Telltale Games

bigtopfrank · 11/19/2006, 10:21 pm

just thought i'd give mention to the fact that the member login boxes for the telltale site do not work on linux. by do not work i mean, they are not visible at all! i'm running kubuntu with firefox 1.5.0.7, i checked it with the native konquerer browser, and it's the same again.

it may have something to do with the fact that the flash plug for linux is versioned at 7, whereas the windows plug is currently at 9.

it's no matter . . . i had to get the internet going on my windows pc to activate my games anyway! so i just logged in then. just thought i'd let you know!

bigtopfrank · 11/21/2006, 04:45 pm

i may have solved my own problem . . .

after doing some searching, there is a beta of the v9 flash plugin for linux. i haven't tried it yet, but it may fix this problem. i may post the outcome when i get a chance to test it!

http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html

**Jake** · 11/22/2006, 02:00 pm

We're overlaying html over the top of a Flash movie to get the login box to work, and while that has been supported functionality for a long time at this point, I don't necesarilly know how Flash 7 would handle such a thing. It should be repsecting its z index (what layer it draws on) as specified in the html, putting it beneath the html containing the login box, but earlier versions of Flash might insist on drawing on top of everything.

bigtopfrank · 11/22/2006, 08:28 pm

i did actually install the flash 9 beta on my system, but it didn't help.

it may just be a linux issue with flash. i might keep toying round, if i can find a fix, i'll post it.

bigtopfrank · 11/23/2006, 12:19 am

yay!!! i've fixed it . . . thanks for your explanation, jake, as soon as you told me how it was done, i figured it out.

basically, there's a firefox add-on called 'flashblock'. i figured if it could block the flash, the html code would be visible. and it is!

only thing is though, people who prefer to have flash always turned on may benefit from disabling the plugin and only enabling it when they want to login to the telltale site!

if anyone else is looking for the plug, check here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/433/

ElusiveSpoon · 02/09/2007, 05:26 am

FYI, Flash 9 for Linux is no longer beta. Sadly it is not much more stable than Flash 7, and you'll need to kill FireFox a lot when viewing flash pages.

P.S. using flash on a website that doesn't need it is a horrible design choice.

coderjoe · 05/07/2007, 09:44 pm

I am also affected by this bug. It's quite annoying that I can't log into the forums when I'm in linux because someone decided to z-index normal HTML on top of a static flash document.

Is there any particular reason why the title bar navigation thing has to be flash? It doesn't animate, and as far as I can tell the only reason it is flash is to keep me from logging into the site when I'm in linux. :P

That aside, I love the site.

marsan · 05/08/2007, 02:33 pm

the solution for me, was to install IEs 4 Linux in linux, and visit the site using IE5.5 or IE6

In fact, that's where I am right now.

**Jake** · 05/08/2007, 02:59 pm

Fix coming soonish. Sorry for the time being, Linux guys!

marsan · 07/11/2007, 04:58 pm

I still have problems with the banner in linux

any chance that bumping this thread may speed up things a bit?

Maratanos · 07/15/2007, 04:15 pm

Yeah, I really gotta wonder why the heck you're using flash for the navbar, because it's so... UNNECESSARY.

Use a darned image map and get done with it. The reason you should be using flash is to create dynamic content, not a bunch of static links. That's like using Inform (a programming language for making text adventures) to make a Tetris game.

**Jake** · 07/16/2007, 12:15 pm

The navbar was supposed to become a lot more dynamic, so I set it up as Flash on day 1 with the plan of expanding it out to do more interesting things, but it got prioritized off the face of the earth, and is now just awkward and taking up space. I promise I'll take care of it eventually!

jmm · 07/17/2007, 10:36 am

Or at least provide an alternate link to login.

marsan · 12/02/2007, 03:48 am

I get around this problem by using Flashblock. It's a very handy tool for mozilla browsers which makes it possible to decide which flash objects a person want to see.

elsenator · 12/18/2007, 01:03 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by marsan

I get around this problem by using Flashblock. It's a very handy tool for mozilla browsers which makes it possible to decide which flash objects a person want to see.

This is what i do too. It works, but it's hack obviously :/

**Jake** · 04/07/2008, 10:54 am

Totally not flash anymore! Booyah.

Thanks to mikew for making it work!

Soultaker · 04/07/2008, 11:45 am

Nice job, it looks almost the same as the Flash version did too

If you ever do whip up a fancy flash bar you may want to consider making it just a bit smaller so you don't have to overlay the log-in corner to make it work; it's not as if in the log-in area needs to be any fancier. (Perhaps logging in without refreshing the page would be cool, but that can be accomplished just as well with AJAX.)

mikew · 04/07/2008, 07:47 pm

Yeah at some point in the future I would like to add some fancy AJAX stuff like the login you mentioned but also one thing we have talked about is having the cart portion of the navbar actually update when you add stuff to your cart rather than after you click around. Kind of swamped with stuff right now though (stay tuned!) but eventually it will happen

11/19/2006, 10:21 pm	#1
bigtopfrank aspiring sideshow freak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: australia Posts: 32	Flash bug on Linux just thought i'd give mention to the fact that the member login boxes for the telltale site do not work on linux. by do not work i mean, they are not visible at all! i'm running kubuntu with firefox 1.5.0.7, i checked it with the native konquerer browser, and it's the same again. it may have something to do with the fact that the flash plug for linux is versioned at 7, whereas the windows plug is currently at 9. it's no matter . . . i had to get the internet going on my windows pc to activate my games anyway! so i just logged in then. just thought i'd let you know!

07/15/2007, 04:15 pm	#11
Maratanos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 851	Yeah, I really gotta wonder why the heck you're using flash for the navbar, because it's so... UNNECESSARY. Use a darned image map and get done with it. The reason you should be using flash is to create dynamic content, not a bunch of static links. That's like using Inform (a programming language for making text adventures) to make a Tetris game. __________________ I'll combine your MOM with those items!

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11/21/2006, 04:45 pm	#2
bigtopfrank aspiring sideshow freak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: australia Posts: 32	i may have solved my own problem . . . after doing some searching, there is a beta of the v9 flash plugin for linux. i haven't tried it yet, but it may fix this problem. i may post the outcome when i get a chance to test it! http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html

11/22/2006, 02:00 pm	#3
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	We're overlaying html over the top of a Flash movie to get the login box to work, and while that has been supported functionality for a long time at this point, I don't necesarilly know how Flash 7 would handle such a thing. It should be repsecting its z index (what layer it draws on) as specified in the html, putting it beneath the html containing the login box, but earlier versions of Flash might insist on drawing on top of everything.

11/22/2006, 08:28 pm	#4
bigtopfrank aspiring sideshow freak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: australia Posts: 32	i did actually install the flash 9 beta on my system, but it didn't help. it may just be a linux issue with flash. i might keep toying round, if i can find a fix, i'll post it.

11/23/2006, 12:19 am	#5
bigtopfrank aspiring sideshow freak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: australia Posts: 32	yay!!! i've fixed it . . . thanks for your explanation, jake, as soon as you told me how it was done, i figured it out. basically, there's a firefox add-on called 'flashblock'. i figured if it could block the flash, the html code would be visible. and it is! only thing is though, people who prefer to have flash always turned on may benefit from disabling the plugin and only enabling it when they want to login to the telltale site! if anyone else is looking for the plug, check here: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/433/

02/09/2007, 05:26 am	#6
ElusiveSpoon Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4	FYI, Flash 9 for Linux is no longer beta. Sadly it is not much more stable than Flash 7, and you'll need to kill FireFox a lot when viewing flash pages. P.S. using flash on a website that doesn't need it is a horrible design choice.

05/07/2007, 09:44 pm	#7
coderjoe Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5	I am also affected by this bug. It's quite annoying that I can't log into the forums when I'm in linux because someone decided to z-index normal HTML on top of a static flash document. Is there any particular reason why the title bar navigation thing has to be flash? It doesn't animate, and as far as I can tell the only reason it is flash is to keep me from logging into the site when I'm in linux. :P That aside, I love the site.

05/08/2007, 02:33 pm	#8
marsan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 345	the solution for me, was to install IEs 4 Linux in linux, and visit the site using IE5.5 or IE6 In fact, that's where I am right now.

05/08/2007, 02:59 pm	#9
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	Fix coming soonish. Sorry for the time being, Linux guys!

07/11/2007, 04:58 pm	#10
marsan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 345	I still have problems with the banner in linux any chance that bumping this thread may speed up things a bit?

07/16/2007, 12:15 pm	#12
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	The navbar was supposed to become a lot more dynamic, so I set it up as Flash on day 1 with the plan of expanding it out to do more interesting things, but it got prioritized off the face of the earth, and is now just awkward and taking up space. I promise I'll take care of it eventually!

07/17/2007, 10:36 am	#13
jmm Fremen Fedaykin Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arrakis (also known as Dune) Posts: 1,177	Or at least provide an alternate link to login.

12/02/2007, 03:48 am	#14
marsan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 345	I get around this problem by using Flashblock. It's a very handy tool for mozilla browsers which makes it possible to decide which flash objects a person want to see.

04/07/2008, 10:54 am	#16
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	Totally not flash anymore! Booyah. Thanks to mikew for making it work!

04/07/2008, 11:45 am	#17
Soultaker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 250	Nice job, it looks almost the same as the Flash version did too If you ever do whip up a fancy flash bar you may want to consider making it just a bit smaller so you don't have to overlay the log-in corner to make it work; it's not as if in the log-in area needs to be any fancier. (Perhaps logging in without refreshing the page would be cool, but that can be accomplished just as well with AJAX.)

04/07/2008, 07:47 pm	#18
mikew Internet! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 84	Yeah at some point in the future I would like to add some fancy AJAX stuff like the login you mentioned but also one thing we have talked about is having the cart portion of the navbar actually update when you add stuff to your cart rather than after you click around. Kind of swamped with stuff right now though (stay tuned!) but eventually it will happen