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Old 06/30/2010, 07:30 pm   #1
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Default Problem with 3rd puzzle? *spoilers* (gnomes on shelves & room number spoilers inside)

In the Gnegative Gnomes puzzle, both the top left and top right gnomes are identical yet one of the is the right answer and the other is not. I chose the top left one because when you flip it the inner thumb would not be visible, however its twin is the right answer for some reason. Maybe i'm mistaken about something.

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Old 06/30/2010, 07:37 pm   #2
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Think Negative...


Look at the inverted colors



Check a particular piece item



Once you have discarded the wrong group, check faces and hands
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Old 06/30/2010, 08:00 pm   #3
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How about the Room Number ? I am so totally baffled
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Old 06/30/2010, 09:51 pm   #4
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How about the Room Number ? I am so totally baffled
*nod* that ones got me confused also. I even burned all the hints and can't make any sense out of it...I've been staring at my phone keypad for 10 minutes now
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Old 06/30/2010, 09:55 pm   #5
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solution: "NINE"

how do you make spoiler tags?

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Old 06/30/2010, 10:28 pm   #6
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I understand now. I made an untrue assumption that the figures were randomly mirrored because they were moved in between the time the picture was taken and when you arrive there. In real 3D space this of course does not make sense, but I was taking into account that the Gnomes are 2D renders in the game and not actually 3D. Basically I terribly over-thought a simple issue.
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Old 06/30/2010, 10:33 pm   #7
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*nod* that ones got me confused also. I even burned all the hints and can't make any sense out of it...I've been staring at my phone keypad for 10 minutes now
Tilt your head sideways, and think about spelling out a number instead of the number itself.

I know the answer's already in this thread but hey.

Also, that is a weird puzzle.
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Old 07/01/2010, 12:45 am   #8
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And here I thought it was sideways Roman Numerals and was trying to figure out what XIXE would be.
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And here I thought it was sideways Roman Numerals and was trying to figure out what XIXE would be.
You're not the only one...
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Old 07/01/2010, 07:02 am   #10
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I thought it was in binary, and that the parallel lines at the bottom were an = sign; until I read the second hint
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Old 07/01/2010, 11:10 am   #11
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Tilt your head sideways, and think about spelling out a number instead of the number itself.

I know the answer's already in this thread but hey.

Also, that is a weird puzzle.
I wrote the lines in a paper and I tried to actually figure out the numbers in, well, numerals. Suddely, I decided to turn the notebook, and I read it.

Then I felt silly, but I solved this one ^^!
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Old 07/01/2010, 01:56 pm   #12
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I was also very confused with this one. I payed attention to the shirts, since only 2 were red, so the one had to be green in inverted.
However, all of them I choose were wrong, making me assume the colors weren't inverted at all and then all hell broke loose.

After the hat tip it became easy though... that was pretty weird. Why could I solve it based on hats, but not shirts?
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Old 07/02/2010, 12:45 am   #13
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I was also very confused with this one. I payed attention to the shirts, since only 2 were red, so the one had to be green in inverted.
However, all of them I choose were wrong, making me assume the colors weren't inverted at all and then all hell broke loose.

After the hat tip it became easy though... that was pretty weird. Why could I solve it based on hats, but not shirts?
You must've made some mistake. I solved it only looking at shirts, hands and faces, not hats.
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Old 07/02/2010, 03:45 pm   #14
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The room one is stupid... the gnome one is easy. Colours are inverted so it comes down to a choice of 2 gnomes... that are facing the same way. You then check hand position.

To above poster Hats or Shirts make no difference, your both looking at the same feature in sense.
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Old 07/05/2010, 09:23 pm   #15
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For the gnome puzzle, I took a printscreen, pasted it into paint, inverted the negative image and flipped it horizontally. In other words, I cheated.
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That's not cheating, that's using the tools at your disposal.

Well done!
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Old 07/17/2010, 07:29 am   #17
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solution: "NINE"

how do you make spoiler tags?
I was totally baffled cuz I can type 2 numbers in the blanket..
you're right
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Old 07/17/2010, 07:59 pm   #18
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The room key puzzle threw me way off because the character said it was written in code, but it isn't written in code, the number was just hidden in the blank areas of the scribbles. Here I was trying to break a cipher using each individual scribble line. Even when I used all the hints, then I thought it was coded in roman numerals. Extremely frustrating when they do not explain the puzzle requirements effectively.
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Old 08/14/2010, 03:00 pm   #19
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I thought it was in binary, and that the parallel lines at the bottom were an = sign; until I read the second hint
I'm embarrassed to say I needed two hints for this one, too. My first thought was that the lines reminded me of a pair of 3x3 arrays with the middle part missing, so I thought I needed to push 5, the middle key on the keypad, twice. If one just handed me a piece of paper with those squiggles on it and asked me what number was encoded, I wouldn't have thought along the lines of how numbers are arranged on the keypad. On the other hand, I can't guarantee I'd've thought of the correct solution, either.

The sad part is that I've seen that style of "encoding" (so to speak) before, including here, in the banner below the logo on The Grey Labyrinth:

And that wasn't even the first place I'd seen it.
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