing merch for Monkey Island, as Lucasarts own the rights to it.

[Arodin]

AAAHH! DEATH!!!

[Rather Dashing]

The cards in the Treasure Hunt Wallpaper are simply AMAZING. My main issue with that wallpaper is the Voodoo Lady, actually. Don't get me wrong, the model is GREAT in-game. But I think there is a bit of a stylistic clash between the cards and the Voodoo Lady herself.

And to be truly on-topic, having those voodoo cards in the store or as a bonus in something like the Sam and Max Case File would be awesome.

[Duster W.]

Originally Posted by Pale Man

That would be cool, but as has been said several times, there are complications with producing merch for Monkey Island, as Lucasarts own the rights to it.

Arrr, get your swords and let us take away this license from LucasArts!

Seriously, I have nothing against LucasArts and they are doing some new MI stuff right now (Special Edition, Merchandise), but I think Monkey Island would have a much brighter future here at Telltale than at LucasArts.
Even if LA decides to do a completly new Monkey Island game after the success of Tales (at least I hope it'll be a huuuge success), the real masterminds are here, not there.

To say something more on-topic: Yeah, those cards would be nice, as would any MI merchandise.

[PariahKing]

I at least hope for a poster.

[Javi-Wan Kenobi]

Maybe I'm saying something stupid, but the artists who did the designs for these tarot cards are Telltale staff, right?
So I think you should be able to sell these card on your store if there's no explicit Monkey Island reference on them (even if WE know they are Monke Island-related)

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Javi-Wan Kenobi

Maybe I'm saying something stupid, but the artists who did the designs for these tarot cards are Telltale staff, right?
So I think you should be able to sell these card on your store if there's no explicit Monkey Island reference on them (even if WE know they are Monke Island-related)

They were created for the Monkey Island franchise under license from LucasArts. I'm not sure if it falls under "commission work" or how it is legally defined, but I'm pretty sure that they couldn't sell merchandise related to the game without LucasArts approval.

Whatever the case, I know it's not as simple as walking up to Steve Purcell and saying "Hey, do you think this is cool?"

[sladerlmc77]

I'm curious...do we have any official confirmation anywhere that Telltale only got the rights to produce the series, and not merchandise related to the series?

I've heard lots of people speculate that that is the case, but I haven't seen anything anywhere to confirm it.

It just seems odd that they would restrict the licensing to the software product only, especially when ancillary products could be used for purposes of cross-promotion.



Lorn

[dumpling321]

if they couldn't sell them maybe they could later in the season make a printable set of the tarot cards as a prize for the treasure hunt or something...

[Maratanos]

I would completely buy a deck.

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by sladerlmc77

It just seems odd that they would restrict the licensing to the software product only

Not really, when Lucasarts can maintain merchandising rights themselves, make their own merch, and take in ALL the profit and not have to give TTG a cut of it.

[dumpling321]

on another note...i've never heard of tarot cards being used in voodoo? I thought they used bones and stuff like that to predict the future... my mother hasn't ever heard of tarot cards being used in voodoo either and she lived in haiti for 15 years...

[Irishmile]

I don't think they are technically but she is an expert in all things occult.

[sladerlmc77]

Not really, when Lucasarts can maintain merchandising rights themselves, make their own merch, and take in ALL the profit and not have to give TTG a cut of it.

I suppose I phrased that poorly. What I should've said was, "As the publisher, I'm surprised that Telltale agreed to a deal in which they would write, design, and publish the series without also getting at least temporary merchandising rights into the deal."

That would seem to me to be pretty standard for any company. As valuable as the Monkey Island IP is, as a publisher I wouldn't consider producing anything in any kind of a licensing deal unless some limited merchandising rights came with it.


Lorn

[turingmachine604]

Originally Posted by dumpling321

on another note...i've never heard of tarot cards being used in voodoo?

Technically they're not as Tarot cards originated in Europe around the 14th century (as a playing card game) and then weren't adapted for divination till the 18th century in Switzerland.

Voodoo, on the other had originated from the various African religions, most notably Vodun.

So the two are from completely different occult traditions. However, with that being said modern mysticism tends to draw from multiple sources, and Voodoo itself has a long history of amalgamating different traditions (particularly Christianity). Still, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any traditional Voodoo practitioners in the Caribbean (particularly during pirate times when it was only just emerging for divination in Europe) using tarot. Voodoo as it continued into New Orleans most likely adapted and to an extent used tarot.

Also: what's in the wallpaper technically aren't Tarot cards as the examples aren't any of the Major Arcana - the 22 major cards people usually think of when they think of tarot - and some would be hard pressed to line up with the traditional cards, needing an almost total re-design. Plus, I doubt they'd illustrate the 56 Minor Arcana, which would be pretty lame for a Tarot deck.

[dumpling321]

Originally Posted by turingmachine604

Technically they're not as Tarot cards originated in Europe around the 14th century (as a playing card game) and then weren't adapted for divination till the 18th century in Switzerland.

Voodoo, on the other had originated from the various African religions, most notably Vodun.

So the two are from completely different occult traditions. However, with that being said modern mysticism tends to draw from multiple sources, and Voodoo itself has a long history of amalgamating different traditions (particularly Christianity). Still, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any traditional Voodoo practitioners in the Caribbean (particularly during pirate times when it was only just emerging for divination in Europe) using tarot. Voodoo as it continued into New Orleans most likely adapted and to an extent used tarot.

Also: what's in the wallpaper technically aren't Tarot cards as the examples aren't any of the Major Arcana - the 22 major cards people usually think of when they think of tarot - and some would be hard pressed to line up with the traditional cards, needing an almost total re-design. Plus, I doubt they'd illustrate the 56 Minor Arcana, which would be pretty lame for a Tarot deck.

thats awsome xD i always LOVE to learn useless facts that i can pull out randomly in conversation xD

[octochan]

I knew those didn't correspond to any real tarot cards out there, but it's Monkey Island! They can invent their own deck! Cardcaptor Sakura did.

Oh, and HELLS YEAH for real life ones. At the very least, can we get them in the season's case file, or bag o' souvenirs from the Gulf of Mélange, or whatever they want to call it? Pretty please?

[Toothless Gibbon]

Originally Posted by PariahKing

I at least hope for a poster.

Here you go.