Question regarding Episode 2 on WiiWare

[WedgeWalker]

To anyone who's downloaded it for WiiWare, how's the frame-rate?

[bugzbunny90]

dont mind i just like to answer every post.. well goto youtube and try searching for gameplay videos made by users for wiiware .if u dont get satisfying answers here. tho i havent seen tomi on wii but i have a hunch the frame rate will be better on wiiiiiiware..

[WedgeWalker]

Problem is, you can't get a good sens of frame-rate by watching a YouTube video, as YouTube videos have a lower framerate anyway.

[bugzbunny90]

try reading reviews on www.gamespot.com because sometimes u dont get satisfying or decision making clues here ..everyone has their own opinion (just trying to helpo) or if ur internet is like supersonic watch uuuutube in HD .. pause it go do stuff till it buffers all up for ultimate youtube experiance

[evilmax17]

Originally Posted by WedgeWalker

To anyone who's downloaded it for WiiWare, how's the frame-rate?

I'm also very interested in hearing how it compares to ep1.

Anybody take the plunge yet?

[evilmax17]

Originally Posted by IGN

Again, the WiiWare version of The Siege of Spinner Cay doesn't run as well as its PC counterpart. The framerate is herky jerky, distracting the player by stuttering every few seconds. You want to be sucked into a videogame -- especially an adventure game like this -- and these visual hiccups make it difficult to be swept up in the experience. The graphics are much less crisp, and the audio has been heavily compressed so that you'll hear some distortion in the voice actors' "S" and "F" sounds.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/101/1019952p1.html

Sigh. Fool me once Telltale...

[WedgeWalker]

While I tend to trust IGN, I think they're exaggerating a bit.

I went ahead and downloaded it. And while it's not always smooth as say...Super Mario Galaxy...it's not bad at all.

It's a marked improvement from Episode 1. There was no time in the first installment where I'd say the framerate it smooth.

But in Episode 2, at least so far (I've played maybe an hour), there have been many times where I actually would call the framerate "smooth." And by "smooth" I do in fact mean SMG smooth. And so far the worst framerates I've seen have still been better than the 99% of Ep 1.

So in short, Telltale hasn't fooled us twice. Don't let IGN cause your heart to be troubled.

And incidentally, IGN's review seems somewhat disjointed. The text section seems to take a positive view of the episode. But the bullet point by the numbers scoring at the end takes, it seems to me, a noticeably less positive view (and makes some complaints that just don't seem valid, given the nature of the title...an episode adventure game).

And if they think MI games have only minimal replayability...it makes we wonder if they've ever fully explored an MI game.

[miles]

The frame rate isn't great, but it seems better than Ep 1. I just find the jungle puzzles again to be VERY redundant. Let's see some different kinds of puzzles/new locales in the next episode(s), eh?

[Ben]

We have made an effort to improve the frame rate on the Wii. Some of our optimizations are in episode 2, some more will be in episode 3. We've also improved our compression algorithms a bit, and increased the audio quality slightly using the additional space. It is still heavily compressed however.

[jayz79]

i downloaded the game yesterday and so far I am enjoying it and thankful for the improvements made by telltale with regards to the framerate. At least I know that telltale is doing its best to improve on it.

so to the others, i say to hell with the reviews from the likes of IGN

keep up the good work telltale and hopefully more improvements will come on episode 3

[WedgeWalker]

And that's what bothers me with many of these reviews. They point out, correctly so, that the frame-rates aren't always silky smooth. And there are pauses as the game decompresses (I'm assuming) and loads animations.

But no reviews I've seen have even mentioned how much of an improvement there's been since ep 1. And I think that needs to be pointed out.

[jayz79]

Originally Posted by WedgeWalker

And that's what bothers me with many of these reviews. They point out, correctly so, that the frame-rates aren't always silky smooth. And there are pauses as the game decompresses (I'm assuming) and loads animations.

But no reviews I've seen have even mentioned how much of an improvement there's been since ep 1. And I think that needs to be pointed out.

I totally agree

[jp-30]

Also, it seems to be compared with full retail releases rather than other Wiiware titles, which by and large are pretty average play-wise and almost all are unvoiced.

[RumbleRed]

Originally Posted by WedgeWalker

And that's what bothers me with many of these reviews. They point out, correctly so, that the frame-rates aren't always silky smooth. And there are pauses as the game decompresses (I'm assuming) and loads animations.

But no reviews I've seen have even mentioned how much of an improvement there's been since ep 1. And I think that needs to be pointed out.

They probably didn't notice the difference. If you were a professional game reviewer, you would have played so many games (with better framerates) since the first episode that when you tried the second your memory would be fuzzy and you'd just notice the stuttering issues again without realizing that it's actually an improvement over the first game.

I agree though, that if the framerate has improved over the previous game it's worth mentioning. Just like if there are stuttering issues it's also worth mentioning. I've been annoyed before when a reviewer failed to mention a negative that wound up bothering me when I got the game.

[Thriftweed Fancy Pants]

I'm glad to hear there's been an improvement.

I just bought the first episode on WiiWare to share the experience with some of my younger siblings - needless to say it was a disappointment. Some of the jokes didn't even make any sense because of the choppy frame rate (for example, when Guybrush punches the first pirate he meets on Flotsam, it happens so fast that the frames can't keep up and an absolutely hilarious moment is lost). Another problem was the size of the dialogue text; it was far too small to read, and more of the game's excellent humor was lost. What should have been a fun family experience quickly became wearisome. I'm a fan of TTG, and I want to support them, but for the first time, I actually felt regret after buying the WiiWare version of TMI: Launch of the Screaming Narwhal. I paid more, but received less (than the PC version).

Any chance the first episode will be re-released on WiiWare with better frame rates? And why does Nintendo require such a small file size?

[Bardamu]

Originally Posted by Ben

We have made an effort to improve the frame rate on the Wii. Some of our optimizations are in episode 2, some more will be in episode 3. We've also improved our compression algorithms a bit, and increased the audio quality slightly using the additional space. It is still heavily compressed however.

Finally I played and finished chapter 2.
Indeed there is a notable improvement from the first chapter.
Glad to hear that you are still working on optimizating the Wii engine in the following chapters ( it's a a shame that those improvements didn't/can't come before the release of the serie. It's one of the problem of Telltale busines model, I guess. )

Could you put an option in the setting for the Wii version where you can enlarge the font like 1.5 times so to make the text more readable on SD TV ?

I encountered 2 bugs in my run.
One is that the game always crash the Wii if you , from Roe Island, take the raft and then you choose as destinatination the same Roe Island.
The other is a minor graphical glitch.
I'm not exactly sure how I trigger it but I opened the altar with the Turtle amulet without take it from the pedestal then I retrieved the Fish amulet when I returned to the altar , it was close althought you could select the amulet.

Good luck for the next entries.