Monsters Inc. sequel announced

[jeeno0142]

I think over the years pixar have just got better and better. There's no way they could stuff this up! I recon a monsters inc. 2 would be superb!

Yay for the muppets movie too!

[MusicallyInspired]

Ugh...not more sequels. I thought Pixar was above sequels. Dreamworks Animation makes sequels to EVERYTHING. I always looked at Pixar movies as never needing sequels or needing to capitalize on a franchise at all to rake in dough. I see Disney's handiwork in this....

Pixar is losing momentum in my eyes...

[Secret Fawful]

Oh yes. Sequels are evil. Completely terrible. They should never be made.



Or maybe some of you are OVERREACTING.

And I don't want to hear "Oh you can't use Empire Strikes Back as an example because hardly any sequels have been made of that caliber". That's bullshit.

[Avistew]

I'm certainly not trying to say sequels can't be good (although a) I didn't like any of the Star Wars movies and b) I thought there were planned to be several of them from the start).

I just get worried about Disney sequels, or sequels for the sake of sequels. Surely you know what I mean? Sequels made so the people who liked the first one are sure to come back, and you don't have to come up with all the characters, and often not even with the story itself.

I hope it will be good, I'm just worried.

[Friar]

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

Oh yes. Sequels are evil. Completely terrible. They should never be made.



Or maybe some of you are OVERREACTING.

And I don't want to hear "Oh you can't use Empire Strikes Back as an example because hardly any sequels have been made of that caliber". That's bullshit.

Starwars was built to be a saga right from the biginning (Darth Vader being knocked away). The likes of Cars and Monsters Inc all had their respective stories wrapped up nicely. They don't really have any plotends that need tying up, and monsters inc definately doesn't seem like the type of film that could be explored further.

[Secret Fawful]

Originally Posted by avistew

I just get worried about Disney sequels, or sequels for the sake of sequels. Surely you know what I mean? Sequels made so the people who liked the first one are sure to come back, and you don't have to come up with all the characters, and often not even with the story itself.

Originally Posted by Friar

Starwars was built to be a saga right from the beginning (Darth Vader being knocked away). The likes of Cars and Monsters Inc all had their respective stories wrapped up nicely. They don't really have any plotends that need tying up, and monsters inc definitely doesn't seem like the type of film that could be explored further.

You mean like-





which were sequels to-



and were incredible. I'm not saying Monsters Inc 2 would be incredible, I'm saying sequels don't automatically suck.

[Avistew]

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

I'm not saying Monsters Inc 2 would be incredible, I'm saying sequels don't automatically suck.

We're not saying that. We're just worried because Pixar went from "sequels are overdone and we'll make sure not to have too many of them" to "let's have lots of sequels now".
Maybe their sequels will be awesome. There can be great sequels, including sequels that are much, much better than the (sometime sucky) first one. It just sounds like they're all "forget about what I said before!", and since I don't trust Disney with sequels, and have been given no reason to trust Pixar so far, I'm worried.

But as long as it doesn't prevent them from making movies that aren't sequels as well, I guess whatever. I don't have to see them anyways.
Especially the Cars one, I never even saw the first one

[GaryCXJk]

Yeah... I'll just wait until the movies come out before I actually judge. It's pretty hypocritical to say no to sequels of good movies and say yes to sequels of good game series.

Monkey Island much?

[Avistew]

Originally Posted by GaryCXJk

Yeah... I'll just wait until the movies come out before I actually judge. It's pretty hypocritical to say no to sequels of good movies and say yes to sequels of good game series.

Monkey Island much?

People complain just as much about sequels to games, don't they?

[Secret Fawful]

Well, I don't trust Disney sequels either. But hey, I liked Toy Stoy 2 as much as Toy Story 1. Because I didn't like Toy Story to begin with at all.

[GuybrushWilco]

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with sequels. Look at Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Superior to the original in every way. I think I read somewhere that Pixar has a policy of not making sequels unless they have a story idea that is better than the original, so I don't think they will arbitrarily make sequels. Also, I hope the new Muppet movie is as good as A Muppet Christmas Carol, or Muppet Treasure Island

Also, I don't think a good sequel has to continue the story of the first one to be good. It can just be a new story with the same characters, but as long as the new story is good, what is there to complain about?

[Avistew]

Coming back on the game thing, I've been thinking...

I think we might be more used to games as a series/license, like the Mario games, the Zelda games, etc, and quicker to expect sequels to games while a "normal" movie stands alone.

And of course for those games, such as Grim Fandago, that did work on their own and wrapped things up nicely, people tend to think that they shouldn't make a sequel, too.

Sequels can be very good, but quite often it's either a rehash of the prevous story (either the same or the opposite), or a story that's so completely different that if feels like the story was forced onto characters that didn't work for it. I personally felt that way for Runaway 2 (I know, it's a game, not a movie). Let's just say it felt like a) the main character I had grown to love in the first game didn't exist anymore and b) they were trying to force characters from the first game back into the second one.

It just didn't work as well as the first game for me. That happens all the time with movies, animated or not.

On the other hand, there ARE sequels I like better than whatever it's a sequel to.

At any rate, be it movies, books, games, etc, I tend to prefer when it was thought of as a series, rather than the first one made and "hey, I should add more" when it's successful. Keeping in mind that there is the option of "I would to more, but in the meantime I'll try to make something that can stand alone, while leaving room for the sequel I'm thinking of".

[The Highway]

I honesty think Toy Story was better than Toy Story 2, and Toy Story 3 will be better than 2 as well.

[LowMoralFiber]

Originally Posted by GinnyN

I liked better Toy Story 2 than Toy Story...

This. Disney doesn't know how to do sequels, but Pixar has done at least one damn good one! We'll see if they continue the trend. I don't care too much, because I didn't really like Monsters Inc all that much, but I suppose it's the movie that had the least final conclusion...

[GinnyN]

Originally Posted by LowMoralFiber

This. Disney doesn't know how to do sequels, but Pixar has done at least one damn good one! We'll see if they continue the trend. I don't care too much, because I didn't really like Monsters Inc all that much, but I suppose it's the movie that had the least final conclusion...

Don't put me as a example.

I must admit I watched first Toy Story 2, so that could affected.

[Avistew]

Originally Posted by GinnyN

Don't put me as a example.

I must admit I watched first Toy Story 2, so that could affected.

No need to put yourself down You're allowed to prefer the second one and it doesn't seem you were the only one.
I guess it's possible the order you saw them in made a difference, but then again maybe not.

[Chyron8472]

Bad Disney sequels:

Lion King 1½ and 2
Pocahontas 2
Jungle Book 2
Peter Pan 2
Aladdin 2 and 3
Cinderella 2
Little Mermaid 2
Mulan 2
Lilo & Stitch 2 ("Stitch!")
Beauty & the Beast: Enchanted Christmas
Lady & The Tramp 2
Fox and the Hound 2
The Hunchback Of Notre Dame 2

...among others, I'm sure.


Here's a useful tip: If Disney makes any movie sequel that goes straight to home video, IT SUCKS.

[Secret Fawful]

Originally Posted by Chyron8472

Lion King 1½ and 2
Jungle Book 2
Aladdin 2
Lilo & Stitch 2 ("Stitch!")
[also Lilo and Stitch The Series]

I quoted the ones I liked. I may have to rewatch them with a critical view to tell for sure though.

[MusicallyInspired]

Originally Posted by avistew

We're not saying that. We're just worried because Pixar went from "sequels are overdone and we'll make sure not to have too many of them" to "let's have lots of sequels now".

This. Maybe some OTHER people are overreacting....

Also, The only GOOD Disney sequel EVER MADE was The Rescuers Down Under. That was an amazing sequel that was FAR better than the original. I also liked Lion King 1 1/2, though. Because it's so funny. And I have all 3 Aladdin movies because Aladdin was my favourite Disney movie as a kid. I remember my parents bought me the comic of the first movie before the movie came out. Fond memories reading that as a kid and wondering how it would be in a movie. Only to be blown away by how it was presented in movie form compared to the comic book.

Good times...

[Secret Fawful]

If you mean me, uh, I really don't see how I am. I'm just saying because I can't tell.