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Old 04/09/2010, 03:05 pm   #21
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The Joker was tacked on. Sure, it was a great performance by Mark Hamill, and the Joker was both terrifying and diabolical. But he was out of place.
Pretty much agreed. The Joker just didn't feel like he fit into the more grounded mobster story that the film was going for.

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And they ruined the ending of it by showing whats-her-name still alive. I mean, so what, what happened to the Joker? Did he die? I thought they both died...but yet there SHE is. So was her whole quest for NOTHING? EXPLAIN, MOVIE! EXPLAIN!!
Considering the series moves on and he shows up later, the Joker got away. This also happened in Batman/Superman, actually. And I don't think whats-her-name needed to be alive for the film, but my guess is they wanted to use her later. And then the movie bombed. So they didn't. Also, you watch too much That Guy With the Glasses.

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Now I will admit some things the movie did beautifully was the portrayal of Bruce Wayne/Batman, which was the best in the series. The humor was spot on, as was Alfred, and the romance, and the action. The look and feel of the movie was great, and it was a very well written mystery.
Pretty much this. The scene that really hooks me, and sets this film up as my favorite though, is Bruce's scene with his parents' grave. It's just so perfect, so well shows Bruce right before the transformation. It always gives me chills. Everything from the music, to the art, to the acting, to the "cinematography" of the scene....it could have come off very hammy, but it didn't, because it was just executed perfectly.

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Personally my favorite Batman movie is The Batman-Superman Movie. I love the dynamic with Batman and Superman contrasted with the dynamic between Lex Luthor and The Joker. And of course Harley Quinn and Lex's...eh...driver also had a small sub rivalry? The whole thing was done very well, and it's a very underrated classic.
This is actually up there for me. It kind of goes Phantasm/Dark Knight/Batman Begins/Return of the Joker/Batman and Superman. These are all REALLY excellent films, though, that all can really be on the top of the list.

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However, on an unrelated note, my favorite DC animated movies fall somewhere in-between Batman-Superman, Wonder Woman, or Green Lantern: First Flight.
I'm not really big on the new DC animated films. I've been renting them through Netflix, and I'm finding myself, I dunno...

They're fun enough, and I don't regret watching them, but they're just not "exceptional". On the other hand, I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing Red Hood, and one of the Gotham Knights shorts was awesome, the "Working Through Pain" one. It was one of the maybe two watchable shorts in the bunch, but it was excellent.
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Old 04/09/2010, 03:07 pm   #22
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I met Adam West at dragoncon 2008. I asked him to sing the Adam West Song from that one episode of Family Guy. He got halfway through and stated that he was glad that was what he'd be remembered for. It even made me feel bad.

This is a true story, too. I kid you not.
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Old 04/09/2010, 03:21 pm   #23
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I met Adam West at dragoncon 2008. I asked him to sing the Adam West Song from that one episode of Family Guy. He got halfway through and stated that he was glad that was what he'd be remembered for. It even made me feel bad.

This is a true story, too. I kid you not.
Well, It's either being remembered for Batman or Family guy...wich..damn those are the the only two things I remember him for.
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Old 04/09/2010, 03:29 pm   #24
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Well, It's either being remembered for Batman or Family guy...wich..damn those are the the only two things I remember him for.
The sad part is that I don't even really like the campy Batman, still... West seemed a rather amicable fellow.
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Campy Batman is the best.
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Old 04/09/2010, 03:59 pm   #27
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Actually, I do find campy batman to be more entertaining to watch. But that's just me and I can understand why others may not like it.
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This is actually up there for me. It kind of goes Phantasm/Dark Knight/Batman Begins/Return of the Joker/Batman and Superman. These are all REALLY excellent films, though, that all can really be on the top of the list.
For me it's Return of the Joker/Batman-Superman/Adam West Batman(I just like it as a comedy)/The Dark Knight/Batman Begins/Mask of the Phantasm/Batman 89/Mystery of the Batwoman/Batman Subzero/Batman Forever/Batman and Robin/Batman Returns.

And you can never watch too much That Guy With The Glasses. I need to watch Subzero again.
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The responses so far have been great. It's hard to keep track of everything but that's somewhat expected

Anyways, what are your expectations to the new Christopher Nolan film? I hope that they'll bring back two-face, considering how lame his death was in the dark knight. I also hope to see the penguin and the riddler as a team.
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Old 04/11/2010, 09:11 am   #31
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The responses so far have been great. It's hard to keep track of everything but that's somewhat expected

Anyways, what are your expectations to the new Christopher Nolan film? I hope that they'll bring back two-face, considering how lame his death was in the dark knight. I also hope to see the penguin and the riddler as a team.
I saw a mock-up poster that cast Neil Patrick Harris as The Riddler.

I could totally see that working.

I honestly don't know what they're going to do. The story arc for the trilogy can't really go "up" from here. It has to escalate somehow. Maybe R'as should come back, considering he's immortal and all.

Or, you know, they could steal Music Meister from Brave and the Bold.
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I saw a mock-up poster that cast Neil Patrick Harris as The Riddler.

I could totally see that working.

I honestly don't know what they're going to do. The story arc for the trilogy can't really go "up" from here. It has to escalate somehow. Maybe R'as should come back, considering he's immortal and all.

Or, you know, they could steal Music Meister from Brave and the Bold.
I don't doubt for a second that Neil Patrick Harris as the riddler could work. They could also cast Rob Halford as Music Meister

I'm serious.

Anyways, I read somewhere that this is going to be the last batman movie from Christopher Nolan. The question is if they're going to pass the director role to someone else or make a finale with good closure. I'm crossing my fingers for the latter.
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I don't doubt for a second that Neil Patrick Harris as the riddler could work. They could also cast Rob Halford as Music Meister
Neil Patrick Harris was the voice of Music Meister in Brave and the Bold, so I couldn't see anyone else playing him. =P
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I can really see the guy who plays Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory as Edward Nigma/The Riddler.

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Old 04/11/2010, 05:21 pm   #35
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Neil Patrick Harris was the voice of Music Meister in Brave and the Bold, so I couldn't see anyone else playing him. =P
Fair 'nuff. I weren't being serious about the whole "being serious" bit anyways

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They are very similar characters in a lot of ways, so it's easy to imagine Sheldon as the riddler but that would be like seeing Bruce Campbell from the Evil dead movies starring as a character different then Ash. Totally out of place
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I honestly don't know what they're going to do. The story arc for the trilogy can't really go "up" from here. It has to escalate somehow.
I think I heard somewhere that he (Nolan) was talking about how he wanted to end his Batman story with the third film. I think he said something about how comics go on indefinitely but that isn't the case with films. He said that once he realised this, he realised how he could make the third film really well (so I'm assuming it ends with Batman's death or at least retirement). I'm paraphrasing huge amounts, though.

I also heard something about Nolan doing a Superman film... I can't wait to see how that will work out. I absolutely love all of the films of his I've seen so far (momentum, the prestige and the batman movies come to mind), so I can't see him messing it up.

Edit: I just found this article: http://www.newsarama.com/film/christ...an-100310.html It has all the quotes I was (poorly) paraphrasing.
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I think I heard somewhere that he (Nolan) was talking about how he wanted to end his Batman story with the third film. I think he said something about how comics go on indefinitely but that isn't the case with films. He said that once he realised this, he realised how he could make the third film really well (so I'm assuming it ends with Batman's death or at least retirement). I'm paraphrasing huge amounts, though.
I don't know. As much as I love unconventional endings, I can't see that working well with Nolan's Batman. The guy really isn't even through the starting leaps of his career. He is just now to the point where he has become the "real Batman". Cut off from any real love interest, taken down a few supervillians, and he has the trappings of the universe only now in place.

I could see an ending that leaves things open, though some closer with R'as would be nice.


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I also heard something about Nolan doing a Superman film... I can't wait to see how that will work out. I absolutely love all of the films of his I've seen so far (momentum, the prestige and the batman movies come to mind), so I can't see him messing it up.
He is going to have a "producer/mentor" role. Another person will be directing, but Nolan apparently has his hands in it at a pretty high level.
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I'like The Killing Joke comic , and I shocked when I saw the ending !
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I hate it. Too cliché explanation for a master supervillain like Joker.
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