Top 10 Best Moments in the Monkey Island Series!

[Debbie82]

So I created a list of the Top 10 Best Moments in the Monkey Island series and submitted them to GameFAQs a few days ago. Sure, it was back-breaking work, but all my work paid off. Here it is:

Top 10 Best Moments in the Monkey Island Series

Oh, and I forgot that I didn't mention the stump joke of TSoMI or Guybrush and Murray haunting Mort the Gravedigger in CoMI, but oh well. No harm done, right?

[Mermaid]

Originally Posted by Debbie82

So I created a list of the Top 10 Best Moments in the Monkey Island series and submitted them to GameFAQs a few days ago. Sure, it was back-breaking work, but all my work paid off. Here it is:

Top 10 Best Moments in the Monkey Island Series

Oh, and I forgot that I didn't mention the stump joke of TSoMI or Guybrush and Murray haunting Mort the Gravedigger in CoMI, but oh well. No harm done, right?

This thread sounds so familiar...hasn't someone else had that idea before?

[Debbie82]

Well, someone did post the same list, but it was the "Top 15 Best Moments in Tales of Monkey Island", just not the entire Monkey Island series itself, and it's in two video clips of YouTube.

[doodo!]

Strange enough I agree with alot of these but there has to be more. Such a great franchise.

[Chyron8472]

I disagree with #8 and #6 on that list.

[techie775]

Why is #6 on the list? That was the worst idea ever. (beside Monkey Kombat)

[doodo!]

I'd say because it's so widely discussed and controversial. Not everything on that list did I absolutely adore but I figured he chose the strongest and most engaging segments of the franchise.

Maybe it's not the most popular thing on the list but I'd say it's one of the most controversial things on that list and one of the most widely discussed parts of the franchise.

In some ways that makes it one of the "top" or best, or strongest moments in the franchise. Even if we have our own opinions, I enjoy talking to you guys about the series.

[Debbie82]

Originally Posted by doodo!

I'd say because it's so widely discussed and controversial. Not everything on that list did I absolutely adore but I figured he chose the strongest and most engaging segments of the franchise.

Maybe it's not the most popular thing on the list but I'd say it's one of the most controversial things on that list and one of the most widely discussed parts of the franchise.

In some ways that makes it one of the "top" or best, or strongest moments in the franchise. Even if we have our own opinions, I enjoy talking to you guys about the series.

I'm a "she", you know. And I did mention that #6 is criticized as a retcon of the Horatio Torquemada Marley storyline compared to Curse.

[Chyron8472]

Originally Posted by Debbie82

I'm a "she", you know. And I did mention that #6 is criticized as a retcon of the Horatio Torquemada Marley storyline compared to Curse.

It is a retcon, and you mean compared to Secret, Revenge and Curse.

from wikipedia.org/wiki/retcon
Retroactive continuity (often shortened to retcon) refers to the deliberate alteration of previously established facts in a work of serial fiction.

It's also a bad retcon that doesn't make sense. Toothrot was called Toothrot before he even arrived on the island, and H.T. Marley was killed when LeChuck went looking for Big Whoop, which was after he fell in love with Elaine Marley (and she wasn't old enough for it to have been a 20-year-long obsession at that point.)

According to LeChuck in Curse, Big Whoop is really a portal leading to Hell. When LeChuck passed through it, he died.

According to Estevan in the SCUMM Bar in Secret, LeChuck was alive when he fell in love with Elaine, but "she told him to drop dead, so he did" which puts LeChuck's death by Big Whoop after the beginnings of his obsession with Elaine.

According to LeChuck in Curse, he killed Rum Rogers after becoming a ghost. Though he doesn't explicitly give the time taken between, it is reasonable to assume he didn't take long before or afterward to kill H.T. Marley. Also, according to Rum Rogers Jr. in Revenge, when Guybrush beat him at the drinking game, he had "only inherited [Rum Rogers Sr.'s] house two months ago." This means Rum Rogers Sr. was declared dead not too long before those 2 months.

According to the Captain's Log aboard the Sea Monkey in Secret, the captain refers to his first mate as "Toothrot" throughout the entire voyage to Monkey Island, however in Escape, Toothrot claims to have taken on the name Herman Toothrot after being hit in the head by various objects while already on Monkey Island at the time that they happened.

And anyway, this list is supposed to be the "Top 10 best moments of MI," not the Top 10 most controversial/discussed. For Herman to be either a big fat liar or a lunatic is not the sixth best moment of Monkey Island.

[Otis]

WTF! #3 should be like the moment #57. How is that comparable to all those other turning points?

[Debbie82]

Originally Posted by Chyron8472

It is a retcon, and you mean compared to Secret, Revenge and Curse.
It's also a bad retcon that doesn't make sense. Toothrot was called Toothrot before he even arrived on the island, and H.T. Marley was killed when LeChuck went looking for Big Whoop, which was after he fell in love with Elaine Marley (and she wasn't old enough for it to have been a 20-year-long obsession at that point.)

According to LeChuck in Curse, Big Whoop is really a portal leading to Hell. When LeChuck passed through it, he died.

According to Estevan in the SCUMM Bar in Secret, LeChuck was alive when he fell in love with Elaine, but "she told him to drop dead, so he did" which puts LeChuck's death by Big Whoop after the beginnings of his obsession with Elaine.

According to LeChuck in Curse, he killed Rum Rogers after becoming a ghost. Though he doesn't explicitly give the time taken between, it is reasonable to assume he didn't take long before or afterward to kill H.T. Marley. Also, according to Rum Rogers Jr. in Revenge, when Guybrush beat him at the drinking game, he had "only inherited [Rum Rogers Sr.'s] house two months ago." This means Rum Rogers Sr. was declared dead not too long before those 2 months.

According to the Captain's Log aboard the Sea Monkey in Secret, the captain refers to his first mate as "Toothrot" throughout the entire voyage to Monkey Island, however in Escape, Toothrot claims to have taken on the name Herman Toothrot after being hit in the head by various objects while already on Monkey Island at the time that they happened.

And anyway, this list is supposed to be the "Top 10 best moments of MI," not the Top 10 most controversial/discussed. For Herman to be either a big fat liar or a lunatic is not the sixth best moment of Monkey Island.

I know. That's why I put "or so [Toothrot] claims", because what Toothrot says can't be true when he "regains" his memory. Also, according to Lemonhead in Curse, "We underwent a paradigm shift in our belief system several years ago... Completely cut back on our fatty missionary intake and went vegetarian altogether." That might have been a few years after Guybrush met the cannibals, although it says that the cannibals went vegetarian a few months after Guybrush met them. I even put in "Many years ago, before the events of Secret" in #9, I think, instead of "a few years ago". And I think may have made a mistake in placing Herman Toothrot as #6. I should have put "Guybrush beating LeChuck in Monkey Kombat" as #6, but I just couldn't find a best moment in Escape other than stupid Herman Toothrot or Monkey Kombat. If only there was a way to change the Top 10 list in GameFAQs... but... I'm sorry and I hope you can forgive me.

[doodo!]

I don't feel like arguing this but best is sort of subjective here, if we're going to have a real standard, something based on reality, other than opinion then I think the word best can be used to describe the top moments of the franchise, which I think it's fair to say the top moments are the most discussed/ controversial moments, because everyone's different and it's entirely subjective what best could be given opinions, so you run in circles like a monkey...at a forum you're here to discuss and converse anyways and guess what we all have our own opinion. Life is a social experiment...



There's different ways to see things though...

[Debbie82]

Originally Posted by doodo!

I don't feel like arguing this but best is sort of subjective here, if we're going to have a real standard, something based on reality, other than opinion then I think the word best can be used to describe the top moments of the franchise, which I think it's fair to say the top moments are the most discussed/ controversial moments, because everyone's different and it's entirely subjective what best could be given opinions, so you run in circles like a monkey...at a forum you're here to discuss and converse anyways and guess what we all have our own opinion. Life is a social experiment...



There's different ways to see things though...

You're right. Even though the alternate Herman Toothrot storyline in Escape is a big inconsistency or incompatibility in #6, it is still considered as a "best" moment, right? Thanks.

Also, according to this link, "While these changes alter the established history of the series significantly all of Herman's in-game activities (helping Guybrush escape from Monkey Island and teaching philosophy on Dinky) are mentioned and still considered canon in the fourth game." That's fair, right?

[doodo!]

I got to take a shit!!! WHEEE!

[RingmasterJ5]

Originally Posted by doodo!

I got to take a shit!!! WHEEE!

Uhh... what?

[Hayden]

Originally Posted by RingmasterJ5

Uhh... what?

He confuses us all at times. His posts range from deep and quite intelligent to... well, this sort of thing.