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Masquerade · 08/29/2009, 02:21 pm

Monkey Island has always been excellent at merging sharp wit with piratical stereotypes and bringing the legends of mariners to life. Yet with the introduction of mermen and these snorkel-like sea turtles I can not help but feel as though Tales is drifting further away from the original thematic. Episode Two seemed to remind me more of Wind Waker's world than it did Monkey Island's.

Did anyone else feel that it is encroaching upon the "fantasy" genre a little too much?

Sanin92 · 08/29/2009, 02:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Masquerade

Monkey Island has always been excellent at merging sharp wit with piratical stereotypes and bringing the legends of mariners to life. Yet with the introduction of mermen and these snorkel-like sea turtles I can not help but feel as though Tales is drifting further away from the original thematic. Episode Two seemed to remind me more of Wind Waker's world than it did Monkey Island's.

Did anyone else feel that it is encroaching upon the "fantasy" genre a little too much?

Maybe a little, but I don't care.It's telltale, it's their first Monkey Island game, and for me it's like a clean new start, where I'm not looking at how it's different from the lucasart games and am enjoying it the way telltale is making it, and love it this far.

So I don't really care if it's getting more fantastic or not.

bobdevis · 08/29/2009, 02:40 pm

Not really.

Think about it... We have had an evil ghost that tuned into a voodoo zombie that had a hellish amusement park that messed with your mind.
Later, that same zombie possessed a stone statue to do battle with a giant robot.

What Telltale introduced was a vile disease and creatures that were always part of sailor lore. Telltale has a loooong way to go to if they want to be more fantastic then the first 4 games.

Purple Tentacle · 08/29/2009, 03:02 pm

I don't actually see the inclusion of mer-people and such that far-fetched within the Monkey Island series. I mean we've had ghosts, a monkey playing the piano, an amusement park...why not?

Time and writers have changed the series over the years and so the world is bound to change with them. It keeps the series fresh and original. I dare say that if Ron Gilbert had made Monkey Island 3 then the series would have ended there.

Not because it would have been a failure (obviously) but because the original games world was fairly limited and the story would have been complete. There are only so many stories you can tell about pirates before exploring other areas that you wouldn't normally associate with them.

It happens with most long running series. The plotlines are bound to become more and more outrageous as ideas tend to dwindle.

coolsome · 08/29/2009, 03:06 pm

I think every moneky island is very diffrent from each other so just cos this has mer folk and magic sea turtles doesnt make it to far off from the others since each monkey island has diffrent themes and ideas

salmonmax · 08/29/2009, 03:12 pm

I think if you could accept a lactose-intolerant volcano god, you should be able to accept mermen. That's just my opinion.

thatdude98 · 08/29/2009, 03:39 pm

No.

hplikelike · 08/29/2009, 03:43 pm

Yes, I do believe that Telltale has made a game that is too fantastic-al. HEY TELLTALE, TRY MAKING A MEDIOCRE GAME NEXT TIME. THE FANTASTIC WRITING AND FIGHT SCENES AND STORY ARE RUINING MY EXPERIENCE.

Preach on.

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coolsome · 08/29/2009, 04:14 pm

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Originally Posted by hplikelike

Yes, I do believe that Telltale has made a game that is too fantastic-al. HEY TELLTALE, TRY MAKING A MEDIOCRE GAME NEXT TIME. THE FANTASTIC WRITING AND FIGHT SCENES AND STORY ARE RUINING MY EXPERIENCE.

Preach on.

...
[/sarcasm]

yh you jerks my heat cant take the exsitment :P

bobdevis · 08/29/2009, 04:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Sailorcuteness

yh you jerks my heat cant take the exsitment :P

I got this vision of you being a really old lady, sitting in a wheelchair playing the game and going "Oh no, another joke coming up, where is my heart medicine? cough cough...."

coolsome · 08/29/2009, 04:41 pm

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Originally Posted by bobdevis

I got this vision of you being a really old lady, sitting in a wheelchair playing the game and going "Oh no, another joke coming up, where is my heart medicine? cough cough...."

LeatherJackets · 08/29/2009, 04:58 pm

That's a pretty good up skirt shot of granny.

hansschmucker · 08/29/2009, 05:18 pm

Grow up

Seriously though, ToMI's scenario is definitely a bit different from MI1-3 (can't speak for 4, as I never finished it), but I think the different changes fit together. The humor has become a bit more obvious, the environments a bit less, for lack of a better word, "dark" and the characters a bit more unusual. The result for me is a different, but still great, game.

pilouuuu · 08/29/2009, 06:30 pm

Thanks God they're including new stuff in the franchise instead of remaking or making a self parody of TSOMI like MI 4.

It really is the harder way, as fans will always complain that this isn't Monkey-ish or this is not how the series should be, but it is for the better and helps keep the franchise alive and kicking.

And as has been mentioned before there were a lot of unrealistic stuff in all previous games. Please, let's keep nostalgia aside and enjoy this new series as it is. If they just include Stan and Murray most of my nostalgia will be satisfied.

Frogacuda · 08/29/2009, 06:39 pm

mermaids are totally a part of pirate lore. I don't see the issue. We've had ghosts, undead skeletons, etc...

bugzbunny90 · 08/29/2009, 08:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

mermaids are totally a part of pirate lore. I don't see the issue. We've had ghosts, undead skeletons, etc...

yeah .. but first i was a bit surprised with mermens..but still i love the idea

Spadge · 08/29/2009, 09:42 pm

Oh, maybe you are right, maybe they are getting JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUST a little too far. But it works pretty good. Plus breaking the mold a little is what every sequel should do. Heh, and I love the various squishy fish creatures we've seen so far. Just be glad there is no Prawnfolk in the game.

Lennie Melvin · 08/29/2009, 11:29 pm

I thought some of it was a little ...weird. Mostly that giant sea turtley thing. The merfolk were okay, but I'm just gonnna see where the game is going...

Masquerade · 08/30/2009, 01:47 am

Some people seem to be misreading this entirely.

I did not hate Episode 2 (some of you seem extraordinarily defensive about it) I merely found the "fantasy" setting a little strange. It need not follow the previous games to the letter - Tales feels too light and easy for that anyway - but voodoo curses, ghostly pirates and Monkey's have been strong staples of the series yet are still grounded within the 'real world'(for want of a better terminology) setting.

*Silverwolfpet* · 08/30/2009, 02:03 am

I like the ideea of expanding the Monkey Island Universe! I think the Mer-People fit within the story perfectly!

08/29/2009, 02:21 pm	#1
Masquerade Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 95	Does anyone feel that Tales is becoming a little too fantastical? Monkey Island has always been excellent at merging sharp wit with piratical stereotypes and bringing the legends of mariners to life. Yet with the introduction of mermen and these snorkel-like sea turtles I can not help but feel as though Tales is drifting further away from the original thematic. Episode Two seemed to remind me more of Wind Waker's world than it did Monkey Island's. Did anyone else feel that it is encroaching upon the "fantasy" genre a little too much? __________________ "I don't pray. Kneeling bags my nylons."

08/29/2009, 02:40 pm	#3
bobdevis Penguin Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 197	Not really. Think about it... We have had an evil ghost that tuned into a voodoo zombie that had a hellish amusement park that messed with your mind. Later, that same zombie possessed a stone statue to do battle with a giant robot. What Telltale introduced was a vile disease and creatures that were always part of sailor lore. Telltale has a loooong way to go to if they want to be more fantastic then the first 4 games. __________________ If you don't like this post, please go make another one yourself and show me where I can improve my language.

08/29/2009, 03:02 pm	#4
Purple Tentacle Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 116	I don't actually see the inclusion of mer-people and such that far-fetched within the Monkey Island series. I mean we've had ghosts, a monkey playing the piano, an amusement park...why not? Time and writers have changed the series over the years and so the world is bound to change with them. It keeps the series fresh and original. I dare say that if Ron Gilbert had made Monkey Island 3 then the series would have ended there. Not because it would have been a failure (obviously) but because the original games world was fairly limited and the story would have been complete. There are only so many stories you can tell about pirates before exploring other areas that you wouldn't normally associate with them. It happens with most long running series. The plotlines are bound to become more and more outrageous as ideas tend to dwindle. Last edited by Purple Tentacle; 08/29/2009 at 03:14 pm.

08/29/2009, 03:06 pm	#5
coolsome Sam D Coolsome Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: England Posts: 5,971	I think every moneky island is very diffrent from each other so just cos this has mer folk and magic sea turtles doesnt make it to far off from the others since each monkey island has diffrent themes and ideas __________________

08/29/2009, 03:39 pm	#7
thatdude98 Professional Hobo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dirt Hole, USA Posts: 755	No. __________________ "The world's gone to shit." Said every Walking Dead character ever.

08/29/2009, 03:12 pm	#6
salmonmax Adventure Gaming Advocate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 120	I think if you could accept a lactose-intolerant volcano god, you should be able to accept mermen. That's just my opinion.

08/29/2009, 03:43 pm	#8
hplikelike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 555	Yes, I do believe that Telltale has made a game that is too fantastic-al. HEY TELLTALE, TRY MAKING A MEDIOCRE GAME NEXT TIME. THE FANTASTIC WRITING AND FIGHT SCENES AND STORY ARE RUINING MY EXPERIENCE. Preach on. ... [/sarcasm]

08/29/2009, 04:58 pm	#12
LeatherJackets Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 39	That's a pretty good up skirt shot of granny.

08/29/2009, 05:18 pm	#13
hansschmucker Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 945	Grow up Seriously though, ToMI's scenario is definitely a bit different from MI1-3 (can't speak for 4, as I never finished it), but I think the different changes fit together. The humor has become a bit more obvious, the environments a bit less, for lack of a better word, "dark" and the characters a bit more unusual. The result for me is a different, but still great, game. __________________ ░░▄▀▀▀▄░░ ░█ ▀ ▀ █░ ░░█###█░░ ░░░▀▀▀░░░

08/29/2009, 06:30 pm	#14
pilouuuu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep at the World's End Posts: 314	Thanks God they're including new stuff in the franchise instead of remaking or making a self parody of TSOMI like MI 4. It really is the harder way, as fans will always complain that this isn't Monkey-ish or this is not how the series should be, but it is for the better and helps keep the franchise alive and kicking. And as has been mentioned before there were a lot of unrealistic stuff in all previous games. Please, let's keep nostalgia aside and enjoy this new series as it is. If they just include Stan and Murray most of my nostalgia will be satisfied. __________________ Monkeying around since 1990

08/29/2009, 06:39 pm	#15
Frogacuda Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 516	mermaids are totally a part of pirate lore. I don't see the issue. We've had ghosts, undead skeletons, etc...

08/29/2009, 09:42 pm	#17
Spadge Not a Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 832	Oh, maybe you are right, maybe they are getting JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUST a little too far. But it works pretty good. Plus breaking the mold a little is what every sequel should do. Heh, and I love the various squishy fish creatures we've seen so far. Just be glad there is no Prawnfolk in the game.

08/29/2009, 11:29 pm	#18
Lennie Melvin Nice monkey suit Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ye Olde England Posts: 737	I thought some of it was a little ...weird. Mostly that giant sea turtley thing. The merfolk were okay, but I'm just gonnna see where the game is going...

08/30/2009, 01:47 am	#19
Masquerade Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 95	Some people seem to be misreading this entirely. I did not hate Episode 2 (some of you seem extraordinarily defensive about it) I merely found the "fantasy" setting a little strange. It need not follow the previous games to the letter - Tales feels too light and easy for that anyway - but voodoo curses, ghostly pirates and Monkey's have been strong staples of the series yet are still grounded within the 'real world'(for want of a better terminology) setting. __________________ "I don't pray. Kneeling bags my nylons."

08/30/2009, 02:03 am	#20
Silverwolfpet Wolfy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 3,042	I like the ideea of expanding the Monkey Island Universe! I think the Mer-People fit within the story perfectly! __________________ I am a community moderator, here to assist, keep the peace, and keep these boards clean and friendly for all. I am a volunteer, and not a Telltale employee, and my opinions are my own. Something awesome this way comes... ^.^ www.silverwolfpet.com

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