Controls for Escape?

[monkey_05_06]

Originally Posted by StarEye

I'm appalled that you, self-proclaimed knower of it all, forgot to mention the Amiga version, which was considered the best, as the case always was with Amiga versions. But you also forgot that the PC was the lead platform for which it was developed, and all the others are basically just ports. Hence, it's not wrong to say the series originated on the PC. Though to say EMI has anything to do with consoles is wrong, since it's engine is based on Grim Fandango, which was only ever released on PC if I remember correctly.

I never called myself "knower of it all" so calling me a "self-proclaimed knower of it all" is ridiculous.

I was just citing some information from Wikipedia. You are correct in that I forgot in my revisions of my post to include the Amiga version. However, the fact of the matter is that EFMI was released on a console which by definition makes it a console game. Just because PC is the primary platform doesn't change that fact.

Besides, all a console is internally is just a specialized computer designed with the purpose of gaming. Which is why ultimately PCs have more potential for power since things like the CPU, RAM, and even the motherboard can be switched out at will.

[Irishmile]

Not to mention Escape didn't control like all the other ones... so hooking up a controller didnt feel sacrilegious at all

[StarEye]

Originally Posted by monkey_05_06

I never called myself "knower of it all" so calling me a "self-proclaimed knower of it all" is ridiculous.

I was just citing some information from Wikipedia. You are correct in that I forgot in my revisions of my post to include the Amiga version. However, the fact of the matter is that EFMI was released on a console which by definition makes it a console game. Just because PC is the primary platform doesn't change that fact.

Besides, all a console is internally is just a specialized computer designed with the purpose of gaming. Which is why ultimately PCs have more potential for power since things like the CPU, RAM, and even the motherboard can be switched out at will.

The "knower-of-it-all" part was just a joke, since you felt so inclined to correct The Highway. I merely said it to point out the irony that you were correcting someone else, while being equally inaccurate.

Just because a game is released on console, doesn't make it a console game. The game had controls that fit well for a console, but that's just the result of the direction they took with Grim Fandango. It's a PC game that's ported to other platforms. And I was referring to the original game. It's fair to say that Monkey Island is a a series series of PC games that have been ported to several platforms. Also, the discussion was wether Monkey Island was considered a PC game or not, not just EMI in specific.

Metal Gear Solid 2 also exists on PC. Does that make it a PC game? I'd call that primarly a console game.

[monkey_05_06]

A game can be both a PC game and a console game. It is possible. And "porting" indicates that the game was designed and released for a specific platform and then later re-released on another platform. A simultaneous release across multiple platforms (despite whichever may be considered as the "primary" platform) does not count as a port.

SoMI and EFMI were released simultaneously as PC and console games and are such. I'm not contesting that it is primarily a PC-oriented series, I was just pointing out the fact that the statement about treating the MI series as having anything to do with consoles was completely off.

Oh, and based on the way I'm reading Wikipedia, MGS2 was originally released exclusively on PS2. So I would consider that as having been ported to PC and not actually a "PC game" (unlike SoMI and EFMI which were originally released on consoles as well as PC which make them both PC and console games).

IMO anyway.

[StarEye]

Originally Posted by monkey_05_06

A game can be both a PC game and a console game. It is possible. And "porting" indicates that the game was designed and released for a specific platform and then later re-released on another platform. A simultaneous release across multiple platforms (despite whichever may be considered as the "primary" platform) does not count as a port.

SoMI and EFMI were released simultaneously as PC and console games and are such. I'm not contesting that it is primarily a PC-oriented series, I was just pointing out the fact that the statement about treating the MI series as having anything to do with consoles was completely off.

Oh, and based on the way I'm reading Wikipedia, MGS2 was originally released exclusively on PS2. So I would consider that as having been ported to PC and not actually a "PC game" (unlike SoMI and EFMI which were originally released on consoles as well as PC which make them both PC and console games).

IMO anyway.

EMI came later on the PS2, and not at the same time. Otherwise, I would've played that. Thus it's a port.

SoMI SE came on PC and consoles simultanously, but not the original SOMI. I'm pretty sure SMI (the original) came out on PC first, and later ported to different platforms. And I bet the console versions came last (Amiga or Atari ST isn't a console). Nevertheless, the original SMI are basically ports from the PC version, and the PS2 version of EMI is a port of the PC version.

But seriously, this is just nitpicking. If we don't agree, we don't agree.