Telltale Games

taumel · 07/25/2010, 06:29 am

@Armakuni
Wow, i've never seen this Amiga game before, at least i can't remember it, which somehow is the same, at least for me. These rectangle placed rock platforms kind of remind me of The Chaos Engine.

I almost forgot about the dino in it...

taumel · 07/25/2010, 05:47 pm

Quick hack (OSX x86) for JP audiophiles...now even a slightly bit pimped..:...hoppla, nicht stolpern!

Toothless Gibbon · 07/26/2010, 08:26 am

No real-time renderer created to date is "photorealistic"

Whatever example you can show is always distinguishable from photos.

taumel · 07/27/2010, 07:02 am

Quick hack 2, just had to do it in the nur-mal-kurz-nach-Luft-schnappen-Pause.

Obviously with advanced and approved photorealistic rendering, just for your very own stimuli. No need for porn sites anymore!

LikaLaruku · 08/04/2010, 11:25 pm

If Jurassic Park had high standards, they wouldn;t have royally messed up on their palentology fact checks.

My rig is old & overheats, so if it's realistic it will naturally hammer on my rig. I wouln't be able to buy it until I could get a new CPU, graphics card, & an extra fan (cheaper than getting a whole new rig).

Stop demanding state of the art graphics & start demanding better stories & gameplay. Most of the developers (& even animators) are putting too much of their budget into how it looks & pointless celebrity voice acting & not enough into how it works or how fun it is. Do like Bathesda & leave the improved graphics to the modding commuunity.

If some other company was doing JP, then I would expect realistic graphics, but when I think of TellTale or Spicey Horse/American McGee, I think of "interactive cartoons" & I like it to look like a cartoon. I'm expecting JP & BttF to look like the rest of their games do.

waroftheworlds01 · 08/05/2010, 11:00 am

I'm not worried about photorealistic graphics. I've never been picky about graphics. As long as the story and gameplay was fun the graphics didn't have to be over realistic.

As long as there no major bugs. It's one to thing to complain that the characters don't look real. It's another to complain about pop-ins or framerates. The look of the characters doesn't effect the gameplay as much as pop-ins.

Javi-Wan Kenobi · 08/13/2010, 01:40 am

Well, the in-game images from the new CSI game trailer give me hopes for the look of the Jurassic Park game. It seems they have hugely improved their "photorealistic" rendering since the last CSI game.

mightypiratetm · 08/13/2010, 02:23 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javi-Wan Kenobi

Well, the in-game images from the new CSI game trailer give me hopes for the look of the Jurassic Park game. It seems they have hugely improved their "photorealistic" rendering since the last CSI game.

The graphics are awesome but telltale tool still needs some work on the rendering to reach the photorealistic graphics

phaedon · 08/14/2010, 09:09 am

The graphics are quite decent, but the cast models...yuck. All the other character models are good though.

thesporkman · 08/14/2010, 11:07 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by phaedon

The graphics are quite decent, but the cast models...yuck. All the other character models are good though.

Yeah, it looks like they're reusing the models from their earlier CSI games, which looks a little jarring in their new engine. That angry-looking looking guy who appears in the trailer after the caption "Work with the FBI" I think is a new model, and he looks pretty good.

phaedon · 08/14/2010, 11:38 am

Nah, it's not that. I have been playing the CSI series since the very first games (the ones that weren't developed by TTG), and these models are from CSI: Deadly Intent, the previous game in the series.

It's that it's difficult to make a real person's 3D model look like the real person. But still, the 3DoM or the HE models were better, compare this guy:

To this guy (Hard Evidence/3 Dimensions of Murder):

And this guy (Fatal Conspiracy/Deadly Intent):

Over on YouTube people will scream, 'ololol bad graphix suk rainbow 6 vegas 3 ftw'
Appart from failing to distinguish the difference between "graphics" and "models" or "textures", they have obviously not played an adventure game lately.

Here are a few pics from some of the best lately (imo):

To sum up, the CSI:FC graphic engine (Sam and Max's engine) is very good for a adventure game, and most models (apart from the cast and the SWAT models) are very nice. Now, you should start worrying for the animation which looks a bit awkward in the trailer

Trenchfoot · 08/14/2010, 06:52 pm

It's not that much about the graphics. It's the lighting that does the trick.
Just look at the original JP scenes. Most of the scenes that featured dinosaurs are at night. Why? Because it looks so damn better. If those scenes would have been shot with day light the T-Rex would have looked fake.

waroftheworlds01 · 08/14/2010, 11:07 pm

I have to dissagree with you on that. I'll admit that lighting goes a long way when dealing with special effects but the scene where the T-Rex attacks a gallimimus in daylight looks very convincing.

Infact, it's amazing how well the special effects still hold up even today. A lot of movies that come out now look less convincing than Jurassic park.

Anywho, I'm sure Telltale will go all out when making the dinosaurs and other character modles for this game.

jp-30 · 08/15/2010, 12:34 am

Yeah, all the flocking, running dinosaurs and the big sauropods look amazing from when Dr Grant first explores the island, and they're all in bright daylight.

Trenchfoot · 08/15/2010, 10:38 am

Yes, I agree that practically every scene looks perfect, but I was just saying that if Telltale can't afford better graphics, they can always trick the lights to make it look better

waroftheworlds01 · 08/15/2010, 11:04 am

Ah, okay. You're right.

A bit off topic but one of the current games I'm playing is Doom 3 on my computer. That game is crazy dark but it really adds to the atmosphere to the game and it also hides some of the imperfections in the character modles.

Telltale could take the same approach if need be.

jannar85 · 08/18/2010, 01:00 pm

Do remember that they work on their engine and improves it for every release. Like with Sam & Max: Season 3.. Have you looked at the detail level everywhere??

Links: http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/images/06/53/65334_orig.jpg
http://buttonbasher.files.wordpress..../07/header.jpg

compared to the first one:
http://images.gfx.no/366/366402/SamMax1.jpg

At least I put my faith in Telltale. They are known not to disappoint fans

russell19831983 · 09/01/2010, 11:47 am

that disk would never fit in a computer

keeperxiii · 09/05/2010, 04:58 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by russell19831983

that disk would never fit in a computer

I think I'm lost here...

As for the graphics, they will be awesome in every sense.

Trenchfoot · 09/07/2010, 09:25 am

I think they'll do just fine (check the 1:35 mark)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHFZ-Ecd_ek

07/25/2010, 06:29 am	#81
taumel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,654	@Armakuni Wow, i've never seen this Amiga game before, at least i can't remember it, which somehow is the same, at least for me. These rectangle placed rock platforms kind of remind me of The Chaos Engine. I almost forgot about the dino in it... Last edited by taumel; 07/25/2010 at 06:38 am.

07/25/2010, 05:47 pm	#82
taumel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,654	Quick hack (OSX x86) for JP audiophiles...now even a slightly bit pimped..:...hoppla, nicht stolpern! Last edited by taumel; 07/27/2010 at 12:35 pm.

07/26/2010, 08:26 am	#83
Toothless Gibbon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 933	No real-time renderer created to date is "photorealistic" Whatever example you can show is always distinguishable from photos. __________________ "Threepwood told me he'd found a sunken chest with no booty. It was my wife."

07/27/2010, 07:02 am	#84
taumel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,654	Quick hack 2, just had to do it in the nur-mal-kurz-nach-Luft-schnappen-Pause. Obviously with advanced and approved photorealistic rendering, just for your very own stimuli. No need for porn sites anymore! Last edited by taumel; 07/27/2010 at 12:34 pm.

08/04/2010, 11:25 pm	#85
LikaLaruku Everybody to the limit! Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 281	If Jurassic Park had high standards, they wouldn;t have royally messed up on their palentology fact checks. My rig is old & overheats, so if it's realistic it will naturally hammer on my rig. I wouln't be able to buy it until I could get a new CPU, graphics card, & an extra fan (cheaper than getting a whole new rig). Stop demanding state of the art graphics & start demanding better stories & gameplay. Most of the developers (& even animators) are putting too much of their budget into how it looks & pointless celebrity voice acting & not enough into how it works or how fun it is. Do like Bathesda & leave the improved graphics to the modding commuunity. If some other company was doing JP, then I would expect realistic graphics, but when I think of TellTale or Spicey Horse/American McGee, I think of "interactive cartoons" & I like it to look like a cartoon. I'm expecting JP & BttF to look like the rest of their games do. Last edited by LikaLaruku; 08/04/2010 at 11:36 pm.

08/05/2010, 11:00 am	#86
waroftheworlds01 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 866	I'm not worried about photorealistic graphics. I've never been picky about graphics. As long as the story and gameplay was fun the graphics didn't have to be over realistic. As long as there no major bugs. It's one to thing to complain that the characters don't look real. It's another to complain about pop-ins or framerates. The look of the characters doesn't effect the gameplay as much as pop-ins.

08/13/2010, 01:40 am	#87
Javi-Wan Kenobi Adventure Gaming Jedi Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Estella, Navarra, Spain Posts: 1,060	Well, the in-game images from the new CSI game trailer give me hopes for the look of the Jurassic Park game. It seems they have hugely improved their "photorealistic" rendering since the last CSI game.

08/14/2010, 09:09 am	#89
phaedon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 149	The graphics are quite decent, but the cast models...yuck. All the other character models are good though.

08/14/2010, 11:38 am	#91
phaedon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 149	Nah, it's not that. I have been playing the CSI series since the very first games (the ones that weren't developed by TTG), and these models are from CSI: Deadly Intent, the previous game in the series. It's that it's difficult to make a real person's 3D model look like the real person. But still, the 3DoM or the HE models were better, compare this guy: To this guy (Hard Evidence/3 Dimensions of Murder): And this guy (Fatal Conspiracy/Deadly Intent): Over on YouTube people will scream, 'ololol bad graphix suk rainbow 6 vegas 3 ftw' Appart from failing to distinguish the difference between "graphics" and "models" or "textures", they have obviously not played an adventure game lately. Here are a few pics from some of the best lately (imo): To sum up, the CSI:FC graphic engine (Sam and Max's engine) is very good for a adventure game, and most models (apart from the cast and the SWAT models) are very nice. Now, you should start worrying for the animation which looks a bit awkward in the trailer

08/14/2010, 06:52 pm	#92
Trenchfoot Watching you... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Argentina Posts: 712	It's not that much about the graphics. It's the lighting that does the trick. Just look at the original JP scenes. Most of the scenes that featured dinosaurs are at night. Why? Because it looks so damn better. If those scenes would have been shot with day light the T-Rex would have looked fake. __________________ Tales of Monkey Island: The Unofficial Soundtrack Professional Pirate - Max: The King of Broadway - The Plagues of Monkey Island

08/14/2010, 11:07 pm	#93
waroftheworlds01 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 866	I have to dissagree with you on that. I'll admit that lighting goes a long way when dealing with special effects but the scene where the T-Rex attacks a gallimimus in daylight looks very convincing. Infact, it's amazing how well the special effects still hold up even today. A lot of movies that come out now look less convincing than Jurassic park. Anywho, I'm sure Telltale will go all out when making the dinosaurs and other character modles for this game.

08/15/2010, 12:34 am	#94
jp-30 Lint Miner Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,735	Yeah, all the flocking, running dinosaurs and the big sauropods look amazing from when Dr Grant first explores the island, and they're all in bright daylight.

08/15/2010, 10:38 am	#95
Trenchfoot Watching you... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Argentina Posts: 712	Yes, I agree that practically every scene looks perfect, but I was just saying that if Telltale can't afford better graphics, they can always trick the lights to make it look better __________________ Tales of Monkey Island: The Unofficial Soundtrack Professional Pirate - Max: The King of Broadway - The Plagues of Monkey Island

08/15/2010, 11:04 am	#96
waroftheworlds01 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 866	Ah, okay. You're right. A bit off topic but one of the current games I'm playing is Doom 3 on my computer. That game is crazy dark but it really adds to the atmosphere to the game and it also hides some of the imperfections in the character modles. Telltale could take the same approach if need be.

08/18/2010, 01:00 pm	#97
jannar85 Drunk on the pic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 392	Do remember that they work on their engine and improves it for every release. Like with Sam & Max: Season 3.. Have you looked at the detail level everywhere?? Links: http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/images/06/53/65334_orig.jpg http://buttonbasher.files.wordpress..../07/header.jpg compared to the first one: http://images.gfx.no/366/366402/SamMax1.jpg At least I put my faith in Telltale. They are known not to disappoint fans __________________ - Atle Ragnar Jarnæs Lerøy Become a fan of Roger Foodbelly @ Facebook Our adventure game in the works. Also, you should check out Atle's Spotify: http://open.spotify.com/user/jannar85

09/01/2010, 11:47 am	#98
russell19831983 Sam Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: In my building Posts: 267	that disk would never fit in a computer

09/07/2010, 09:25 am	#100
Trenchfoot Watching you... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Argentina Posts: 712	I think they'll do just fine (check the 1:35 mark)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHFZ-Ecd_ek __________________ Tales of Monkey Island: The Unofficial Soundtrack Professional Pirate - Max: The King of Broadway - The Plagues of Monkey Island

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