CSI 4: Hard Evidence announced!

[Bones]

I am so looking forward to this game since I read about it. I loved the other ones and could not put them down once i started playing them.

CSI3 was awesome with the graphics so i am sure the new game will be just as good if not better.

Be nice to have a few more than 5 senarios though...even though they take a little while they seem to be over to quick

[DesignerGreg]

Thank you Tarahiro and Bones!

It's so nice to hear that it's addictive to others - we're so close to it that I miss having that perspective...

[Dangerzone]

are you going to add a few new cases as the year goes on, and make them avalable over the internet (like sam and max) or will the five cases on the disc be all we see of interactive csi untill 2008

[DesignerGreg]

DZ - that is a great question to ask Ubisoft!

[Dangerzone]

it seems that this thread has gone cold, again
so i contacted ubisoft and i got the usual bull "we are glad you have taken an intrest in our future csi projects..................blah, blah, blah"

so i contacted penelope, a friend of mine in the ubisoft P.R. department, and while she is not directly involved with the csi franchise............she did tell me this,

- Hard evidence and the ps2 version of TDOM are the only two currently planned csi games for 2007

- it is unlikely that new cases will be released for the csi games over the internet because they will not get as much exposure as the game itself (because most players do not go searching the internet for new cases) and because loose files (not on the original disc) are easily lost if the user ever deletes the game and must be backed up or re-acquired

- it appears that the voice alikes for sara and catherene are not the same as in the last game, the new voice alikes are used in the actual tv show for dialoge re-recording all the time

it also seems that ubisoft may persue the cast of csi new york for a future csi title because they may have access to the entire cast, which is smaller and thus less expensive than the vegas cast..............and the ubisoft already has the gaming rights over csi and csi miami so it would not be hard to get the rights to csi ny as well, so a NY game is indeed possible (i know a lot of people have been curious about this)

i also found out that telltale is not alowed to release or say anything without ubisoft approval under threat of fines or loss of the franchise rights, so do not pressure them to give us any new screenshots of the game...............they will give us what they can when they can untill the game is released, and it seems that they are in the dark on some things just like us (P.S. i am sorry for pressing so hard earlier, i did not know this)

[rudyst1]

im so pyshed about the new csi game. it sucks that telltale is keeping everyhing a secret and wont tell us anything yet. i mean, there isint even a trailer for the game. the game is going to come out in about a month. there hasnt even been new screens for the game since december. and about the csi new york game dangerzone mentioned, how come they havent made a csi ny game. they made a las vegas, and a miami. so why not a new york yet? why does telltale need ubisofts approval to show anything to us. there is nothing bad that can happen if they show us anything that they are working on right now.

[Dangerzone]

first i suspect that the release of hard evidence will be similar to the release of TDOM, so we will not see the game trailer or website untill a few weeks after the release date.................we will definately see 1 or 2 more sets of screenshots in febuary, but i think that will be it

second, telltale faces fines if they give us screenshots of the new csi game that are not approved by ubisoft, because ubisoft controlls the franchise and telltale just has creative control. so in short every thing goes through ubisoft, and they are notorisly stone faced................but do not worry there will be more shots to come, ubisofts usual M.O. is to release about 15 screenshots of a new game over a 3-5 month period before release

why hasnt there been a csi ny game?...................because the show has only been on for 2-1/2 years, and if you recall the miami game was nat made untill that show was in its 3rd season...............so if a new york game is ever made, it will most likely be next year, and mind you this is still just heresay, A CSI NY GAME HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED YET. as far as i know, any 2008 csi game has not been ordered by ubisoft yet

but we are getting ahead of ourselves here.............lets keep the discussion to hard evidence untill after it is released, then we can discuss the 2008 game

[rudyst1]

hey dangerzone will u keep me posted if u get new screens for the csi game?
and will u keep us updated on anything new u find out about the game or telltale

[Dangerzone]

sure thing, but i think that the telltale staff will be the first to post anything if anything new is approved.................. they even posted the 4 screenshots on my forum when they were released

if you want to you can check us out at www.csigamer.com/forums
we are a small site devoted to the csi videogames, where people can go to chat about and ask for help on the csi games................. we heven have some of the telltale staff drop in on us from time to time, feel free to drop and look me up (i am a moderator over there)

[rudyst1]

k thanks very much

[rudyst1]

hey dangerzone do u think that the garage lab and lab mini games are gonna be what really makes the csi fans heads spin? i mean, do u think its actually gonna be a pretty good feature added on?

[Dangerzone]

yes i do, most of the fans like a lot of added features and interactivity like mini games, puzzles, and activites to immerse themselves in the game and lengthen the time it takes to play a case

i think that the garage is a cool idea, if we get to thoroughly search through cars.................look in gloveboxes, under seats, check the trunk, look under the car, and maybe even take the car apart a little (like they do in the shows sometimes)

and given the csi lab in the previous csi game, i wonder how they are going to top it this time around.............. my idea that i pitched them last year was for them to have the lab be a free roam area with seperate lab rooms with diffrent equipment in each room, rather than have everything in just one room

it also sounds like the moble lab is returning for this game as well, i know that this was a hit last year, and i hope that we see it more than just 1 or 2 times this time around (hopefully it will always be avalable)

i also recall talking last year with one of the games creators and he said that they may try to make an entire 3d crime scene kit that opens and you drag things out of this year, rather than just have a wheel with tool icons on it again................. but if they implicated this or not is unknown

[rudyst1]

hey dangerzone do u think its cool to have a csi game where it is a third person and u could customized your look in the game. it could also be cool if u could actually drive the moble lab to your crimescene. instead of having 5 cases to solve, there can be a free roam world of las vegas, and u could drive to ur crimescenes when a crime happens. or maybe take it to the next level. there are endless possiblilities. maybe when your at your crimescene and a suspect comes out with a gun, you could use your gun to kill that person.

[Dangerzone]

one thing that quite a few of fans have been somewhat disappointed at is the fact that your character is nameless, faceless, and voiceless............... they do this to put you in the perspective of a csi, and to suggest that the main character is you. but i think that it will be a welcome change to have a main character created for the games (one not in the show), and for us to get to play that person. and maybe they can even have a backstory for that character as well, but have his story be mysterious, and have us learn little bits and peices about him as we progress through the cases................. and maybe have the final case deal directly with him (maybe he was the victim of a unsolved shooting years earlier himself, and in the final case he discovers who did it)

i also like the idea a 3rd person free roam game, because some of the sets in the game are just too beautiful to be limited to just one limited semi-panoramic view .................. but i also like the cinematic quality of the first person cameras, so i would like to see a blend of both camera types.............. 3rd person while in the lab and during free roams, and 1st person while processing crime scenes, examining evidence, and interviewing people

the idea for a partial city that you can drive around is neat as well, but i think that driving back and fourth from locations to the lab will get annoying after a while................ so i think that that idea is a no go, although i like your idea about clearing a location the first time you arrive by going though with your gun drawn and checking for anyone/anything in the rooms

[rudyst1]

hey i just thought of something. why cant they make a csi game where u go to court and present your evidence to the jury just like the law and order game. and based on how u present your evidence, the jury decides if the suspect is guilty or not guilty. it would also be pretty cool to help doc robbins perform an autopsy just like david does in the show.
and for exampe it would be pretty cool if u lose in a murder trial and the suspect goes free, and in another case the suspect returns and tries to target you for testifying against him.

[Dangerzone]

your idea for the virtual autopsy sounds familiar............... because i pitched the idea myself last year, but since then i have come to realize that a 3d autopsy may be too much for some people, although it may be cool to have a limited version of this where you pull a bullet out of a victim as dr robbins, but nothing too gross or over the top

another cool feature that they could add is a layout room where the victims clothes and personal effects are spread out on a table for you to process

and the csi shows rarely show the court side of the justice system.............. because csi is about the mystery of who did it (and because most people find court cases boring) . but it may be interesting to have a story where we work on a cold case, and have all the old evidence spread out on the layout table and we have to search it for new clues that were not possible to find when the case was originally committed

[rudyst1]

hey what u said about the 3d kit that they might put in csi is a great idea. i wonder how it would look like if they do this feature for hard evidence.

hey it would be cool if u could ask the interigating questions in csi instead of just the pop up questions. of course if u need help, there could be pop up questions if u need help. hey it would be cool to have a csi 3-d game. u know kinda like 3-d movies. when they are showing the flashbacks, it would be cool if you could see the flashback and almost the whole game in 3-d. that would for sure i think blow peoples minds off.

[Dangerzone]

no i think that typing your own questions into the game is somewhat long and troublesome............. but i think that it would be cool if you get to choose the tone of how you ask the questions, and to have the characters respond differently to certain tones of voice, and lines of questioning

i also found the U.K. cover art for hard evidence

[Jake]

Heh hey nice.

That looks like temporary art though, something Ubisoft whipped up just so online retailers will have some box art to post on their "Coming Soon" pages.

I'm pretty sure the final one will have some pictures of the cast on the cover and stuff.

[Dangerzone]

you mean like this....................



i remember last year when the pre-release shots of the TDOM cover looked like the one below (the similarity is shocking to the new hard evidence cover huh?)............ so i am expecting the hard evidence cover art to change as well, i should have noted this in my earlier post