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Old 02/15/2010, 03:19 am   #21
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Cannibals for sure, especially Lemonhead!
Mort too!
And just for continuity's sake (and to represent EfMI as not being a total flop) bring in Pegnose Pete and Largo LaGrande - part of a sinister gang...
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Old 02/15/2010, 03:23 am   #22
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Morgan. Her emotional arc is fascinating to follow. I also like Anemone, Hemlock, and Bosun Krebbs, though they need to be developed a little. Show me more of them. Write out a backstory - hint at it.

Also, Winslow. But he also needs to be developed. The map's funny and all, but it's gotten old. The guy needs a new twist.

I'd much rather see new, awesomely-written and well thought-out characters, though. Maybe hear a nice background story or two...

Actually, something like barber pirates, or rock and roll pirates (Van Helgen), or whathaveyou, would be fun. So, maybe opera singing pirates? Ship builder pirates?

It'd have to depend on the story. What kind of character fits this place? How do they contribute to the story? I like this take, from CMI co-leads Jonathan Ackley and Larry Ahern:

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We started by making a list of all the cool things about pirates that weren’t done in the first games: City sieges, ship battles, smuggler’s caves, volcanoes, “all-singing, all-dancing musical revues.” Then you see how they might fit into the story. You see if there’s a character from a previous game that fits with the new puzzle. If not, you create a new character. Then you add the inventory objects that give complexity to the original puzzles. Then at the very end, you go through and see if you have multiple inventory objects that can serve the same purpose. If so you throw one of them out.
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LA: Like, for example, we have a pirate barber shop called The Barbary Coast - y'know, pirate barbers: hey, that's fun!
(Interviews from the SCUMM Bar).

Everything feeds everything.

Less of the angry pirate, I mean. It'd be nice. Goodsoup and the Barbershop Quartet come to mind as good examples.

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Old 02/15/2010, 03:30 am   #23
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I would bring back Santino, who is the coolest. He is the personification of a strong silent type who is better than others in everything.
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Old 02/15/2010, 03:38 am   #24
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And just for continuity's sake (and to represent EfMI as not being a total flop) bring in Pegnose Pete and Largo LaGrande - part of a sinister gang...
Not a bad idea, that one. I like the idea of a fierce pirate gang.
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Old 02/15/2010, 04:31 am   #25
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Also, I know I'm being a traitor to my username, but I don't care if we don't see the Men of Low Moral Fiber or not. They're not especially compelling or even memorable if you ask me.
But that's kinda the point, ain't it ?
Part of the reason these guys were fun is that they were pretty much useles. Just a bunch of lazy butts sitting there doing nothing with a couple of funny lines and some junk you can use for a puzzle.
I don't understand why they got scrapped, because it seems hard to screw them up. They can fit in pretty much any town and they don't have much of a special personality that a writer should respect to get them "right".
Their presence or absence doesn't really change much as far as the whole game is concerned, but they'd still be a nice nod to the earlier ones.
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Why all the Morgan love? Is it all about her breasts?
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Old 02/15/2010, 07:45 am   #27
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Why all the Morgan love? Is it all about her breasts?
Why would anyone love animated breasts?

Maybe people like her, because the character is written to rather sympathetic.

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She's evil, she's weak, she's not funny and she's ugly. I don't see why people like her, neither why she has to come back in future games
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Old 02/15/2010, 08:50 am   #29
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Why woudl anyone love animated breasts?
The simple fact that you're asking confuses me. Lots of people love animated (or otherwise drawn, sculpted and so on) breasts.

This being said, I don't think her breasts are her main feature. She's a complex character and feels very human. I think a lot of people can relate to her. I personally think she's the more realistic character in the whole series (which I guess can be a good or a bad thing).
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The simple fact that you're asking confuses me. Lots of people love animated (or otherwise drawn, sculpted and so on) breasts.

This being said, I don't think her breasts are her main feature. She's a complex character and feels very human. I think a lot of people can relate to her. I personally think she's the more realistic character in the whole series (which I guess can be a good or a bad thing).
I don't know why he wanted to underline pleasantness or unpleasantness of Morgan's breasts, when the game isn't focused to her breasts. And when it comes to works of art, sure breasts can be aesthetically pleasing also in the art. But I doubt that people actually love animated breasts, not at least in same manner as they love real breasts.
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Old 02/15/2010, 12:19 pm   #32
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Herman Toothrot, no Tales supporting characters returns please. I don't like Winslow and Morgan. At all. Why all the Morgan love? Is it all about her breasts? She's evil, she's weak, she's not funny and she's ugly. I don't see why people like her, neither why she has to come back in future games.
Since when did being evil qualify for anyone to hate a character?

Also, seriously, Morgan doesn't have big animated boobs. Boobies. Bazongas. Pineapples. Bananas. Pointer sisters....cough.

THESE are big animated boobs. Boobies. El Guapos. Atomic Bombs. Watermelons...cough.











Now compare that to this.



You tell me which characters win the overendowed, dependent on boobs for a fanbase category. And which characters have to depend on strong writing and being empathetic.
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I don't hate her, I just can't see why all the obsession with her
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Maybe some people go a bit overboard. I may be guilty of that myself. But she was a well developed (no pun intended) well made character. She had a connection with Guybrush that was strong and interesting, and her character evolved more than most of the characters in MI ever get to. It's not obsession. We're fans of her because we recognize what a well done character she was.
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I still prefer Heman to come back, though
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Old 02/15/2010, 12:32 pm   #36
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Bring back DeSinge!
He could have discovered the secret of immortality, but it had to result in death (live as a ghost/zombie scientist). Or he didn't anticipate death and comes back because of discoveries as a ghost.

That'd be awesome as "you can't stop science!"
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I don't hate her, I just can't see why all the obsession with her
Well, she was all right character and I wouldn't mind seeing her again in future games, but there are also other good characters (like Santino) whom I would like to see again. Sometimes people get overexcited about something, but I don't see it as a good reason to dislike Morgan or Winslow.

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I would love to see him too, but I do like original Herman a lot more than I like EFMI's Herman.
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I'm not obsessed by her, but she was my favourite new character. I'd be fine with her not coming back although I expect she will.

I don't think she has big breasts. I think she wears a corset which flattens her breasts while showing more cleavage on top.
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Next time I should count how many times variations of the word "breasts" appears in a topic or discussion about Morgan, just out of curiosity. My bet goes to OVER 9000!
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Next time I should count how many times variations of the word "breasts" appears in a topic or discussion about Morgan, just out of curiosity. My bet goes to OVER 9000!
BOOBIES!

Seriously though, I don't think she's a character who particularly calls for that type of discussion.
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