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Frankov · 12/14/2010, 06:48 am

I just rewatched the trailer, and I noticed that Marty seems to be "surprised" when the DeLorean starts fluxing... As if it was doing something unexpected.

I guess it can be attributed to the fact that no matter how many times you time-travel, you never really get used to having a wormhole open in your face while driving insanely fast.

But anyone think something is "different" about THAT DeLorean, to have Marty make a "What the hell" look on his face ?

Maybe the radio was playing and when the Delorean starts fluxing, the radio waves of both time periods kinda mix ? Ok, ok, this one is not valid.

Carlos85G · 12/14/2010, 06:56 am

Yes, it might be just the uneasy feeling of reliving all the moments that passed 6 months ago; and then he mans up for the next adventure, for Doc's sake, just as Doc did for Marty at the Clock Tower. I think the DeLorean has something to do with that feeling just by being there

alorion · 12/14/2010, 07:16 am

Yeah, a friend pointed it out to me, and I think its more like 'Uh oh, please don't let me crash into a tree that was here 55 years ago...' And then he's gone....

MantaScorp · 12/14/2010, 08:35 am

Remember, too, that Marty never ever time-traveled under non-stressful conditions. Let's recap the times where he drove in the DeLorean up to 88 miles per hour:

#1: Being chased by Libyans wielding a rocket launcher.
#2: Racing against the clock (literally) to hit the wire with the connecting hook at precisely 10:04pm.
#3: Was just told that his future kids were screwed up. Oh, yeah, the car is flying, too.
#4: Dealing with a passed-out girlfriend and impressed about his bitchin' Hilldale address
#5: Upset that Doc seems unfazed about leaving Jennifer in a hellish parallel world
#6: Speeding toward a movie screen...and slightly peeved about his inability to think fourth-dimensionally
#7: Rocketing toward the sheer cliff, being pushed by a locomotive, and confused how a toy hoverboard can support the weight of two grown adults.

So you see, Marty has never had a moment to enjoy driving down a street in the DeLorean, let alone examining it's bits and pieces.

Frankov · 12/14/2010, 10:03 am

I guess he's more squinting from the flashes than looking at the phenomenon with a confused look...

In any case, I'm pretty sure that even if Doc has a seemingly calm look on his face when breaking the time barrier, inside he's probably thinking "I sure hope this is still normal..."

I hope his future glasses have a Peril-Sensitive setting.

Shadowknight1 · 12/14/2010, 10:10 am

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Originally Posted by Frankov

I guess he's more squinting from the flashes than looking at the phenomenon with a confused look...

In any case, I'm pretty sure that even if Doc has a seemingly calm look on his face when breaking the time barrier, inside he's probably thinking "I sure hope this is still normal..."

I hope his future glasses have a Peril-Sensitive setting.

I think Marty's look before the serious "alright let's do this" face is him reacting to something other than the DeLorean. We don't know how he's receiving these instructions yet, so it could be that.

Also, I think that the reason Doc bought those glasses was to hide the fact that every time they time travel, his eyes are about as big as a frisbee pie plate.

Farlander · 12/14/2010, 03:30 pm

I rewatched the trailer. Though it was after the shot where we were shown the Flux Capacitor, Marty's 'surprised' (or however you call it, 'serious' or 'let's do it' face) face is in fact watching not at the capacitor, but at the time date panel.

Ash FoxX · 12/14/2010, 03:38 pm

Don't forget, last time he was in a DeLorean time machine he almost got pwned by an oncoming train.

Origami · 12/14/2010, 03:51 pm

In all honesty.....I don't see Marty looking at the Flux Capacitor.

Frankov · 12/14/2010, 04:04 pm

The part I was referring to is not when he's looking at the date panel, and I didn't talk about the flux capacitor, it's when the DeLorean starts breaking the time barrier.

To make it easier, I meant this particular facial expression :

I think it's because of the speed at which he squints... He seems to have a dubious expression. At least I thought so.

Farlander · 12/14/2010, 04:10 pm

Oh, you were talking about that.

I personally would squint a bit when my car would start sparkling like that (especially if I'm not used to it anymore. Didn't Marty squint in BttF1 during his first time travel?). I mean, it's kind of a natural reaction of the human organism to that kind of stuff.

Origami · 12/14/2010, 04:16 pm

Owh yeah...that part. Well I am pretty sure he's squinting because of the sparks.
Marty did the same in BttF1 and BttF3.

Shadowknight1 · 12/14/2010, 04:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Origami

Owh yeah...that part. Well I am pretty sure he's squinting because of the sparks.
Marty did the same in BttF1 and BttF3.

That's what I thought too, same as in BTTF3, that's why I really liked that they put that expression in.

Secret Fawful · 12/14/2010, 04:26 pm

I can tell you why he's making that face. It's called being dramatic.

Frankov · 12/14/2010, 04:26 pm

I was just pointing out that the squinting animation/speed they used looks a lot like a "what the hell" expression.

And it probably is, since it looks a lot like the facial animation when he's turning around in Doc's lab, after hearing the DeLorean appear.

On another note : I think it's seriously time this game is released... Some of the posts I've been reading here have become increasingly aggressive lately.

Or I might just not be as hardcore a fan as I previously thought

Origami · 12/14/2010, 04:41 pm

I disagree.
The shocked animation and the squinting look vastly different to me.

And the 'squinting' eyes part is my fav part of the trailer. I get goosebumps at that part.
Nohomo. >.>

WoolCorp · 12/14/2010, 05:21 pm

Definitely just a homage to when he squints during the movies

Frankov · 12/14/2010, 05:30 pm

I want to stress that I am not complaining about the way it looks, or nitpicking the animation. There's no real confusion about his expression, it's just something I thought other people might have noticed.

TellTale has done a wonderful job so far and since my interest is at it's zenith, I just wanted to waste some time talking about it here (and what better place?).

Origami · 12/14/2010, 05:36 pm

^
No problem! Nice to hear that.

Also I agree on us both thinking fourth dimensionally lol.

And what you said was correct on how I view it.
To me the Marty we follow is the Alpha-Marty. The Marty that changes things. (Same applies to Doc)
Ofcourse the past version of person can still change something, but this because it is directly or indirectly influenced by the Alpha version.
(Like how 1955 Doc plans to wear a Bullet-Proof Vest in 1985)

The problem I have with your way of viewing is to accept everything already is pre-determined.
Meaning the Doc was supposed to get hit by lightning and return to 1885 thus the DeLorean is already there.

Frankov · 12/14/2010, 06:58 pm

Well, so far let me say that you seem very knowledgeable about the physics of BTTF, and you're probably the one who could enlighten me.

First off, I'm going to disassociate Primer from Back To The Future (I realized I wasn't really following the BTTF rules of time travel) and to make sure, tell me if I'm applying the BTTF rules correctly :

Let's say Doc didn't send Einstein 1 min in the future for his first test and tried the following :

Although this is a paradox all by itself, but let's entertain the notion... Let's say Doc had a plan... Some sort of 'calculated' paradox.

He goes to a remote corner of the parking of TwinPine Mall, and concentrates :

"I'm going to send the DeLorean back to this exact moment in precisely one minute. Noone is around, Marty is at home, Einstein is sleeping in the U-Haul and those shifty Libyans are probably playing pinball..."

He sets the timer in the Delorean to 01:20:00 for now, closes the door and prepares a few feet away with his remote-control in hand.

The time is now : 01:19:30

He stares in the horizon intensely, and waits for the timer to reach 1:20.

What happens :

If I'm applying the rules correctly, and tell me if I'm correct, is that nothing happens. Because he has to send the car back, meaning the FIRST iteration of Doc doesn't see it.

But what if nothing happens, and he thinks "Alright... This is expected... I'm most obviously my first iteration... What the hell, I'll just send a gift to my second iteration."

He activates the remote-control and the DeLorean disappears into nothingness... Leaving this Doc with only fire trails to show for his missing family fortune.

However, could a second iteration of Doc Brown receive it ? If he does, could he decide to keep the original and have 2... What's the worst that could happen, one of them disappears ? It's just an inanimate object.

As we've seen in this trailer, it's possible to time travel without anyone inside the DeLorean... But does that mean we can only send an empty DeLorean in the future, and not in the past ?

Looking forward to your thoughts on this !

12/14/2010, 03:51 pm	#9
Origami Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,515	In all honesty.....I don't see Marty looking at the Flux Capacitor. __________________ "Usual? You lead a pretty unusual life, Doc." - Marty McFly Golden Age Whodunnit/Locked Room Murder Mystery fanatic.

12/14/2010, 04:16 pm	#12
Origami Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,515	Owh yeah...that part. Well I am pretty sure he's squinting because of the sparks. Marty did the same in BttF1 and BttF3. __________________ "Usual? You lead a pretty unusual life, Doc." - Marty McFly Golden Age Whodunnit/Locked Room Murder Mystery fanatic.

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12/14/2010, 04:41 pm	#16
Origami Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,515	I disagree. The shocked animation and the squinting look vastly different to me. And the 'squinting' eyes part is my fav part of the trailer. I get goosebumps at that part. Nohomo. >.> __________________ "Usual? You lead a pretty unusual life, Doc." - Marty McFly Golden Age Whodunnit/Locked Room Murder Mystery fanatic.

12/14/2010, 05:36 pm	#19
Origami Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,515	^ No problem! Nice to hear that. Also I agree on us both thinking fourth dimensionally lol. And what you said was correct on how I view it. To me the Marty we follow is the Alpha-Marty. The Marty that changes things. (Same applies to Doc) Ofcourse the past version of person can still change something, but this because it is directly or indirectly influenced by the Alpha version. (Like how 1955 Doc plans to wear a Bullet-Proof Vest in 1985) The problem I have with your way of viewing is to accept everything already is pre-determined. Meaning the Doc was supposed to get hit by lightning and return to 1885 thus the DeLorean is already there. __________________ "Usual? You lead a pretty unusual life, Doc." - Marty McFly Golden Age Whodunnit/Locked Room Murder Mystery fanatic. Last edited by Origami; 12/14/2010 at 06:59 pm.

12/14/2010, 06:48 am	#1
Frankov Inquisitive Artist Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: QC, Canada Posts: 46	But you've done this before... Right ? I just rewatched the trailer, and I noticed that Marty seems to be "surprised" when the DeLorean starts fluxing... As if it was doing something unexpected. I guess it can be attributed to the fact that no matter how many times you time-travel, you never really get used to having a wormhole open in your face while driving insanely fast. But anyone think something is "different" about THAT DeLorean, to have Marty make a "What the hell" look on his face ? Maybe the radio was playing and when the Delorean starts fluxing, the radio waves of both time periods kinda mix ? Ok, ok, this one is not valid.

12/14/2010, 06:56 am	#2
Carlos85G Mexi-naco Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 266	Yes, it might be just the uneasy feeling of reliving all the moments that passed 6 months ago; and then he mans up for the next adventure, for Doc's sake, just as Doc did for Marty at the Clock Tower. I think the DeLorean has something to do with that feeling just by being there __________________ Carlos85G Vehicle Modeler Back To The Future: Hill Valley modification for Grand Theft Auto: Vice City on PC. http://www.bttfhillvalley.com Last edited by Carlos85G; 12/14/2010 at 07:09 am.

12/14/2010, 07:16 am	#3
alorion Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: UK Posts: 57	Yeah, a friend pointed it out to me, and I think its more like 'Uh oh, please don't let me crash into a tree that was here 55 years ago...' And then he's gone....

12/14/2010, 08:35 am	#4
MantaScorp Slacker Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hill Valley, CA Posts: 55	Remember, too, that Marty never ever time-traveled under non-stressful conditions. Let's recap the times where he drove in the DeLorean up to 88 miles per hour: #1: Being chased by Libyans wielding a rocket launcher. #2: Racing against the clock (literally) to hit the wire with the connecting hook at precisely 10:04pm. #3: Was just told that his future kids were screwed up. Oh, yeah, the car is flying, too. #4: Dealing with a passed-out girlfriend and impressed about his bitchin' Hilldale address #5: Upset that Doc seems unfazed about leaving Jennifer in a hellish parallel world #6: Speeding toward a movie screen...and slightly peeved about his inability to think fourth-dimensionally #7: Rocketing toward the sheer cliff, being pushed by a locomotive, and confused how a toy hoverboard can support the weight of two grown adults. So you see, Marty has never had a moment to enjoy driving down a street in the DeLorean, let alone examining it's bits and pieces.

12/14/2010, 10:03 am	#5
Frankov Inquisitive Artist Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: QC, Canada Posts: 46	I guess he's more squinting from the flashes than looking at the phenomenon with a confused look... In any case, I'm pretty sure that even if Doc has a seemingly calm look on his face when breaking the time barrier, inside he's probably thinking "I sure hope this is still normal..." I hope his future glasses have a Peril-Sensitive setting.

12/14/2010, 03:30 pm	#7
Farlander Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,179	I rewatched the trailer. Though it was after the shot where we were shown the Flux Capacitor, Marty's 'surprised' (or however you call it, 'serious' or 'let's do it' face) face is in fact watching not at the capacitor, but at the time date panel.

12/14/2010, 03:38 pm	#8
Ash FoxX Retro Gamer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 15	Don't forget, last time he was in a DeLorean time machine he almost got pwned by an oncoming train.

12/14/2010, 04:04 pm	#10
Frankov Inquisitive Artist Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: QC, Canada Posts: 46	The part I was referring to is not when he's looking at the date panel, and I didn't talk about the flux capacitor, it's when the DeLorean starts breaking the time barrier. To make it easier, I meant this particular facial expression : I think it's because of the speed at which he squints... He seems to have a dubious expression. At least I thought so.

12/14/2010, 04:10 pm	#11
Farlander Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,179	Oh, you were talking about that. I personally would squint a bit when my car would start sparkling like that (especially if I'm not used to it anymore. Didn't Marty squint in BttF1 during his first time travel?). I mean, it's kind of a natural reaction of the human organism to that kind of stuff.

12/14/2010, 05:21 pm	#17
WoolCorp Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6	Definitely just a homage to when he squints during the movies

12/14/2010, 05:30 pm	#18
Frankov Inquisitive Artist Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: QC, Canada Posts: 46	I want to stress that I am not complaining about the way it looks, or nitpicking the animation. There's no real confusion about his expression, it's just something I thought other people might have noticed. TellTale has done a wonderful job so far and since my interest is at it's zenith, I just wanted to waste some time talking about it here (and what better place?).

12/14/2010, 06:58 pm	#20
Frankov Inquisitive Artist Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: QC, Canada Posts: 46	Well, so far let me say that you seem very knowledgeable about the physics of BTTF, and you're probably the one who could enlighten me. First off, I'm going to disassociate Primer from Back To The Future (I realized I wasn't really following the BTTF rules of time travel) and to make sure, tell me if I'm applying the BTTF rules correctly : Let's say Doc didn't send Einstein 1 min in the future for his first test and tried the following : Although this is a paradox all by itself, but let's entertain the notion... Let's say Doc had a plan... Some sort of 'calculated' paradox. He goes to a remote corner of the parking of TwinPine Mall, and concentrates : "I'm going to send the DeLorean back to this exact moment in precisely one minute. Noone is around, Marty is at home, Einstein is sleeping in the U-Haul and those shifty Libyans are probably playing pinball..." He sets the timer in the Delorean to 01:20:00 for now, closes the door and prepares a few feet away with his remote-control in hand. The time is now : 01:19:30 He stares in the horizon intensely, and waits for the timer to reach 1:20. What happens : If I'm applying the rules correctly, and tell me if I'm correct, is that nothing happens. Because he has to send the car back, meaning the FIRST iteration of Doc doesn't see it. But what if nothing happens, and he thinks "Alright... This is expected... I'm most obviously my first iteration... What the hell, I'll just send a gift to my second iteration." He activates the remote-control and the DeLorean disappears into nothingness... Leaving this Doc with only fire trails to show for his missing family fortune. However, could a second iteration of Doc Brown receive it ? If he does, could he decide to keep the original and have 2... What's the worst that could happen, one of them disappears ? It's just an inanimate object. As we've seen in this trailer, it's possible to time travel without anyone inside the DeLorean... But does that mean we can only send an empty DeLorean in the future, and not in the past ? Looking forward to your thoughts on this !

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