Monkey Island 2 SE release date?

[Hassat Hunter]

The Morale of this Story:

GET MI2:SE ON THE TTG STORE.

That's all...

[MusicallyInspired]

I hereby put forth the declaration that, outside of not having regular internet access, those who claim to dislike Steam have no real motive or reason or have never used it. "I don't really own it" doesn't count as a valid reason because you do own it. Digitally. Just as much as you would if you bought MI2:SE from the TTG store.

Prove me wrong.

[Hassat Hunter]

I've used Steam (got a game for it), and got an internet connection (not always though, where Steam truly "Shined" by fucking up it's offline modus).

1) Offline modus... TTG games work if offline. Steam? WHO KNOWS?
2) $ = Euro. Yeah, really? Get lost!
3) As expensive as in the store, without box and stuff. See 2.
4) Sales are good, but I pretty much can still find most cheaper in the store, with box and all...
5) I rather support TTG than Valve, which would be allowed by buying it not on Steam, but here...

Need more?

EDIT: 6) The steam overlay process is extremely intensive for some reason. A cloud-game I got to try from Steam (Serious Sam II) ran horrible due to it's connection with Steam, even when getting fluid framerates.

[BoneFreak]

Originally Posted by Hassat Hunter

I've used Steam (got a game for it), and got an internet connection (not always though, where Steam truly "Shined" by fucking up it's offline modus).

1) Offline modus... TTG games work if offline. Steam? WHO KNOWS?

3) As expensive as in the store, without box and stuff. See 2.

5) I'd rather support TTG then Valve, which would be allowed by not buying it on Steam... but here...

Steam has an offline mode, doubt you've heard of it seeing you rage easily.

(from the U.S POV SoMI: SE is the same price on TTG and steam.

And both ways the bulk of your money goes to LucasArts (they made the game, all TTG and Valve did were to distribute it).

[PimPamPet]

Another day, another "Steam vs. Blah blah blah" crapshoot.

[Hassat Hunter]

It has it, wheter or not it WORKS, that's up to grabs. For me, it didn't when I lost my connection. Sure, it's just one game, but I rather keep it at that now.
I kind of like playing even without net-connection...
EDIT: Actually, the post you quoted *specifically* mentioned the offline system. So not sure why you reply with 'you probably didn't hear of it'. If I didn't, how can I mention it at all?

For us Euro's, the SE here would be cheaper. ANYTHING here would be cheaper.

And I rather have the small slice get to TTG than to Valve.

[MusicallyInspired]

Ok, I can accept the Euro = $ argument. That is messed up. And I already said that I excused those who don't have a regular internet connection, although I've had zero problems with Steam's offline mode.

Regarding cloud games....you can turn the cloud option off. But it doesn't function while you're playing a game anyway. A cloud game syncs with the Steam server AFTER you've quit the game. It does not impose itself during gameplay. And Valve doesn't get much of anything off third-party sales on Steam. We're talking really low rates here. But why wouldn't you want to support Valve? Valve is a great company. At least as good as TTG.

Got any more?

[Hassat Hunter]

Nope, that's about it.

And I hardly doubt it synchs only once, since I often got the typical Steam loading icon when it was auto-saving the game.
What else gives me a horrible 'lag' when playing an SP game with 70FPS+ constant?

[Tor]

My biggest gripe with Steam is their ability and willingness to take my purchased games away from me. If they mistakenly think I've taken part in payment fraud or similar, they'll lock me out of my account and all my games. This has happened to people in the past e.g. if their bank or credit card company reversed a transaction without them knowing about it.

It may not be extremely likely to happen to me, but the fact that they have the ability to do it (and have proven their willingness to do it) gets on my nerves somewhat. I tolerate Steam and use it when I must or when I get super awesome bargains, but I try to avoid them when I can.

Oh, and the €=$ thing is annoying of course, and the offline mode is not very useful because you have to be online in order to use it. You basically have to know in advance when you're going to be offline and enter offline mode before it happens; if your internet connection suddenly goes down you won't be able to play.

[Bubblechan]

I, too, want to buy Monkey Island 2 SE from Telltale. I only buy games I really want through the internet, so opening an account in Steam is not much point for me.

[Fealiks]

I still can't believe that some people care about hating steam so much that they refuse to buy such a great game...

[detard]

Before I start, my disclaimer: I own everything that TTG has produced and purchased via the TTG store, but am also Steam fanboy. Also, these are my personal opinions on the matter, nothing more. No intent to flame anyone in all honesty.

Guys, there are lots of things you can do when it comes to electronic distribution regardless of whether you're talking about using a DRM-enabled system like Steam, or downloading the installers directly from TTG, or from one of the other many many distributors out there (obviously some more known than others).

I see why some of you don't like Steam, and that's because when you buy a game you want to be able to hold a disc, manual, and box. Fine, go ahead and continue buying games in retail stores. I honestly hope that PC games never stop being sold by retailers or else the competition might not be able to hold the prices down.

But specifically for Steam, the reasons I like it so much started pretty simple: It was the only way to get Half Life 2 originally. I know that I was basically strong-armed into getting another program so that I can play a game I wanted. But really, it has served its purpose quite well for me.

I'm basically in the opinion that disc-less = best no matter what. I absolutely HATE having discs lying around on my desk. But what Steam does better than most online distributors is that I don't ever have to worry about deleting a game, or for games to get corrupted on my drive, or anything else really. If I need it again, I just tell Steam to install it again and it's done within either minutes or hours (depending on the size of the game).

As for buying a game on Steam and having it be revoked? Yeah, only what they deem to be "shady" will get you problems with accounts being locked. But those locks are just a security measure and it's something I hope that all distributors would do if things like that happened. Are all the customers necessarily in the wrong for it? No, but you really should watch your bank transactions a bit more closely than that if you don't know what's going on with your accounts. Your money really is YOUR responsibility. If my account got locked and I couldn't get to the games I own, I'd be pretty angry, but I would also find out how to resolve it ASAP. Somehow I doubt anyone has ever had their account permanently closed without there being a fraudulent transaction attempt.

Also, offline mode DOES work. They did have some glitches about that in the past, and believe me, the community blew up on them. This will not be a feature they will so easily get careless on in the future. I've used it on occasion, but rarely find the need.

I'd say the only people that should really have a gripe for Steam that I'd consider valid are foreign customers (I do agree with the Euros to $ problem, but that's actually a game publisher issue, not Valve... Valve does not set the prices), customers without a dedicated internet connection (or one that is too slow), and those people that simply must "hold" everything they buy. I feel the last one is a bit materialistic, but I suppose everyone has their quirks.

[Avistew]

Originally Posted by Fealiks

I still can't believe that some people care about hating steam so much that they refuse to buy such a great game...

It's not about refusing to buy it, but wait and see if it will come out with telltale like the first one did. Which makes sense if you don't want to have Steam for just one game, or if you want both SE in the same place, or if you play offline, etc, etc.

Seriously, even if there is no reason other than "I'd rather have it with telltale just because", it's still not "refusing to buy a great game". People are expecting it to be available here at some point, so they're waiting, that's all.

[Bubblechan]

Originally Posted by Avistew

It's not about refusing to buy it, but wait and see if it will come out with telltale like the first one did. Which makes sense if you don't want to have Steam for just one game, or if you want both SE in the same place, or if you play offline, etc, etc.

Seriously, even if there is no reason other than "I'd rather have it with telltale just because", it's still not "refusing to buy a great game". People are expecting it to be available here at some point, so they're waiting, that's all.

Totally agree.

[Fealiks]

Originally Posted by Avistew

It's not about refusing to buy it, but wait and see if it will come out with telltale like the first one did. Which makes sense if you don't want to have Steam for just one game, or if you want both SE in the same place, or if you play offline, etc, etc.

Seriously, even if there is no reason other than "I'd rather have it with telltale just because", it's still not "refusing to buy a great game". People are expecting it to be available here at some point, so they're waiting, that's all.

Okay, maybe "refusing" is a strong word, but you're still purposefully not buying it just because it's coming from your less-than-preferred vendor. That seems finicky to me. I don't see where the detriment is in downloading Steam and playing it through that. It's really good.

[Elvenmonk]

Originally Posted by Fealiks

Okay, maybe "refusing" is a strong word, but you're still purposefully not buying it just because it's coming from your less-than-preferred vendor. That seems finicky to me. I don't see where the detriment is in downloading Steam and playing it through that. It's really good.

Especially with the free Giftable copy of MI 1

[SHODANFreeman]

Or you could just go with Direct2Drive instead of Steam ... wait, I'm having déjà vu ...

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

Then perhaps you'd prefer Direct2Drive?

[Hassat Hunter]

Originally Posted by Fealiks

I still can't believe that some people care about hating steam so much that they refuse to buy such a great game...

I don't refuse to buy LR:SE. I just wait to buy it here at TTG.

If I need it again, I just tell Steam to install it again and it's done within either minutes or hours (depending on the size of the game).

It would easily take me 15(!!!) HOURS. Compare that to a 10 minute disc-installation (or just double-clicking the .exe I have in my folders which Steam doesn't allow).

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by Hassat Hunter

It would easily take me 15(!!!) HOURS. Compare that to a 10 minute disc-installation (or just double-clicking the .exe I have in my folders which Steam doesn't allow).

You can use the Steam backup feature, and make a disc for it.

[Hassat Hunter]

They have that?

Anyway, I apparently score 3 out 3 points on detard's list of people who are allowed to complain about Steam. Yay for me!