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Maxilyah · 10/31/2009, 12:59 pm

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Originally Posted by raycichocki

I love that parrot too, but now he's actually GONE.
D:

Maybe the Voodoo Lady will make a new one.

Guinea · 10/31/2009, 01:02 pm

Wow, that was one bloody episode. 3 characters killed, 4 if you count the pyrite parrot

Will we get to play as Elaine in Ep5?
Or will we play as Ghost Guybrush?
I can't wait!

Rather Dashing · 10/31/2009, 01:06 pm

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Originally Posted by thatdude98

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Except it doesn't have any darkness whatsoever. It's meant as a weak and artificial stand-in for real darkness, but it comes off as overly theatrical and unconvincing.

And I can be pleased. I was incredibly happy with Episode 3. It was amazing and I loved it. Sam and Max Season Two is my favorite video game of the past five years. I just think that the whole idea of "darkness" fell really flat. Maybe they just meant the sun would go down, in which case they delivered I guess.

PecanBlue · 10/31/2009, 01:07 pm

I dunno, I thought DeSinge's death was pretty dark.

Danny · 10/31/2009, 01:23 pm

Wow... Just finished it, can't really add more to what has been said already, best episode ever and definitely on par with the best of MI! Can't wait for the next!!!

One thing though, what exactly IS the matter with the CAT?

Gryffalio · 10/31/2009, 03:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Rather Dashing

Except it doesn't have any darkness whatsoever. It's meant as a weak and artificial stand-in for real darkness, but it comes off as overly theatrical and unconvincing.

...I just think that the whole idea of "darkness" fell really flat. Maybe they just meant the sun would go down, in which case they delivered I guess.

I can see what you mean to an extent; it did seem a little clumsy and tbh the Morgan death/Guybrush death/De Singe death (...geez this isn't Monkey Island this is Taggart) didn't really work given the continued comedic undertones throughout the game (especially when Morgan is killed and he's all sulky, but he still makes the odd light-hearted comment while in the room). But they tried something a little different and I doff my hat to them for that!

I'm not sure it was all that edge-of-your-seats dark, though the Ep4 atmosphere for me was relatively intense for MI and the dark-humour and at times gratuitous death (wonder if they'd been watching Shaun of the Dead or something) was about as much (if not more) than I would expect from MI.

Sure, it wasn't a world-changing ep, just like Nasa-beds aren't the secret to eternal youth. But since when to salesmen tell it like it is? I don't know if you were expected Alighieri to join the writing team, but I thought it was reasonably dark.

VickyL · 10/31/2009, 04:33 pm

Rather tempted to just slip in a link to the Darker and Edgier entry on tvtropes here.
In fact, that's exactly what I'm going to do: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...arkerAndEdgier
In trying to make it darker by killing off so many characters, they kinda slingshot right back to the opposite end of the spectrum. If anything, Guybrush finally keeling over had me giggling because it was done so cheesily, what with the fading vision as he glances over at LeChuck, and the Last Request, and so on and so forth.
Okay, Morgan's death was unexpected, and DeSinge's end certainly made me wince.
I don't get why so many people are gushing over how it's the most amazing installment yet! The third was by far the best, in my opinion.

GaryCXJk · 10/31/2009, 04:40 pm

Your mileage may vary.

Masta23 · 10/31/2009, 04:45 pm

Wow what a clffhanger.. though I find it hard to believe that Telltale would kill guybrush off.. there is bound to be a way to bring him back. Maybe the voodoo Lady is able to? Well A Guybrush-less chapter 5 would be pretty lame imo.. can't believe I have to wait a month to find out what happens lol.
I am glad to see the old Lechuck back though and it was a pleasant surprise to see Earl Boen's name in the credits.
I am confused on the Voodoo Lady's part in all this though..guess I should replay the chapter but I thought that both Lechuck and Guybrush were pawns in the voodoo Lady's game all along and that Lechuck was evil becasue she made him that way. I dunno lol.. many questions still to be answered.
I guess though that Lechuck has to be a villain... can't have lechuck change sides now though lol.. it doesn't quite fit Monkey Island.

Secret Fawful · 10/31/2009, 05:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Rather Dashing

Except it doesn't have any darkness whatsoever. It's meant as a weak and artificial stand-in for real darkness, but it comes off as overly theatrical and unconvincing.

And I can be pleased. I was incredibly happy with Episode 3. It was amazing and I loved it. Sam and Max Season Two is my favorite video game of the past five years. I just think that the whole idea of "darkness" fell really flat. Maybe they just meant the sun would go down, in which case they delivered I guess.

No it's not. Being able to walk around in a room with Morgan's corpse right there and carrying around severed limbs isn't dark enough for you?

VickyL · 10/31/2009, 05:18 pm

carrying round a bag of severed limbs is NOT dark, considering the silliness that ensues. I mean, REALLY. Dipping one in sugar water to attract fireflies, then following the glowing trail to discover a carnivorous plant with a lion's paw stuck in its thorns?

Rather Dashing · 10/31/2009, 05:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

No it's not. Being able to walk around in a room with Morgan's corpse right there and carrying around severed limbs isn't dark enough for you?

Actually, Morgan's death would have been fine(if not really "dark") if

Also, those were the tamest severed limbs I've ever seen in anything. And we didn't get to see the room. And if we did, it'd be overly cartoony to the point of stupidity. If there's one annoying thing about Tales, it's that it shies away from gore to a ridiculously squeamish extent. It keeps making passing references, but refuses to actually "go there". Even when you have a severed limb, it's about as tame as you can get while still being a severed limb. Yes, if dark is what they were going for, they didn't do enough. Maybe LucasArts fans don't know what "dark" means. Maybe they think "dark" means the inside of a Hot Topic or a Stephanie Meyers novel. I don't know. But there's nothing inherently "dark" about it, and if it was played off as the light drama that it is...I wouldn't mind nearly as much.

Secret Fawful · 10/31/2009, 05:20 pm

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Originally Posted by VickyL

carrying round a bag of severed limbs is NOT dark, considering the silliness that ensues. I mean, REALLY. Dipping one in sugar water to attract fireflies, then following the glowing trail to discover a carnivorous plant with a lion's paw stuck in its thorns?

Uh, it's still pretty dark. And oh my, sillyness. In Monkey Island. No way.

@Rather Dashing - The only time anything gory happened in MI was when LeChuck's limbs were ripped off, and THEN it was a gag.

VickyL · 10/31/2009, 05:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

Uh, it's still pretty dark. And oh my, sillyness. In Monkey Island. No way.

The point. You're missing it.

thatdude98 · 10/31/2009, 05:50 pm

Why can't we all just get along? CAN'T YOU SEE THIS CONSTANT BICKERING IS TEARING US ALL APAAAAARRRRRTTT?!!

Secret Fawful · 10/31/2009, 05:52 pm

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Originally Posted by VickyL

The point. You're missing it.

Yes, mainly because I'm trying too hard to defend it blindly without thinking about what I'm saying beforehand. And because I don't want to accept what you're saying.

thatdude98 · 10/31/2009, 06:00 pm

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Originally Posted by VickyL

The point. You're missing it.

I don't know about him, but I'm not missing the point. See?

.

There. There's your point.

VickyL · 10/31/2009, 06:01 pm

xD Ah yes, there's my beloved point. I'll never let you out of my sight again, no I won't. coochiecoochie coo!

VickyL · 10/31/2009, 06:04 pm

Okay no.

cettefemme · 10/31/2009, 06:10 pm

!

Please don't let him be dead, it would ruin it!
...So are we playing as the hand in the beginning of the next episode?

10/31/2009, 04:45 pm	#109
Masta23 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 837	Wow what a clffhanger.. though I find it hard to believe that Telltale would kill guybrush off.. there is bound to be a way to bring him back. Maybe the voodoo Lady is able to? Well A Guybrush-less chapter 5 would be pretty lame imo.. can't believe I have to wait a month to find out what happens lol. I am glad to see the old Lechuck back though and it was a pleasant surprise to see Earl Boen's name in the credits. I am confused on the Voodoo Lady's part in all this though..guess I should replay the chapter but I thought that both Lechuck and Guybrush were pawns in the voodoo Lady's game all along and that Lechuck was evil becasue she made him that way. I dunno lol.. many questions still to be answered. I guess though that Lechuck has to be a villain... can't have lechuck change sides now though lol.. it doesn't quite fit Monkey Island. Last edited by Masta23; 10/31/2009 at 05:02 pm.

10/31/2009, 05:50 pm	#115
thatdude98 Professional Hobo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dirt Hole, USA Posts: 755	Why can't we all just get along? CAN'T YOU SEE THIS CONSTANT BICKERING IS TEARING US ALL APAAAAARRRRRTTT?!! __________________ "The world's gone to shit." Said every Walking Dead character ever.

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10/31/2009, 01:02 pm	#102
Guinea Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 436	Wow, that was one bloody episode. 3 characters killed, 4 if you count the pyrite parrot Will we get to play as Elaine in Ep5? Or will we play as Ghost Guybrush? I can't wait!

10/31/2009, 01:07 pm	#104
PecanBlue I warned you about stairs Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Not telling, I don't want rocks thrown at my house Posts: 743	I dunno, I thought DeSinge's death was pretty dark.

10/31/2009, 01:23 pm	#105
Danny Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 24	Wow... Just finished it, can't really add more to what has been said already, best episode ever and definitely on par with the best of MI! Can't wait for the next!!! One thing though, what exactly IS the matter with the CAT?

10/31/2009, 04:33 pm	#107
VickyL Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 34	Rather tempted to just slip in a link to the Darker and Edgier entry on tvtropes here. In fact, that's exactly what I'm going to do: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...arkerAndEdgier In trying to make it darker by killing off so many characters, they kinda slingshot right back to the opposite end of the spectrum. If anything, Guybrush finally keeling over had me giggling because it was done so cheesily, what with the fading vision as he glances over at LeChuck, and the Last Request, and so on and so forth. Okay, Morgan's death was unexpected, and DeSinge's end certainly made me wince. I don't get why so many people are gushing over how it's the most amazing installment yet! The third was by far the best, in my opinion.

10/31/2009, 04:40 pm	#108
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10/31/2009, 05:18 pm	#111
VickyL Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 34	carrying round a bag of severed limbs is NOT dark, considering the silliness that ensues. I mean, REALLY. Dipping one in sugar water to attract fireflies, then following the glowing trail to discover a carnivorous plant with a lion's paw stuck in its thorns?

10/31/2009, 06:01 pm	#118
VickyL Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 34	xD Ah yes, there's my beloved point. I'll never let you out of my sight again, no I won't. coochiecoochie coo!

10/31/2009, 06:04 pm	#119
VickyL Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 34	Okay no.

10/31/2009, 06:10 pm	#120
cettefemme Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: England Posts: 32	! Please don't let him be dead, it would ruin it! ...So are we playing as the hand in the beginning of the next episode?