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Old 08/17/2010, 11:00 am   #21
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People here seem confused what outsourcing means. Most that tried to explain it here are plain WRONG... sorry folks.

But yeah, it would probably mean no ToMI2, or Day of the Tentacle serie(s) if this is indeed true.
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Telltale owns the rights to characters they created for the game. So if they wanted to make a pirate-themed adventure game in the style of Tales, using Morgan and other original characters, they could do that, they just wouldn't be able to call it Monkey Island.
No, not really. Morgan is still part of the Monkey Island universe. Telltale couldn't make a game about Morgan any more than LucasArts could make a game about Bruno the bigfoot. This also means that if LucasArts does make a new Monkey Island, they can't use Morgan or Winslow without licensing them from Telltale.

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Jerry Bowerman is filling in for him until they find a replacement.
ok ok Il step in for monkey island
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Old 08/17/2010, 02:27 pm   #24
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This also means that if LucasArts does make a new Monkey Island, they can't use Morgan or Winslow without licensing them from Telltale.
Depends on the terms between LA and TTG when developint ToMI.
Personally I think it's doubtfull TTG got the "rights" for these characters, so if intern LA made a new MI (woe befoe us) they could use Morgan, Winslow and everone else...
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Depends on the terms between LA and TTG when developint ToMI.
Exactly, which is what I was wondering.

I should read the credits for the episodes to see if there is a hint of characters' property there.
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They appointed a new president back in June - Paul Meegan.
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Ah, I had missed that news, and Wikipedia is out of date.
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Old 08/17/2010, 03:53 pm   #28
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Selling or lending a licence - as was done with Monkey Island - is not the same as "outsourcing"! In fact, having TTG do Monkey Island was rather easy money for LA in a relatively short period of time, while outsourcing (actually paying people to do the work for your firm) must have been quite the budget strain.

I think LucasArts has made a very positive experience with "Tales". Hence, I'd consider the chances for a Telltale ToMI 2 exceptionally high. 2012, maybe?
You have a point. It's a fine line, but still a distinct difference.

Edit: I should also mention that the article notes at least one project avoided the axe. The project is not named, and we don't know why it survived.

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From the wording it sounds like an inhouse project (another SE?) though... so no relevance to ToMI.
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Damn you Lucasarts! Aren't the Lego games pretty successful too?

I'm just going to keep on hoping that there'll be a teaser for more ToMI at the end of Devil's Playhouse like there was for Devil's Playhouse at the end of ToMI. Okay, that might be a completely vain hope, but still.
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From the wording it sounds like an inhouse project (another SE?) though... so no relevance to ToMI.
I'd rather ToMI season 2 than a new game of MI from LA as Telltale have done great work to resurrect MI. Personally I like ToMI is better than other LA made MI games, especially the story and charcters designs.
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Old 08/17/2010, 05:33 pm   #32
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No, not really. Morgan is still part of the Monkey Island universe. Telltale couldn't make a game about Morgan any more than LucasArts could make a game about Bruno the bigfoot. This also means that if LucasArts does make a new Monkey Island, they can't use Morgan or Winslow without licensing them from Telltale.
Huh? You're going to have to explain what you mean by this, because you seem to be contradicting yourself. If Morgan were part of the MI IP, then LA *would* be able to use her in a game because they own the IP. If Morgan is not part of the MI IP, then they would indeed have to license the character from Telltale. You can't have it both ways.

I would also have thought that LA could make a game about Bruno if they wanted, assuming that the character was created during the development of Hit the Road at LA, and was not part of the property they licensed from Steve Purcell.

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so were agreed we want a LA bruno game
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so were agreed we want a LA bruno game
I thought that was a given.
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Old 08/17/2010, 08:12 pm   #35
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As much I'd like a season 2 for TOMI, I'm just glad they managed to complete the first season and give us another Monkey Island game. With all the lack of Commercial adventure games the last few years I really enjoyed Tales. If Lucasarts loses interest in adventure games again, that sucks, but at least we got one more tale with Guybrush. But hope I'm wrong....
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Huh? You're going to have to explain what you mean by this, because you seem to be contradicting yourself. If Morgan were part of the MI IP, then LA *would* be able to use her in a game because they own the IP. If Morgan is not part of the MI IP, then they would indeed have to license the character from Telltale. You can't have it both ways.

I would also have thought that LA could make a game about Bruno if they wanted, assuming that the character was created during the development of Hit the Road at LA, and was not part of the property they licensed from Steve Purcell.
What I've been led to believe is that LucasArts owns the IP, Telltale owns the character, but the character is bound to the IP, so that Telltale can't use the character without having the IP from LucasArts and LucasArts can't use the character without permission from Telltale. Otherwise Morgan would basically be a character from her own IP and Tales would be one enormous crossover, in which case you could say that Sybil, the Stinkies, Sal, Skunkape, Papierwaite, the Soda Poppers, and every other character that didn't appear in Sam & Max prior to the Telltale games aren't part of the Sam & Max IP.

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Why is Morgan bound to MI? Why can't Telltale make a game about her previous exploits before meeting Guybrush?
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Because Morgan originated in a Monkey Island game. Any other game about her would still take place in the Monkey Island universe. Not to mention that Guybrush has been her idol for years and making a game about her past without any reference to him would be pretty much impossible.
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Is it still possible that LA could completly sell the MI license to Telltale?
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Honestly, I doubt Lucasarts would even think of getting rid of the one (successful) IP that's broken them away from their recent company image of "just Star Wars and Indy". So I really doubt Lucasarts would ever "sell" Monkey Island, or let go of it completely.

I think we all need to take some advice from a certain other sci-fi and not panic about this. Who needs a towel?
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