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DeLuca · 11/02/2009, 06:42 am

SPOILERS AHOY

Okay. I loved this chapter. I think it's the best chapter of MI since MI2. It's the first chapter I've played without a walkthrough since CMI. Everything about it was great...

except the end.

I love the story and I love what happened, but we have this GREAT sequence of the pox being eradicated with great graphics (though could have used more music), and then we have LeChuck returning, building up to what should be a great great cliffhanger, and storywise it is.

Earl Boen is back and gets... two weirdly recorded lines? People have been asking for this and should be screaming YES! when they hear the familiar voice, but we didn't even get a signature "Yarrr!". Also his new ultra poxed form is exactly the same, no great transformation sequence, and then, without any music or dramatic cinematography like the previous sequences, Elaine just goes to clash swords, and we are left only with the ambient forest music. It all just fell flat for me. Also the music in the whole episode was really oddly quiet, I had to lower the sound and voice volumes to hear it properly.

Hopefully we'll get some prime CMI style Earl Boen back in Chapter 5 and more of Michael Lands epic music, hopefully in all the right spots.

Astro Gnocci · 11/02/2009, 08:24 am

I have to agree on the lack of dynamics in certain scenes.
I don't recall the final one so well, but it particularly striked me during the opening... That scene where the flotsam pirates are running up to guybrush to get him... The overall introduction WAS greatly done, but at this point it really felt weird and, yeah, rather flat.
I even thought something was wrong when i got to the chapter 's name screen, which should feel quieter than what has happened and kinda break the dynamics. Here, it just stayed on the same level, making the whole thing all the more flat.
Of course, what came next was great, but those 30 seconds or so did threw off.

DeLuca · 11/02/2009, 09:24 am

Yeah I mean everything that they did do was GREAT but its the things that were missing (music at crucial points, more fancy animations at LeChuck's transformation, more speaking for Earl, etc) which make me semi wish they had spent another week on it.

Imagine how cool it would have been to see human LeChuck rise into the air, go limp, and then have green light shoot out of his eyes and mouth and fingertips as his beard fell off and the demon version grew in, his eyes and face transforming and the classic CMI style Earl Boen YARRRRRRRR as the screen went white and the chapter ended with LeChucks theme booming from the speakers.

Astro Gnocci · 11/02/2009, 10:04 am

Actually i'm not sure if SEEING him transform back into Evil Chuckie would have been so necessary... Sometimes that kind of stuff is best left unseen (AND it probably saves lots of time and money as well

).

But as i said, i'll have to see the scene again to really comment - I remember the basics, but not quite how it was done in details.
We still basically agree anyway : it was overall pretty good, but did miss some punch to really make a great impression.

PecanBlue · 11/02/2009, 10:07 am

I'm guessing all that good LeChuck stuff is being saved for episode 5. We just needed to have a grand cliffhanger here.

Toothless Gibbon · 11/02/2009, 12:39 pm

It's little surprise that you think this is the best chapter if you normally use walkthroughs.

DeLuca · 11/02/2009, 12:44 pm

I normally start without them, then 1/3 of the way in get stuck and read it JUST FOR ONE hint and end up using it for the whole thing.

Kroms · 11/02/2009, 12:47 pm

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Originally Posted by DeLuca

Imagine how cool it would have been to see human LeChuck rise into the air, go limp, and then have green light shoot out of his eyes and mouth and fingertips as his beard fell off and the demon version grew in, his eyes and face transforming and the classic CMI style Earl Boen YARRRRRRRR as the screen went white and the chapter ended with LeChucks theme booming from the speakers.

It would have been lame.

LeChuck is coming back next chapter, lots of Earl Boen then.

Such weird complaints on this forum.

SpaceFalcon2001 · 11/04/2009, 01:34 pm

Of all Lechuck's forms, Zombie lechuck is my least favorite. Demon Lechuck being the most awesome followed by ghost, and I'm hoping Telltale will bring back a focus on those or create an awesome new one (maybe the pirate god form is a hint? or does living nice lechuck count as a form?)

*Irishmile* · 11/04/2009, 01:45 pm

My favorite LeChuck is Zombie, my least fave is ghost.... Actually scratch that my least fave is Human... Sorry TTG but I did like it when he was evil in ToMI

Gryffalio · 11/04/2009, 02:08 pm

Good LeChuck was interesting. For me, the demon LeChuck was just boring because I didn't like the direction his character took after MI2. Ghost was alright (it was his original incarnation after all, and SoMI:SE did a good job with his sprite I think). Let's all pretend stone-LeChuck didn't exist!

*Irishmile* · 11/04/2009, 05:09 pm

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Originally Posted by ThunderPeel2001

When it was announced that game was coming out early, all I thought was "I hope they didn't rush it. If they brought the game in ahead of schedule, I hope they took the time to fix all the bugs before they release it, and really make it polished."

Early? they released it second to the last day of the month... It was the latest release date yet, for ToMI.
I do however get the feeling it was worked on until the last minute there were plenty of bugs but I suspect they will have it all fixed on the DVD..

dr freeman 23 · 11/04/2009, 05:31 pm

i have to admit i was quite shocked of guybrush getting killed

doggans · 11/04/2009, 05:39 pm

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Originally Posted by ThunderPeel2001

Then it gets worse: Mother-in-law jokes...? Has the series really stooped that low? What is this? Bad 80's stand-up?

I only noticed one mother-in-law joke in this chapter. There were two or three in Chapter One.

bobhobbit · 11/04/2009, 09:53 pm

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Originally Posted by doggans

I only noticed one mother-in-law joke in this chapter. There were two or three in Chapter One.

Almost every reference to the lion paw was a mother-in-law joke. I guess you could count that as one big joke, or several smaller ones. But I do remember a few in Chapter One as well.

coolsome · 11/05/2009, 04:56 am

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Originally Posted by ThunderPeel2001

Lol, really? It felt early!

thats cos the chapter 3 relese date was late in month 2 if it was at start it feel like ages

GaryCXJk · 11/05/2009, 08:19 am

I guess I can see why TV Tropes has a field day with this forums.

11/02/2009, 06:42 am	#1
DeLuca Scumm Bar Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 266	The ending of Chapter 4 (spoilers AND grievances) SPOILERS AHOY Okay. I loved this chapter. I think it's the best chapter of MI since MI2. It's the first chapter I've played without a walkthrough since CMI. Everything about it was great... except the end. I love the story and I love what happened, but we have this GREAT sequence of the pox being eradicated with great graphics (though could have used more music), and then we have LeChuck returning, building up to what should be a great great cliffhanger, and storywise it is. Earl Boen is back and gets... two weirdly recorded lines? People have been asking for this and should be screaming YES! when they hear the familiar voice, but we didn't even get a signature "Yarrr!". Also his new ultra poxed form is exactly the same, no great transformation sequence, and then, without any music or dramatic cinematography like the previous sequences, Elaine just goes to clash swords, and we are left only with the ambient forest music. It all just fell flat for me. Also the music in the whole episode was really oddly quiet, I had to lower the sound and voice volumes to hear it properly. Hopefully we'll get some prime CMI style Earl Boen back in Chapter 5 and more of Michael Lands epic music, hopefully in all the right spots. __________________ ----------------- Buy My Book!! - Six Months in Ipswich The Memory Chaser - Coming 2010 by Alexander DeLuca ----------------- Follow Me on Tumblror Twitter

11/02/2009, 08:24 am	#2
Astro Gnocci Buck Naked - Texas Ranger Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 683	I have to agree on the lack of dynamics in certain scenes. I don't recall the final one so well, but it particularly striked me during the opening... That scene where the flotsam pirates are running up to guybrush to get him... The overall introduction WAS greatly done, but at this point it really felt weird and, yeah, rather flat. I even thought something was wrong when i got to the chapter 's name screen, which should feel quieter than what has happened and kinda break the dynamics. Here, it just stayed on the same level, making the whole thing all the more flat. Of course, what came next was great, but those 30 seconds or so did threw off. __________________ Drink Cheap, Evil-Smellin Beer Everyday of Your Life.

11/02/2009, 09:24 am	#3
DeLuca Scumm Bar Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 266	Yeah I mean everything that they did do was GREAT but its the things that were missing (music at crucial points, more fancy animations at LeChuck's transformation, more speaking for Earl, etc) which make me semi wish they had spent another week on it. Imagine how cool it would have been to see human LeChuck rise into the air, go limp, and then have green light shoot out of his eyes and mouth and fingertips as his beard fell off and the demon version grew in, his eyes and face transforming and the classic CMI style Earl Boen YARRRRRRRR as the screen went white and the chapter ended with LeChucks theme booming from the speakers. __________________ ----------------- Buy My Book!! - Six Months in Ipswich The Memory Chaser - Coming 2010 by Alexander DeLuca ----------------- Follow Me on Tumblror Twitter

11/02/2009, 10:04 am	#4
Astro Gnocci Buck Naked - Texas Ranger Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 683	Actually i'm not sure if SEEING him transform back into Evil Chuckie would have been so necessary... Sometimes that kind of stuff is best left unseen (AND it probably saves lots of time and money as well ). But as i said, i'll have to see the scene again to really comment - I remember the basics, but not quite how it was done in details. We still basically agree anyway : it was overall pretty good, but did miss some punch to really make a great impression. __________________ Drink Cheap, Evil-Smellin Beer Everyday of Your Life.

11/02/2009, 12:39 pm	#6
Toothless Gibbon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 933	It's little surprise that you think this is the best chapter if you normally use walkthroughs. __________________ "Threepwood told me he'd found a sunken chest with no booty. It was my wife."

11/02/2009, 10:07 am	#5
PecanBlue I warned you about stairs Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Not telling, I don't want rocks thrown at my house Posts: 743	I'm guessing all that good LeChuck stuff is being saved for episode 5. We just needed to have a grand cliffhanger here.

11/02/2009, 12:44 pm	#7
DeLuca Scumm Bar Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 266	I normally start without them, then 1/3 of the way in get stuck and read it JUST FOR ONE hint and end up using it for the whole thing. __________________ ----------------- Buy My Book!! - Six Months in Ipswich The Memory Chaser - Coming 2010 by Alexander DeLuca ----------------- Follow Me on Tumblror Twitter

11/04/2009, 01:34 pm	#9
SpaceFalcon2001 I wannabe a Pirate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA and Israel Posts: 81	Of all Lechuck's forms, Zombie lechuck is my least favorite. Demon Lechuck being the most awesome followed by ghost, and I'm hoping Telltale will bring back a focus on those or create an awesome new one (maybe the pirate god form is a hint? or does living nice lechuck count as a form?)

11/04/2009, 01:45 pm	#10
Irishmile The Skipping Dead Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WI, its a paradise 3 months of the year Posts: 6,542	My favorite LeChuck is Zombie, my least fave is ghost.... Actually scratch that my least fave is Human... Sorry TTG but I did like it when he was evil in ToMI

11/04/2009, 02:08 pm	#11
Gryffalio The Orphanage Attacked ME Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: York Posts: 668	Good LeChuck was interesting. For me, the demon LeChuck was just boring because I didn't like the direction his character took after MI2. Ghost was alright (it was his original incarnation after all, and SoMI:SE did a good job with his sprite I think). Let's all pretend stone-LeChuck didn't exist! __________________ We'll drink beyond the boundaries of sense We'll drink 'til we start to see lovely pink elephants Inside our heads, inside our beds, inside the threads of our pyjama legs So don't shoot 'til you see the reds of our eyes And an army of elephants marching behind From the day I was born 'til the night I will die All my lovers will be pink and elephantine!

11/04/2009, 05:31 pm	#13
dr freeman 23 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: uk Posts: 5	i have to admit i was quite shocked of guybrush getting killed

11/05/2009, 08:19 am	#17
GaryCXJk Custom User Title User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Zaandam, the Netherlands Posts: 2,113	I guess I can see why TV Tropes has a field day with this forums.

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