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Old 07/09/2010, 11:56 pm   #21
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A minor issue (I'm just starting the game so I haven't hit the Quorum or anything (: )

The 'football' game indicates the team should complete _a_ pass.

_A_ pass would be between two players.

The actual solution is passing between all players.

This could be worded slightly better. I used a hint in order to be sure I really had to complete a pass between all players, or if I needed to pass between the furthest apart, or, just what the heck it was I was to do so I could get a 'perfect' score. And of course using the hint dropped it from perfect so (: (The hint didn't really help, as it didn't address _MY_ question - what the heck do I _do_ to solve this completely (: )

But, wording this differently could solve some ambiguity I experienced.
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Old 07/10/2010, 08:36 am   #22
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A minor issue (I'm just starting the game so I haven't hit the Quorum or anything (: )

The 'football' game indicates the team should complete _a_ pass.

_A_ pass would be between two players.

The actual solution is passing between all players.

This could be worded slightly better. I used a hint in order to be sure I really had to complete a pass between all players, or if I needed to pass between the furthest apart, or, just what the heck it was I was to do so I could get a 'perfect' score. And of course using the hint dropped it from perfect so (: (The hint didn't really help, as it didn't address _MY_ question - what the heck do I _do_ to solve this completely (: )

But, wording this differently could solve some ambiguity I experienced.
Yeah, I thought the same thing. I realized pretty quickly that "one pass" was impossible, but it was a pretty poorly worded puzzle.
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Old 07/14/2010, 01:44 am   #23
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One possibility for clarifying all of the ambiguous and/or poorly worded puzzles in one fell swoop would be to provide a visual example of a mini-puzzle in action in the instruction phase of the puzzle. For example, on the instructions screen for the hydrolic lift puzzle, instead of just having static images next to the instructions on the screen, actually have some moving examples, perhaps highlighting each rule as its example plays. The football, snowmachine, and madness puzzles would have also benefited from this approach.

All in all, great game though. I'm looking forward to the next episode, and hoping the puzzles will be tightened!
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Old 07/14/2010, 10:37 am   #24
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For some of the puzzles, it might have helped if the submit button wasn't active until the player's solution was at least complete. For example, for Arm Wrestling Redux or Barrier Blot-out, you cannot submit unless you've actually selected something. That's good: it helps the player avoid mistakes without giving away the solution.

However, the Maw of Madness puzzle you can submit without filling all the spaces, which is apparently required by the rules. Technically, it is in the rules ("drag arrows to each space") but it's not very intuitive, and I missed it the first time. Enabling the submit button only after all spaces have been filled makes this rule a lot more visible to the player, without ruining the puzzle.

This rule was especially confusing because the very similar snowmobile/log puzzles do not require you to fill up all open spaces.
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Old 08/14/2010, 11:22 pm   #25
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Default Misleading Hint! Football Employees

I found what appears to be a mistake in a hint i used. I was doing the puzzle about the football players getting a job after school. each player needs to complete a pass without braking any glass. i got the idea right away but i had to use some hints. on the second hint it shows one pass that is incorrect consequently pissing me off because i made a few guesses using that hint.
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Old 08/15/2010, 07:36 am   #26
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I found what appears to be a mistake in a hint i used. I was doing the puzzle about the football players getting a job after school. each player needs to complete a pass without braking any glass. i got the idea right away but i had to use some hints. on the second hint it shows one pass that is incorrect consequently pissing me off because i made a few guesses using that hint.
I've been thinking about the hints for those football player puzzles, and I'm beginning to believe that they are indeed hints, not solutions. I think they're demonstrating what you need to do without showing you where the lines actually need to be. That would explain why none of them fit the solution.
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