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*GuruGuru214* · 09/04/2012, 04:19 am

Got home almost an hour and a half ago, at precisely 5 AM. I'm making Iced take a rest before they start the drive back to Fawful's. I had the most unbelievable weekend, and not only did I get to see and play some amazing new games and get some incredible swag, but I feel like I started new friendships and strengthened some old ones. I will never forget the last few days.

Giant Tope · 09/04/2012, 05:06 am

Feeling a little better. Gee that was weird. Maybe I was feeling some sort of seperation anxiety. Iunno.

I have a lightsaber now regardless.

RetroVortex · 09/04/2012, 05:15 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant Tope

Hey wow I feel awful all the sudden. Why am I even alive?

I'm feeling the same kind of blues too...

(Going walking helps. I did that today, just stuck my headphones on and drifted around town. Made me feel slightly better detatching myself from reality. Then again, I'm a pretty odd duck so YMMV)

Also I feel really drained from my walk today.
I think it was my longest one yet. I left about 10:30 and came back at about 1pm.
Walked all the way to town and back only really resting for my lunch.

I think the more lonely/depressed I am, the longer these walks tend to be.

Infact I might go down the path again tomorrow and just rest on the grass.

Its just so confusing I guess. Knowing what sort of person I am now.
A similar kind of person to Shakespeare and Blake, its almost as if I'm two people at once, the nerdy kid that plays video games and surfs the web, and goes to work and wants to own his own company and develop software to make a comfy living, and the artsy soul who yearns to go out and explore and learn, and create. Its hard juggling the two, especially within a society that supresses both of those personas, and the two personas themselves fight each other constantly for control over this vessel.

Overall, I'm this huge mess of random thoughts and impulses, never focused enough to make myself brilliant, and never stable enough to be happy.

...

I think I'm going to go upstairs and brood a bit.

coolsome · 09/04/2012, 05:29 am

Here's to you, Nicola and Bart
Rest forever here in our hearts
The last and final moment is yours
That agony is your triumph.

DAISHI · 09/04/2012, 06:28 am

Don't be afraid to use Prozac, kids.

Giant Tope · 09/04/2012, 06:37 am

Its not so much that im afraid of meds, though ill be honest by saying that I do feel a little uncomfortable with the idea, so much as I dont have access to that kind of treatment. Or any kind of mental treatment for that matter.

I have no idea if what I experience is even considered worth clinicly treating.

Johro · 09/04/2012, 07:10 am

Long term treatment is NOT worth it. I was on anti-depression medication(as well as seeing a psychiatrist) for ten years. You know what it's like for an intelligent self-aware individual? It's like being forced to be a right-wing extremist. It's like being bullheaded. You literally CANNOT think a certain way. You CANNOT think about the thoughts that lead to your severe depression.

It's great at first, but after a while, the inhibiting nature of medication began to really bother me. Adults or children, I would highly recommend not taking medication for more than a couple years. I have clinical depression and some days are worse than others, but still feel better than being on medication. You just need to surround yourself in things and people that make you happy and can help you through those bad days. No, you cannot just think happy thoughts and make it go away. It doesn't work that way, however, doing things that normally make you happy, can help you feel better.

In the end, all you can really do, is try to take life with a grain of salt and try to make the most with what you have. It's harder for some than others, but pulling yourself out of the crippling stages that come now and then, is something we all have to learn to do. "This is what we have, this is the hand we've been dealt, this is all we can do, fuck it, I'm going to make the most of it, I may be in a very dark place right now, but I'm going to go do something I enjoy. It's better than doing nothing."

It's not easy, but life's short enough the way it is. Might as well fill it doing stuff you like(even with all the bad that comes with it). There's no reason to make it even shorter.

**puzzlebox** · 09/04/2012, 07:17 am

It's probably worth seeing a doctor to get a professional view on it. I absolutely agree with Johro though. My personal opinion is that medication may be useful to help get through a bout of depression in response to a sad life event, but long-term meds are something to be extremely cautious about.

I also find that doctors in the US are WAY too quick to push the pharmaceutical solution. In my first checkup here my cholesterol was in the upper range of normal, and the doc said "yeah if that gets higher we might look to put you on statins to bring it down". WTF?! You're not going to ask about my diet and lifestyle at all? Tell me about preventative measures? Just throw some drugs at it or whatever and to hell with the expense and the side effects? Fk that.

Johro · 09/04/2012, 07:27 am

Wasn't there an issue in the 'States about doctors getting kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies? Was that just in certain places, a freak occurrence, or still going on?

**puzzlebox** · 09/04/2012, 07:42 am

Don't know anything about that, but to be honest I wouldn't be surprised. I feel sorry for people who trust doctors implicitly and wouldn't think to question their advice.

Giant Tope · 09/04/2012, 08:26 am

I guess my main concern with myself is the fact that I get a lot of seperation anxiety, sometimes cripplingly so, but isnt that something that only occurs with infants? Its also really hard to stay focused and finish things and I also have a lot of memory issues. I unno.

I have no idea what to do.

DAISHI · 09/04/2012, 08:44 am

It's unique to EVERY individual. One persons desire to get off the meds is not the answer to another persons NEED to be on it for the rest of their lives. Your personal experiences are not adequate venues for prescribing behavior to a person with a mental issue because you cannot extrapolate subjective experience to a population.

*Vainamoinen* · 09/04/2012, 08:52 am

Today I went to the post office ready to kill whoever was behind the counter.

Thankfully, the man immediately owned up to their fuckup.

Still, my friend's birthday is TODAY and she doesn't get her present before Thursday because the German post is unable to distinguish addressee and addresser... and had delivered the thing right back to me.

**puzzlebox** · 09/04/2012, 09:00 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAISHI

It's unique to EVERY individual. One persons desire to get off the meds is not the answer to another persons NEED to be on it for the rest of their lives. Your personal experiences are not adequate venues for prescribing behavior to a person with a mental issue because you cannot extrapolate subjective experience to a population.

Hence why I said "long-term meds are something to be extremely cautious about", rather than "long-term meds are something to avoid entirely in all cases".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant Tope

I have no idea what to do.

See a doctor so you can at least get an informed medical opinion.

Iryon · 09/04/2012, 09:03 am

So, I just came home from a hard day of work in a pharmacy and wanted to relax a bit by reading my favourite section of these forums ... AND YOU FOLKS KEEP POSTING ABOUT MEDICATION ALL THE TIME!

Avistew · 09/04/2012, 09:10 am

Separation anxiety isn't unique to infants by any means. And anxiety can be treated, either by taking something regularly, or just when you know you're going to be triggered.

Medication can really help, I think the ideal is always to be able to get off it eventually, and only use it to get past the hardest problems, but it's a kickstart that can really be needed. Without it, you can just get stuck in a bad place with no apparent mean to get out of it. On it, you can still see that you're in a shitty situation, but there is a sense of "hey, I can survive this, and then I'll be better" that starts creeping in, and it can be very useful to keep your sanity.

In the end, not seeing a professional because you don't think they can help you is definitely not the best idea: even if there is a chance that they can't help (which is doubtful, with the modern progress that has been made), that chance is 100% if you don't ask them to begin with.
They might not have meds that can help, but they might help you with the underlying issues that cause it.

Johro · 09/04/2012, 09:20 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAISHI

It's unique to EVERY individual. One persons desire to get off the meds is not the answer to another persons NEED to be on it for the rest of their lives. Your personal experiences are not adequate venues for prescribing behavior to a person with a mental issue because you cannot extrapolate subjective experience to a population.

While my first paragraph was more of a broad statement regarding the whole, my second was about personal experience and the third was more of opinion, both of which backing up my statement. I would assume the reader would categorise it as an opinion piece rather than factual. After all, I do not have any degrees in psychology or psychiatry and only have personal experience to reflect upon.

I could really go for some watermelon right about now.

**puzzlebox** · 09/04/2012, 09:27 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avistew

In the end, not seeing a professional because you don't think they can help you is definitely not the best idea: even if there is a chance that they can't help (which is doubtful, with the modern progress that has been made), that chance is 100% if you don't ask them to begin with.
They might not have meds that can help, but they might help you with the underlying issues that cause it.

Exactly. A doctor might recommend non-pharmaceutical help like cognitive behavioural therapy, which I have seen do very good things for people. Basically knowledge is power, you're better off at least knowing where you stand rather than doing nothing.

Giant Tope · 09/04/2012, 09:59 am

I thought I mentioned the fact that im not sure if my insurance covers trips like that. Ill ask hr today, but I dont think I have that kind of coverage. Honestly, I just want to make sense of my brain.

*GuruGuru214* · 09/04/2012, 10:59 am

Iced and Fawful just hit the road. My PAX trip is officially over.

09/04/2012, 04:19 am	#32881
GuruGuru214 Crazy Windmill Mod Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kakariko Windmill Windmill Status: Going Around Posts: 6,344	Got home almost an hour and a half ago, at precisely 5 AM. I'm making Iced take a rest before they start the drive back to Fawful's. I had the most unbelievable weekend, and not only did I get to see and play some amazing new games and get some incredible swag, but I feel like I started new friendships and strengthened some old ones. I will never forget the last few days. __________________ The preceding post was made by a volunteer community moderator, not a Telltale Games employee, and does not reflect the opinions of Telltale Games. Remember, only you can prevent forum fires. Completed series runs: Kingdom Hearts (Timeline Order, Pre-DDD, 10/25/10 - 2/6/11) - Zelda (Release Order, 3/13/11 - 4/6/12) - Metroid (Timeline Order, 4/21/12 - 10/17/12)

09/04/2012, 05:06 am	#32882
Giant Tope bashful little whaleshark Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Portland Posts: 2,171	Feeling a little better. Gee that was weird. Maybe I was feeling some sort of seperation anxiety. Iunno. I have a lightsaber now regardless. __________________ I am a dinosaur. BUT! i am hiding.

09/04/2012, 05:29 am	#32884
coolsome Sam D Coolsome Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: England Posts: 5,935	Here's to you, Nicola and Bart Rest forever here in our hearts The last and final moment is yours That agony is your triumph. __________________

09/04/2012, 06:28 am	#32885
DAISHI TELLTALE STEALTH NINJA Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,988	Don't be afraid to use Prozac, kids. __________________ "Hah! It's like we don't even have feelings. Now pardon me while I recline in my huge executive chair and guffaw, cigar in-hand. " "ill just go with what Winslow always when something that funny about a location in monkey island is said"

09/04/2012, 06:37 am	#32886
Giant Tope bashful little whaleshark Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Portland Posts: 2,171	Its not so much that im afraid of meds, though ill be honest by saying that I do feel a little uncomfortable with the idea, so much as I dont have access to that kind of treatment. Or any kind of mental treatment for that matter. I have no idea if what I experience is even considered worth clinicly treating. __________________ I am a dinosaur. BUT! i am hiding. Last edited by Giant Tope; 09/04/2012 at 06:39 am.

09/04/2012, 07:10 am	#32887
Johro Person Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Icy Wasteland of Canada Posts: 1,727	Long term treatment is NOT worth it. I was on anti-depression medication(as well as seeing a psychiatrist) for ten years. You know what it's like for an intelligent self-aware individual? It's like being forced to be a right-wing extremist. It's like being bullheaded. You literally CANNOT think a certain way. You CANNOT think about the thoughts that lead to your severe depression. It's great at first, but after a while, the inhibiting nature of medication began to really bother me. Adults or children, I would highly recommend not taking medication for more than a couple years. I have clinical depression and some days are worse than others, but still feel better than being on medication. You just need to surround yourself in things and people that make you happy and can help you through those bad days. No, you cannot just think happy thoughts and make it go away. It doesn't work that way, however, doing things that normally make you happy, can help you feel better. In the end, all you can really do, is try to take life with a grain of salt and try to make the most with what you have. It's harder for some than others, but pulling yourself out of the crippling stages that come now and then, is something we all have to learn to do. "This is what we have, this is the hand we've been dealt, this is all we can do, fuck it, I'm going to make the most of it, I may be in a very dark place right now, but I'm going to go do something I enjoy. It's better than doing nothing." It's not easy, but life's short enough the way it is. Might as well fill it doing stuff you like(even with all the bad that comes with it). There's no reason to make it even shorter. Last edited by Johro; 09/04/2012 at 07:23 am.

09/04/2012, 07:17 am	#32888
puzzlebox Telltale Team Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,674	It's probably worth seeing a doctor to get a professional view on it. I absolutely agree with Johro though. My personal opinion is that medication may be useful to help get through a bout of depression in response to a sad life event, but long-term meds are something to be extremely cautious about. I also find that doctors in the US are WAY too quick to push the pharmaceutical solution. In my first checkup here my cholesterol was in the upper range of normal, and the doc said "yeah if that gets higher we might look to put you on statins to bring it down". WTF?! You're not going to ask about my diet and lifestyle at all? Tell me about preventative measures? Just throw some drugs at it or whatever and to hell with the expense and the side effects? Fk that.

09/04/2012, 07:27 am	#32889
Johro Person Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Icy Wasteland of Canada Posts: 1,727	Wasn't there an issue in the 'States about doctors getting kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies? Was that just in certain places, a freak occurrence, or still going on?

09/04/2012, 07:42 am	#32890
puzzlebox Telltale Team Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,674	Don't know anything about that, but to be honest I wouldn't be surprised. I feel sorry for people who trust doctors implicitly and wouldn't think to question their advice.

09/04/2012, 08:26 am	#32891
Giant Tope bashful little whaleshark Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Portland Posts: 2,171	I guess my main concern with myself is the fact that I get a lot of seperation anxiety, sometimes cripplingly so, but isnt that something that only occurs with infants? Its also really hard to stay focused and finish things and I also have a lot of memory issues. I unno. I have no idea what to do. __________________ I am a dinosaur. BUT! i am hiding. Last edited by Giant Tope; 09/04/2012 at 08:30 am.

09/04/2012, 08:44 am	#32892
DAISHI TELLTALE STEALTH NINJA Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,988	It's unique to EVERY individual. One persons desire to get off the meds is not the answer to another persons NEED to be on it for the rest of their lives. Your personal experiences are not adequate venues for prescribing behavior to a person with a mental issue because you cannot extrapolate subjective experience to a population. __________________ "Hah! It's like we don't even have feelings. Now pardon me while I recline in my huge executive chair and guffaw, cigar in-hand. " "ill just go with what Winslow always when something that funny about a location in monkey island is said"

09/04/2012, 08:52 am	#32893
Vainamoinen Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,634	Today I went to the post office ready to kill whoever was behind the counter. Thankfully, the man immediately owned up to their fuckup. Still, my friend's birthday is TODAY and she doesn't get her present before Thursday because the German post is unable to distinguish addressee and addresser... and had delivered the thing right back to me. __________________ Moderators on the TTG forums are all volunteers from the community and still belong to the community. They are not employees of the company. The opinions expressed in their posts are those of individual fans and must not be confused with official company statements.

09/04/2012, 09:03 am	#32895
Iryon Demonic Poisoner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 175	So, I just came home from a hard day of work in a pharmacy and wanted to relax a bit by reading my favourite section of these forums ... AND YOU FOLKS KEEP POSTING ABOUT MEDICATION ALL THE TIME!

09/04/2012, 09:10 am	#32896
Avistew I<3>1 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Posts: 5,051	Separation anxiety isn't unique to infants by any means. And anxiety can be treated, either by taking something regularly, or just when you know you're going to be triggered. Medication can really help, I think the ideal is always to be able to get off it eventually, and only use it to get past the hardest problems, but it's a kickstart that can really be needed. Without it, you can just get stuck in a bad place with no apparent mean to get out of it. On it, you can still see that you're in a shitty situation, but there is a sense of "hey, I can survive this, and then I'll be better" that starts creeping in, and it can be very useful to keep your sanity. In the end, not seeing a professional because you don't think they can help you is definitely not the best idea: even if there is a chance that they can't help (which is doubtful, with the modern progress that has been made), that chance is 100% if you don't ask them to begin with. They might not have meds that can help, but they might help you with the underlying issues that cause it.

09/04/2012, 09:59 am	#32899
Giant Tope bashful little whaleshark Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Portland Posts: 2,171	I thought I mentioned the fact that im not sure if my insurance covers trips like that. Ill ask hr today, but I dont think I have that kind of coverage. Honestly, I just want to make sense of my brain. __________________ I am a dinosaur. BUT! i am hiding.

09/04/2012, 10:59 am	#32900
GuruGuru214 Crazy Windmill Mod Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kakariko Windmill Windmill Status: Going Around Posts: 6,344	Iced and Fawful just hit the road. My PAX trip is officially over. __________________ The preceding post was made by a volunteer community moderator, not a Telltale Games employee, and does not reflect the opinions of Telltale Games. Remember, only you can prevent forum fires. Completed series runs: Kingdom Hearts (Timeline Order, Pre-DDD, 10/25/10 - 2/6/11) - Zelda (Release Order, 3/13/11 - 4/6/12) - Metroid (Timeline Order, 4/21/12 - 10/17/12)

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