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Ribs · 08/30/2010, 06:25 pm

WARNING: DO NOT BROWSE THREAD UNTIL YOU HAVE FINISHED EPISODE FIVE OF THE DEVIL'S PLAYHOUSE. EXTREME SPOILERS WITHIN
Note: Listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIuotFZnBtk whilst reading for maximum effect.
This is a log of all the characters we lost in The City that Dares Not Sleep:

1. Sal - Killed by radiation poisoning in Max's arm control room. Died in Max's Cerebral Cortex.

2. Sam Jr. - Left inside Max to die.

3. Grandpa Stinky's Body - Switched Bodies with one of Stinky's minions and was aboard Skun'ka'pe's ship when it was destroyed.

4. Sammun-Mak - Was piloting Skun'ka'pe's ship when it was destroyed.

5. Girl Stinky - Was aboard Skun'ka'pe's ship when it was destroyed.

6. Skun'ka'pe - Was aboard his ship when it was destroyed.

7. The Narrarator (Max's Superego) - Was a part of Max, and was destroyed when he was.

8. Max - In an effort to save the city, teleported to Skun'ka'pe's ship and blew up inside it, killing all inside and himself.

[cheesyline]Let these who died not have died in vane![/cheesyline]

Melchon · 08/30/2010, 07:43 pm

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Originally Posted by StLouisRibs

WARNING: DO NOT BROWSE THREAD UNTIL YOU HAVE FINISHED EPISODE FIVE OF THE DEVIL'S PLAYHOUSE. EXTREME SPOILERS WITHIN
Note: Listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIuotFZnBtk whilst reading for maximum effect.
This is a log of all the characters we lost in The City that Dares Not Sleep:

1. Sal - Killed by radiation poisoning in Max's arm control room. Died in Max's Cerebral Cortex.

2. Sam Jr. - Left inside Max to die.

3. Grandpa Stinky's Body - Switched Bodies with one of Stinky's minions and was aboard Skun'ka'pe's ship when it was destroyed.

4. Sammun-Mak - Was piloting Skun'ka'pe's ship when it was destroyed.

5. Girl Stinky - Was aboard Skun'ka'pe's ship when it was destroyed.

6. Skun'ka'pe - Was aboard his ship when it was destroyed.

7. The Narrarator (Max's Superego) - Was a part of Max, and was destroyed when he was.

8. Max - In an effort to save the city, teleported to Skun'ka'pe's ship and blew up inside it, killing all inside and himself.

[cheesyline]Let these who died not have died in vane![/cheesyline]

Well,

I wouldn't be so sure about 3, there was no indicator if he was still onboard the ship. One could argue that 7 and 8 are not dead either, because at the end you see another max from the past join sam, possibly containing another superego

. So they are both alive (in some sort of paradox way).

Ribs · 08/30/2010, 07:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Melchon

Well,

I wouldn't be so sure about 3, there was no indicator if he was still onboard the ship. One could argue that 7 and 8 are not dead either, because at the end you see another max from the past join sam, possibly containing another superego

. So they are both alive (in some sort of paradox way).

It's not Max from the past, but a Max from an alternate dimension where Sam gets juniorfied.

Swarn3r · 08/30/2010, 07:57 pm

Also:
Sam Jr. makes it out just fine if you remember to pick him up after you get Sal. What cruel person would leave poor, adorable Sam Jr. to die? :-(

English Language · 08/30/2010, 07:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Swarn3r

Also:
Sam Jr. makes it out just fine if you remember to pick him up after you get Sal. What cruel person would leave poor, adorable Sam Jr. to die? :-(

>_>;;;

Avel · 08/30/2010, 07:57 pm

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Originally Posted by StLouisRibs

It's not Max from the past, but a Max from an alternate dimension where Sam gets juniorfied.

Um...I'm pretty sure that was past Max from 204. Though that may have resulted in a split time line, but the more likely conclusion is that it happened sometime in the distant past or future.

Anybody depressed in spite of the ending emotional yo-yo.

English Language · 08/30/2010, 08:00 pm

Given Sam is alive and doesn't remember such a thing happening, we can assume it's not distant past.

It also can't be future since if it was, that Max is cycling infinitely through a time loop(he goes to past, hangs out with Sam, has to blow him up, goes bakc in time again, repeat ad infinitum).

My best guess is split timeline.

English Language · 08/30/2010, 08:01 pm

And I'll admit, I did start tearing up at the end.

I actually liked Sal, and I grew attached to Max and his violent and destructive, yet childlike shenanigans

HeroicJay · 08/30/2010, 08:01 pm

Yeah, I saved Sam Jr. too. Ending? Contrived. But funny.

And Girl Stinky's apparent backstory explains so little, and kinda creates plot holes for What's New, Beelzebub... or was Flint Paper just mistaken? Hm, confused, though Sal did kinda begin to admit that he'd been doing whatever he'd been doing with her for a couple of DECADES.

xaviorbat · 08/30/2010, 08:06 pm

Honestly I didn't care for the ending, seemed kinda contrived for how much buildup was made. Great game though, just ending seemed a tad off.

Falanca · 08/30/2010, 08:14 pm

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Originally Posted by xaviorbat

Honestly I didn't care for the ending, seemed kinda contrived for how much buildup was made. Great game though, just ending seemed a tad off.

You ARE a tad off.

It was strong. It wasn't done to be funny. A paradox or not, writers made a Max kill himself, to show people no matter how psychopathic he talks, in the end he can jump off to save many people.

Sure, the split time gag at the VERY end is what you may consider to be rushy, but that's Sam and Max for you. Noone expects a story that makes total sense, actually what people do expect is the complete opposite. Well, noone expected that kind of an ending too, but still. They tried something new. And I believe, with that season, they did their best.

HeroicJay · 08/30/2010, 08:18 pm

Suit yourself.

BTW, I noticed that "Grandma Moleman" was mentioned in the voice credits. I don't believe I ever ran across that character.

Ribs · 08/30/2010, 08:21 pm

I'm in the consensus that 'Max X', as I call him, got lonely without Sam and found the time elevator and used it to traverse to a dimension with Sam still alive without Max.

Chuck · 08/30/2010, 08:22 pm

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Originally Posted by StLouisRibs

It's not Max from the past, but a Max from an alternate dimension where Sam gets juniorfied.

That's not correct. He came in via the time traveling elevator. It's the Max from episode 102, who stole the time machine from "present" Sam & Max in episode 204. He and Sam from 102 have been having their own adventures during the last 6 episodes.

Ribs · 08/30/2010, 08:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Chuck

That's not correct. He came in via the time traveling elevator. It's the Max from episode 102, who stole the time machine from "present" Sam & Max in episode 204. He and Sam from 102 have been having their own adventures during the last 6 episodes.

Oh my god, you are amazing for clearing this up and that is hilarious.

Also, DO I SMELL SPIN OFF?

The Big z · 08/30/2010, 08:44 pm

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Originally Posted by HeroicJay

Suit yourself.

BTW, I noticed that "Grandma Moleman" was mentioned in the voice credits. I don't believe I ever ran across that character.

I also saw a credit for Soda Popper which I don't remember seeing.

blucentio · 08/30/2010, 08:47 pm

Grandma Moleman was in early parts of 302 I believe, before the tomb. She is watching the elves outside the window.

HeroicJay · 08/30/2010, 08:49 pm

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Originally Posted by The Big z

I also saw a credit for Soda Popper which I don't remember seeing.

It was for Peepers, and I caught that one: When Sam asks how Momma Bosco is keeping the Max spores away, she reveals she's playing a high-frequency "I can hear yoooooou!" from Peepers. Sam couldn't hear it, but remarked that he was wondering why he was feeling a homicidal rage building up.

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Originally Posted by blucentio

Grandma Moleman was in early parts of 302 I believe, before the tomb. She is watching the elves outside the window.

Wrong character, wrong episode. I was referring to a voice credit in THIS EPISODE, and the character in question was Nefertiti/Bubbles. She was credited as such in "They Stole Max's Brain".

*divisionten* · 08/30/2010, 08:50 pm

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Originally Posted by The Big z

I also saw a credit for Soda Popper which I don't remember seeing.

If you ask Momma Bosco how she's been keeping the Max spores at bay, she plays a clip of them for you.

Juxt · 08/30/2010, 09:01 pm

I didn't get Jr out, but to be fair I wasn't expecting Max to blow up. Although I did technically forget about him. Sorry little guy.

And another thing, from the get-go I didn't trust Sal because he was way too nice to be an entirely honest character. I misjudged him, and I was wrong. Godspeed, gentle cockroach. Godspeed.

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08/30/2010, 07:57 pm	#4
Swarn3r Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3	Also: Sam Jr. makes it out just fine if you remember to pick him up after you get Sal. What cruel person would leave poor, adorable Sam Jr. to die? :-(

08/30/2010, 08:00 pm	#7
English Language Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 79	Given Sam is alive and doesn't remember such a thing happening, we can assume it's not distant past. It also can't be future since if it was, that Max is cycling infinitely through a time loop(he goes to past, hangs out with Sam, has to blow him up, goes bakc in time again, repeat ad infinitum). My best guess is split timeline.

08/30/2010, 08:01 pm	#8
English Language Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 79	And I'll admit, I did start tearing up at the end. I actually liked Sal, and I grew attached to Max and his violent and destructive, yet childlike shenanigans

08/30/2010, 08:01 pm	#9
HeroicJay Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 57	Yeah, I saved Sam Jr. too. Ending? Contrived. But funny. And Girl Stinky's apparent backstory explains so little, and kinda creates plot holes for What's New, Beelzebub... or was Flint Paper just mistaken? Hm, confused, though Sal did kinda begin to admit that he'd been doing whatever he'd been doing with her for a couple of DECADES.

08/30/2010, 08:06 pm	#10
xaviorbat Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11	Honestly I didn't care for the ending, seemed kinda contrived for how much buildup was made. Great game though, just ending seemed a tad off.

08/30/2010, 08:18 pm	#12
HeroicJay Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 57	Suit yourself. BTW, I noticed that "Grandma Moleman" was mentioned in the voice credits. I don't believe I ever ran across that character.

08/30/2010, 08:47 pm	#17
blucentio Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8	Grandma Moleman was in early parts of 302 I believe, before the tomb. She is watching the elves outside the window.

08/30/2010, 09:01 pm	#20
Juxt Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4	I didn't get Jr out, but to be fair I wasn't expecting Max to blow up. Although I did technically forget about him. Sorry little guy. And another thing, from the get-go I didn't trust Sal because he was way too nice to be an entirely honest character. I misjudged him, and I was wrong. Godspeed, gentle cockroach. Godspeed.