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Old 09/19/2009, 09:55 pm   #61
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This is awesome. I totally missed out on the golden age of one of my fave genres! Hopefully this'll make up for it. XP

I just hope they come out on the 360 too or something. I can't use Steam or any PC games, blargh.
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Old 09/19/2009, 10:05 pm   #62
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I'm hoping that they remake all of their games that didn't have talkies (Maniac Mansion, Zak McKracken, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (although the classic version is on Steam so this one is unlikely ), and Monkey Island 2). Any other remake would be icing on the cake.
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Old 09/19/2009, 10:46 pm   #63
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Am I the only one not completely wowed by this?

I'm really sick of "living in the past" in terms of LucasArts and Sierra adventures. Constantly re-making the Golden Age without actually pushing ahead with the values that made the golden age actually golden.

I'll be MUCH happier with a new game that oozes with originality. These games had their chance to shine, and they did so brilliantly, but now it's time to give new ideas a spin.

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Old 09/19/2009, 11:50 pm   #64
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Am I the only one not completely wowed by this?

I'm really sick of "living in the past" in terms of LucasArts and Sierra adventures. Constantly re-making the Golden Age without actually pushing ahead with the values that made the golden age actually golden.

I'll be MUCH happier with a new game that oozes with originality. These games had their chance to shine, and they did so brilliantly, but now it's time to give new ideas a spin.
I think they're warming up to this. They're trying to get people re-acquainted with their legacy, but it seems like part of a longer term plan to revive the Lucas brand as more than just the keepers of Star Wars and Indy.
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Old 09/20/2009, 12:07 am   #65
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I think they're warming up to this. They're trying to get people re-acquainted with their legacy, but it seems like part of a longer term plan to revive the Lucas brand as more than just the keepers of Star Wars and Indy.
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Old 09/20/2009, 07:42 am   #66
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I shall eagerly await Secret of Monkey Island 2 SE and Loom SE....
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Old 09/20/2009, 09:29 am   #67
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@RD, how can you not be thrilled? You may call it living in the past, but it looks more like they're embracing their past and facing the future. It's not like it takes a whole lot of resources to rerelease their old games. And if it means gaining interest in what they used to do they'll move forward with newer games in the same vein. I think it's brilliant. I just hope it pans out. By the looks of things it seems like LA has seen quite a response to what they've done already and with their plans to do more it's a very exciting prospect indeed.

And how can you deny people who missed out on these great classics the chance to play them?
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Old 09/20/2009, 10:30 am   #68
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I am seriously up for a SE of Grim Fandango for the Wii.
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Old 09/20/2009, 10:45 am   #69
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I am seriously up for a SE of Grim Fandango for the Wii.
They'd never be able to squeeze it into a small enough file for the Wii's downloadable stuff... it'd have to be a physical release. It'd work really well though.
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Am I the only one not completely wowed by this?

I'm really sick of "living in the past" in terms of LucasArts and Sierra adventures. Constantly re-making the Golden Age without actually pushing ahead with the values that made the golden age actually golden.

I'll be MUCH happier with a new game that oozes with originality. These games had their chance to shine, and they did so brilliantly, but now it's time to give new ideas a spin.
Of course a new game would be great but it's nice that they're giving some attention to the old games too.
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Old 09/20/2009, 11:01 am   #71
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They'd never be able to squeeze it into a small enough file for the Wii's downloadable stuff... it'd have to be a physical release. It'd work really well though.
Who said it had to be for the wiiware? I was talking about a Wii release.
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Who said it had to be for the wiiware? I was talking about a Wii release.
It definitely deserves a Wii release but I don't imagine they'd go for it. I hope I'm wrong!
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Seriously, isn't that something companies usually do in patches?
Not that I'm aware of, no. It is not. Not for hand-drawn 2-D games, at least.
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Old 09/21/2009, 12:27 am   #74
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@RD, how can you not be thrilled? You may call it living in the past, but it looks more like they're embracing their past and facing the future. It's not like it takes a whole lot of resources to rerelease their old games. And if it means gaining interest in what they used to do they'll move forward with newer games in the same vein. I think it's brilliant. I just hope it pans out.
If it's more of a re-introduction of the public to their past before bringing out a lot more new things, then I'm fine. And hey, we're already getting Lucidity from them, so maybe my fears and issues are dead on arrival already. But still, LucasArts is a rather large corporation, and I've noticed that "soul" and "creativity" are resources that can be cut from the budget to pave a new future of lucrative mediocrity and re-uses of the old resources, often to great acclaim.

From the past few years worth of experience with LucasArts, it's hard to have an optimistic view of their future.

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By the looks of things it seems like LA has seen quite a response to what they've done already and with their plans to do more it's a very exciting prospect indeed.
I just hope what they've learned isn't "Our margins are so much higher on these remakes...this is what the adventure community wants! Throw some coal into the Remake Machine, we're going to print money!"

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I can't, don't, and never have. I've actually introduced three new people to these classics in the past year. Somehow, by forces unknowable, what was fun 20 years ago is actually still fun now.

These games never stopped existing. People can still play them. And frankly, if someone NEEDS the games to have these enhancements for them to start enjoying it, then I don't really think their opinion matters.
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I just hope what they've learned isn't "Our margins are so much higher on these remakes...this is what the adventure community wants! Throw some coal into the Remake Machine, we're going to print money!"
Of course Lucasarts are hoping to profit from these remakes and special editions, but that is also the case with pretty much any game you'll ever play. I really don't see what the alternatives to these games being done for profit are - either short-term or long-term. In any case, they are not doing these remakes simply to be nice.

There is a financial plan behind doing special editions of old adventure games. Either Lucasarts management is hoping to turn a nice little profit per game, or they are looking at the oppurtunity to reenter the adventure game market, and needs to test the financial waters for these games and give their staff expertise in working on adventure games.

However, while the managment of a company looks at games from a financial view, the developers, artists, writers and coders working on the game can have a much more artistic and creative view on the project they are working on. The way I see it, nothing negatve can come from this. Worst case-scenario is that Lucasarts does a couple of flawed remakes of old adventure games before returning to doing Star Wars games, and the best case-scenario is a full fledged return of Lucasarts as a creative powerhouse doing new adventure games. We're probably landing somewhere in the middle.
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These games never stopped existing. People can still play them. And frankly, if someone NEEDS the games to have these enhancements for them to start enjoying it, then I don't really think their opinion matters.
If LEC had just released MI1 on XBLA completely unaltered, no one who has never heard of MI would have ever tried it. They'd have looked at it and said "Ew what a disgustingly ugly game, no way am I paying money for this" It's sad, but it's true.

People are always going to judge a book by its cover, so if LEC wants new fans (which they do, and I think we all want adventures to be profitable), they pretty much have to make sure the games don't look like crap to newer generations of gamers who have never known anything worse than PS2.

Shallow? Yes. Graphics whores? Yes. That's the way of things. You know and I know that good game > graphics, but there are people who are dumb enough to get that equation mixed up, and Lucasarts wants their money just as much as they want ours, and hey, if it works, good for them, they deserve money from idiots and people with common sense alike.
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I shall eagerly await Secret of Monkey Island 2 SE and Loom SE....
if they were going to redo loom they wouldnt have rereleased the classic version
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Unless they wanted to see how well it sold without modifications?
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I've seen that LucasArts has released SNES "Super Star Wars" on Wii's Virtual Console, and they plan to release the other two episodes. It would be nice, on their classic games revision policy, that they release on Wii Virtual Console their Nintendo 64 games, such as "Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire", "Star Wars: Rogue Squadron" or "Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine"
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I've seen that LucasArts has released SNES "Super Star Wars" on Wii's Virtual Console, and they plan to release the other two episodes. It would be nice, on their classic games revision policy, that they release on Wii Virtual Console their Nintendo 64 games, such as "Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire", "Star Wars: Rogue Squadron" or "Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine"
I wouldn't be surprised.
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