Telltale Games

McMasters · 08/21/2009, 07:01 pm

There are a number of simple, simple grammar and spelling mistakes that really make me feel like this game is a rush job. I'm a huge fan, and the game itself is great, but why is it that small game companies always seem to skimp on the QA?

burry, (bury)
'tactition', (tactician)
multiple your / you're mistakes,
an it's / its flop,
and more than one missing period.

Whoever you have on the checking of the subtitles, I'll be honest - you probably pay them more than to just run spellcheck and say it's good. Some you can handwave away with 'that is how they say it', but the rest is sloppy.

I want to see you guys do well, and get more great licenses to reimagine. Little things like this will help, I'm sure.

jp-30 · 08/21/2009, 07:03 pm

I saw lots of typos in the review copy. Had hoped they'd be fixed for the general release. It really is distracting

hplikelike · 08/21/2009, 07:19 pm

At least it's on time, and we didn't have to wait all day like the first game. Also, turning subtitles off solves it. But, yeah, they could have done better.

McMasters · 08/21/2009, 07:20 pm

There's even a double-space in the "You're bluffing!" dialogue choice in the last conversation of the episode - two spaces in-between two words in the middle of a sentence instead of one. Bah! I know I'm picky, but there is a fine line, you know?

I'll give the dialogue a run-through for the next episode, no charge, if you want.

Just give me a thanks, or heck, even put my pets in the pets section. They're sitting right here, I'm sure they'd love it!

Avistew · 08/21/2009, 07:26 pm

Well they do have a timeline.
And typos can just slip past people.

What matters is that now, lots of people on the forum have mentionned them and hopefully the text will be fixed accordingly.

SHODANFreeman · 08/21/2009, 07:30 pm

Yeah, the spelling errors are fairly irritating.

Slanzinger · 08/22/2009, 04:09 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by hplikelike

Also, turning subtitles off solves it. But, yeah, they could have done better.

a) Not great advice for people who have to have subtitles on
b) Having played the originals, a P&C game (especially Monkey Island) just doesn't feel right without reading the speech as well.

*Vainamoinen* · 08/22/2009, 04:17 am

Aye, I was appalled by the spelling mistakes too - as a German (who, granted, studied English)!

Examples:
After LeCuck's fight with the pirates:
"I suppose your right, Guybrush"

Final scene:
"Make you wonder..." instead of "Makes you wonder..."

Also, the subtitles don't settle for a coherent spelling of "Vacaylians". Sometimes it's just "Vacalians".

Seriously. Get that fixed, Telltale! I really don't consider this a "little thing", as McMasters does.

Avistew · 08/22/2009, 04:29 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slanzinger

a) Not great advice for people who have to have subtitles on
b) Having played the originals, a P&C game (especially Monkey Island) just doesn't feel right without reading the speech as well.

c) that doesn't work for the fish joke, which isn't a subtitle

dzamir · 08/22/2009, 04:43 am

We are talkin' bout a game of pirates, ya know? Pirates can't speech well, so subtitles are perfect!
HAR HAR HAR!

chef · 08/22/2009, 06:01 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by avistew

Well they do have a timeline.
And typos can just slip past people.

What matters is that now, lots of people on the forum have mentionned them and hopefully the text will be fixed accordingly.

I wouldn't count these as just a few typos, since they've increased in number compared to the last episode, and unless I'm mistaken, the script must have been shorter for this episode too. It's also not just spelling, but grammar, formatting, and punctuation too, and frequent enough that I'm reminded of the questionable copy editing less than 5 minutes after trying to forget about the last mistake.

Add to this the fact that odd event issues remain, like examining a cannon after specific events have occurred giving you a description that no longer makes sense and being able to get an item twice, and I just get the feeling that quality control needs work in parts.

We can report all the problems as we see them, but it's frustrating because this is what should have been done by QA before it reached us in the first place. The first round of customer playthroughs should not be relied upon as a stage of the QA process.

Avistew · 08/22/2009, 06:08 am

True, but that's what a horde of angry fans demanding the game be released NAO can do :P

I'm just saying, if you want to make sure it's polished, with no bugs like that an no spelling mistakes, you might have to be ready to wait more than a month between episodes.

Haggis · 08/22/2009, 07:00 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by avistew

I'm just saying, if you want to make sure it's polished, with no bugs like that an no spelling mistakes, you might have to be ready to wait more than a month between episodes.

Checking the script for spelling and grammar errors shouldn't take that long... and the fans are even willing to do it for free (me included)! See:

Quote:

Originally Posted by McMasters

I'll give the dialogue a run-through for the next episode, no charge, if you want.

McMasters · 08/22/2009, 11:03 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by avistew

I'm just saying, if you want to make sure it's polished, with no bugs like that an no spelling mistakes, you might have to be ready to wait more than a month between episodes.

A month? for script reading?

I, and everyone here, caught these on the first playthrough.

The first.

There are a dozen QA / playtesters in the credits. Come on, now.

Harpalyce · 08/22/2009, 11:33 am

I think this is a good time for a small interlude.

Dear Telltale,

I would like to mention that I am always available to be hired for proofreading. I can work remotely by telecommuting quite easily and charge the reasonable rate of 10-12 dollars an hour.

Yours fondly,
Harpalyce

P.S. I do have my resume right here...

Frogacuda · 08/22/2009, 11:54 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen

Also, the subtitles don't settle for a coherent spelling of "Vacaylians". Sometimes it's just "Vacalians".

This bugged me because I didn't know what to call them in my review. In the review copy they also called them Vaycalians sometimes.

bugzbunny90 · 08/22/2009, 12:55 pm

its not typo or grammar mistakes ..its pirate lingo ...maybe

meander · 08/22/2009, 02:46 pm

I think the subtitles need to be done better for future episodes too... one or two mistakes is understandable, but this many makes me think Telltale simply forgot to proofread.

I'd also happily volunteer to help with proofreading, as a member of the New Zealand Apostrophe Protection Society

And no, wouldn't mind waiting an extra day or two to have it done properly in the future episodes... I love Monkey Island, but after waiting 9 years a matter of hours isn't really too important to me.

*Vainamoinen* · 09/26/2009, 03:02 am

Expecting: "Tails uf Munky Iland - Lear of teh Mannetea"

I must bring this thread up now, with episode 3 approaching and no official word whatsoever about fixing the spelling situation. Will there be professional spellchecking this time!? Or will the subtitles at least be written by someone who wouldn't make such hideous basic mistakes this time?

Lennie Melvin · 09/26/2009, 03:15 am

Also bury/burry

08/21/2009, 07:01 pm	#1
McMasters Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 17	Multiple spelling / grammar mistakes in Ep. 2 - come on, Telltale! There are a number of simple, simple grammar and spelling mistakes that really make me feel like this game is a rush job. I'm a huge fan, and the game itself is great, but why is it that small game companies always seem to skimp on the QA? burry, (bury) 'tactition', (tactician) multiple your / you're mistakes, an it's / its flop, and more than one missing period. Whoever you have on the checking of the subtitles, I'll be honest - you probably pay them more than to just run spellcheck and say it's good. Some you can handwave away with 'that is how they say it', but the rest is sloppy. I want to see you guys do well, and get more great licenses to reimagine. Little things like this will help, I'm sure.

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08/21/2009, 07:03 pm	#2
jp-30 Lint Miner Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,735	I saw lots of typos in the review copy. Had hoped they'd be fixed for the general release. It really is distracting

08/21/2009, 07:19 pm	#3
hplikelike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 555	At least it's on time, and we didn't have to wait all day like the first game. Also, turning subtitles off solves it. But, yeah, they could have done better.

08/21/2009, 07:20 pm	#4
McMasters Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 17	There's even a double-space in the "You're bluffing!" dialogue choice in the last conversation of the episode - two spaces in-between two words in the middle of a sentence instead of one. Bah! I know I'm picky, but there is a fine line, you know? I'll give the dialogue a run-through for the next episode, no charge, if you want. Just give me a thanks, or heck, even put my pets in the pets section. They're sitting right here, I'm sure they'd love it!

08/21/2009, 07:26 pm	#5
Avistew I<3>1 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Posts: 5,051	Well they do have a timeline. And typos can just slip past people. What matters is that now, lots of people on the forum have mentionned them and hopefully the text will be fixed accordingly.

08/21/2009, 07:30 pm	#6
SHODANFreeman Mute Ruler of Insects Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,741	Yeah, the spelling errors are fairly irritating.

08/22/2009, 04:17 am	#8
Vainamoinen Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,832	Aye, I was appalled by the spelling mistakes too - as a German (who, granted, studied English)! Examples: After LeCuck's fight with the pirates: "I suppose your right, Guybrush" Final scene: "Make you wonder..." instead of "Makes you wonder..." Also, the subtitles don't settle for a coherent spelling of "Vacaylians". Sometimes it's just "Vacalians". Seriously. Get that fixed, Telltale! I really don't consider this a "little thing", as McMasters does.

08/22/2009, 04:43 am	#10
dzamir Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sicily, Italy Posts: 40	We are talkin' bout a game of pirates, ya know? Pirates can't speech well, so subtitles are perfect! HAR HAR HAR!

08/22/2009, 06:08 am	#12
Avistew I<3>1 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Posts: 5,051	True, but that's what a horde of angry fans demanding the game be released NAO can do :P I'm just saying, if you want to make sure it's polished, with no bugs like that an no spelling mistakes, you might have to be ready to wait more than a month between episodes.

08/22/2009, 11:33 am	#15
Harpalyce Darn you, socks! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 23	I think this is a good time for a small interlude. Dear Telltale, I would like to mention that I am always available to be hired for proofreading. I can work remotely by telecommuting quite easily and charge the reasonable rate of 10-12 dollars an hour. Yours fondly, Harpalyce P.S. I do have my resume right here...

08/22/2009, 12:55 pm	#17
bugzbunny90 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Blood Island Posts: 150	its not typo or grammar mistakes ..its pirate lingo ...maybe

08/22/2009, 02:46 pm	#18
meander Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 283	I think the subtitles need to be done better for future episodes too... one or two mistakes is understandable, but this many makes me think Telltale simply forgot to proofread. I'd also happily volunteer to help with proofreading, as a member of the New Zealand Apostrophe Protection Society And no, wouldn't mind waiting an extra day or two to have it done properly in the future episodes... I love Monkey Island, but after waiting 9 years a matter of hours isn't really too important to me.

09/26/2009, 03:02 am	#19
Vainamoinen Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,832	Expecting: "Tails uf Munky Iland - Lear of teh Mannetea" I must bring this thread up now, with episode 3 approaching and no official word whatsoever about fixing the spelling situation. Will there be professional spellchecking this time!? Or will the subtitles at least be written by someone who wouldn't make such hideous basic mistakes this time?

09/26/2009, 03:15 am	#20
Lennie Melvin Nice monkey suit Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ye Olde England Posts: 737	Also bury/burry