Monkey Island and Zelda: Wind Waker

[Teeth]

Anyone ever noticed that Zelda: Wind Waker (And Phantom Hourglass) has a lot of parallels with the Monkey Island series? Off the top of my head;

-The entire world seems to be made up of an endless ocean with various gimmicky islands, and it is populated by pirates who are never seen doing anything particularly dangerous.

-The main character (Link/Guybrush) is a clumsy blonde guy who seems to be the only one aware of how bizarre and silly everyone around him is, and picks up extremely good swordfighting skills in a very short amount of time.

-The main character has a talking boat at one point (King of Red Lions/The Dainty Lady) who turns out to be more important than they initially appear.

-The main character's female companion (Tetra/Elaine) is loved and respected by everyone, and tends to have a bit of a temper. She is also very capable of looking after herself, yet also gets kidnapped later on.

-Anachronisms everywhere; Wind Waker has cameras, Monkey Island has...well, mostly everything.

-The crewmates either disrespect the hero (Most of Tetra's pirates, Linebeck/Guybrush's crews in Secret and Curse) or idolize him (Niko/Winslow)

-The hero is repeatedly fired out of a cannon, much to his discomfort.

-The villain keeps coming back and just won't die ever, and usually when he returns it's in a new form. (Ganon/LeChuck)

-Erm...there is a character named Tetra?

-And one from Ocarina of Time instead of Wind Waker: The hero is hit on by a fishlike merperson (Ruto the Zora/Anemone the Vaycalian) and does not enjoy it at all.

I'd have to say the similarities became more obvious when Tales came out, being a 3D game with a gorgeous cartooney art style.

[Hayden]

Well done, I suddenly feel compelled to play Wind Waker for the first time.

[caeska]

Wind Waker is a great game. I never thought about all these similarities, but in essence they are two completely different games. Well done indeed.

[Joop]

Yeah, I've noticed the similarities before.
The Wind Waker is a great game too. It has a really great feel for exploration and adventure.
Too bad it's a tad on the short side...

[Captain Mickey]

Wow. Now I really need to go and look for Wind waker, just because of all those similarities....that's actually pretty neat/funny.

[Chyron8472]

It's a great game. Just be aware that there's quite a bit of sailing from island to island in Wind Waker (manually, not Indy-esque lines on maps). It's not a bother to me, but some people complain who are used to walking everywhere as in Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess.

Originally Posted by Joop

Too bad it's a tad on the short side...

Mmm.... wait wut? No it's not. If by 'short' you mean it only has 7 dungeons, one of which you go through twice... wait, no that's still sufficiently long.

[StarEye]

Since Wind Waker is more of a fantasy world, than a semi-realistic world from the past, I don't think Wind Waker can be said to have anachronisms.

[MusicallyInspired]

Wind Waker was better than I thought it'd be. I did think all the sailing was mega-boring though. In fact, near the end when you go underwater to the hidden land of Hyrule I was excited at the notion of being able to walk around the whole country! Alas, you can only walk on a set path.....

Kinda makes me want to play WW again now. Or finish Twilight Princess on my second runthrough on the Wii (my first runthrough was on the Gamecube). Zelda is great. Too bad it's been going downhill lately. Never got very far in PH (due to boredom) and I'm not going anywhere near Spirit Tracks. Hopefully the new Wii title in the works wil be better than the aforementioned DS titles.

[Friar]

I'd never noticed those before!

[hplikelike]

Way when this form first begun, I remember a post in which people compared MI to just about anything. It's not that hard...
But I guess I'll add my two bits,
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Windwaker was the first Zelda game I ever beat, and Tales of Monkey Island: Chapter one: Launch of the Screaming Narwhal was the first MI game I've ever beat.

And both have swords.
And Mer-people.

[Wolfstar27]

Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

Kinda makes me want to play WW again now. Or finish Twilight Princess on my second runthrough on the Wii (my first runthrough was on the Gamecube)

you know your Twilight Princess on the Gamecube is really rare, hold onto it

[MusicallyInspired]

I wanted the Gamecube version because I didn't have a Wii when it first came out. I was quite upset that the Gamecube version was actually released AFTER the Wii version. Oh well, at least it showed up in enough time to make it for that Christmas. An there's no way I'm getting rid of it. Or any of my Zelda games:



Twilight Princess Wii is missing from this pictures because I hadn't acquired it yet. Also I used to have Minish Cap but I lost it . And I'm not going near Spirit Tracks.

[Avistew]

Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

Twilight Princess Wii is missing from this pictures because I hadn't acquired it yet. Also I used to have Minish Cap but I lost it . And I'm not going near Spirit Tracks.

My copy of Minish Cap was "lost" (possibly stolen) and same with my copy of Oracle of something (can't remember which of the two).

Any reason you want to avoid Spirit Tracks? I've really been enjoying it.

[MusicallyInspired]

Well, Phantom Hourglass turned out to be a snooze-fest and trains in a Zelda game sounds retarded. And if it's as boring as PH was it's not worth the money.

[Avistew]

Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

Well, Phantom Hourglass turned out to be a snooze-fest and trains in a Zelda game sounds retarded. And if it's as boring as PH was it's not worth the money.

Fair enough I guess. I did like Phantom Hourglass too so it's possible you'd hate Spirit Tracks. Although I like Spirit Tracks better.
Also, I'm sure lots of people would have thought the same of boats when Windwaker came out. But it worked. And trains in Spirit Tracks work in my opinion.

I guess if you really didn't like Hourglass you won't like it though, since it's in the same spirit.
Get it? Spirit?

[MusicallyInspired]

I got it .

Boats seems a little more fitting for a fantasy setting than trains. I didn't mind boats in WW. I did mind having to sail around on endless seas, though. Not enough land in that game.

[Avistew]

Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

Boats seems a little more fitting for a fantasy setting than trains. I didn't mind boats in WW. I did mind having to sail around on endless seas, though. Not enough land in that game.

Really? I don't see why...
Okay, maybe I see why, in the way that these weren't steamboats. But still, Final Fantasy has steampunk-like magic and it works for their boats and flying stuff, so why not trains?

I guess horse carriages would have felt better to you? That would of course remove the whole "you have to stay on the tracks" thing.

I don't know, I felt it really worked, it actually made me wonder why the previous Zelda games didn't have trains yet

[MusicallyInspired]

Final Fantasy is a bizarre fantasy/futuristic world. It has technology AND magic. Zelda takes place in a fictional historical fantasy setting. Pre-industrial. There's not a lot of technology in Zelda and there shouldn't be. You can't compare Zelda to Final Fantasy. (I realise that the Oocoos in Twilight Princess had technology, but that's more of an ancient race that developed technology...like Atlantis. Nothing to do with the people who live in Hyrule who are and have always been pre-industrial)

[Avistew]

But Windwaker has cameras. How is that less shocking than trains?

[Gman5852]

Originally Posted by Avistew

But Windwaker has cameras. How is that less shocking than trains?

And Phantom Hourglass had steam boats.