So, anyone else surprised that TTG got beaten to the punch here?

[alexonfyre]

I don't know if any of you guys have played Blue Toad Mystery Files, but it is a funny, episodic puzzle based game with cartoonish characters that even look like they are from the TTEngine. Playing it, I am surprised it isn't by them, since it seems so much to me like the type of puzzle game TTG would make if they made one (much more so than Puzzle Agent.)
I liked Puzzle Agent quite a lot, but I think that anyone who likes TTG and also puzzle games needs to play Blue Toad, though it is PS3 exclusive.

Is anyone else surprised that TTG didn't do it first?

[jweir]

I'll never see that game as long as it's PS3 exclusive as I refuse to buy a PS3. Sony has their hands right in their customer's wallets and doesn't let go. The console is more than other consoles, the games are more than other games, and considering the economy, I'm surprised they can stay in business. Alas, I'm digressing, no I haven't and probably never will play this game.

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by jweir

Sony has their hands right in their customer's wallets and doesn't let go. The console is more than other consoles, the games are more than other games, and considering the economy, I'm surprised they can stay in business. Alas, I'm digressing, no I haven't and probably never will play this game.

Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?

But on topic: The game does look somewhat interesting, and I may try it at some point.

[Steve2911]

Originally Posted by jweir

I'll never see that game as long as it's PS3 exclusive as I refuse to buy a PS3. Sony has their hands right in their customer's wallets and doesn't let go. The console is more than other consoles, the games are more than other games, and considering the economy, I'm surprised they can stay in business. Alas, I'm digressing, no I haven't and probably never will play this game.

Try saying that to Microsoft. They charge an insane amount for their online functionality, force you to buy ridiculously expensive specialised HDD drives and their point system causes you to spend more than you intended to, especially with the pricing of a lot of products (there's a ton of games that cost 1200 points, meaning you have to buy 1000 points, then 500 points seperately, costing more. There's almost nothing going for a simple 1000 or 500). Then you have the insane cost of Kinect, which they're marketting as a near essential item, despite its apparent uselessness, nonfunctionality and lack of decent games to go with it (also overpriced).

Furthermore, to cancel a subscription to XBOX Live, when you realise how pointless and expensive the service actually is (I get more use out of my free PSN account anyway), you have to use a telephone service (there's an option on the website to cancel, but it's greyed out in Europe), which is extremely poor quality (near impossible to hear what's being said on the other line), puts you on hold for 20 minutes or more (way more for me) and asks you questions with no prior indication of this knowledge being required (such as the secret question for your original Microsoft Live account, or the card number used to pay), causing you to have to start all over if you don't have this information ready, all to put you off from cancelling your subscription, keeping their pockets lined.

On top of that, the PS3 is only slightly more expensive itself (and is FAR better value for money), and that's only recently, and depends on the model opted for.

...So yeah, if you think Sony's ripping off it's customers, that's nothing compared to Microsoft.

EDIT: Blast! Ninja'd on almost every point!

[Friar]

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?

But on topic: The game does look somewhat interesting, and I may try it at some point.

Don't forget the Blu-ray player!

[Steve2911]

Oh hell yeah, where would I be without my essentially free Blu Ray player? Absolutely amazing.

[alexonfyre]

Wow guys. This thread went from 0-hellish XB vs PS3 debate. I love all of my systems equally, for different reasons, but I will say that Xbox doesn't offer nearly the value in XBL that it used to, and I am much happy with the offerings from PS+ than I am with them. The point system is retarded and you have to buy more crap all the time in order to get the most out of it.
Anyone who says otherwise is simply trying to justify their own investment in another system by unfairly chastising the other systems for pseudo-problems (The PS3 is too expensive! The Wii is too childish! The Xbox has nothing you can't find better on other systems!)
I bought all of mine for exactly 300 bucks, and used them all more at one point than the others.

This is so not on topic any more it is ridiculous.

[xbskid]

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.

I'd also like to point out that the batteries in the PS3 controllers are, in fact, user serviceable. There are step-by-step instructions in the manual on disassembling the controller and replacing the battery.


More relevant: Even though I own a PS3, I, like jweir, will probably not see BTMF because I'm not quite all for digital distribution. I don't like not having physical assets, or the ability to resell the games. It almost sounds interesting.

[alexonfyre]

Originally Posted by xbskid

I'd also like to point out that the batteries in the PS3 controllers are, in fact, user serviceable. There are step-by-step instructions in the manual on disassembling the controller and replacing the battery.


More relevant: Even though I own a PS3, I, like jweir, will probably not see BTMF because I'm not quite all for digital distribution. I don't like not having physical assets, or the ability to resell the games. It almost sounds interesting.

On PSN you can share the code with up to 6 PS3s, so...technically speaking you can sell it 5 times and never lose the game. Borderline illegal though, the EULA seems to say not to do that.

[xbskid]

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

On PSN you can share the code with up to 6 PS3s, so...technically speaking you can sell it 5 times and never lose the game. Borderline illegal though, the EULA seems to say not to do that.

..Share what code? On PSN, there are no serial numbers or anything to speak of. I know what you're saying; I can have my purchased assets active on up to five (Not six, unless they changed that recently) different PS3s, which means I have to give my account credentials to someone else, unless I'm physically present to sign in and initiate the download(s). After that point, it's akin to Steam's Offline Mode (Minus the must-log-in-to-refresh-the-account-after-a-month business) where the other people don't need to sign in as me to play; they just need a local account with my PSN account associated with it on their PS3s. And yes, that's against the license agreement. But if I don't want it anymore, I can't generate a "gift code" to give to someone to transfer the game. I'd have to sell my account (Which is also against the license agreement).

[Elvenmonk]

I would say Professor Layton beat both of them to the punch.

Also you can swap your PS3 HDD out for any laptop HDD. Instead of paying $120 for 60 GB I paid $65 for a 7200 RPM 320 GB HDD for my PS3. I'll answer the question that always follows. Yes I need that much. I'm nearing 120 to 110 GB of space left right now.

[Pcox]

lol, consoles.

[nOmArch]

Originally Posted by Pcox

lol, consoles.

Pcox wins the thread!!

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Pcox

lol, consoles.

lol consoles indeed. I've grown to despise my consoles more and more as of late, and I'm really not sure if the "next gen" will be able to produce anything that can sway me otherwise. The only thing that coudl get me back into console gaming at this point would be, for example, Ubisoft-style DRM on everything on the PC platform. Even then, though, I'm very much into independent gaming on the PC platform, and that segment very rarely does anything draconian DRM-wise...partially because they can't afford to. =P

[alexonfyre]

Oh my god, I was letting this game run for a while, and there is a running gag of it telling you in various fashions to press "x" to continue. Well, one of the gags was "Look! A three-headed monkey! Oh, you missed it, now press x to continue"

No doubt about it, these guys are playing these games and are probably among us right now!

[Fochivoma]

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?

But on topic: The game does look somewhat interesting, and I may try it at some point.

Okay the Sony people win for you. This thread is about Puzzle Agent. Your point is?

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by Fochivoma

Okay the Sony people win for you. This thread is about Puzzle Agent. Your point is?

Actually this thread is only marginally related to Puzzle Agent, and is primarily about Blue Toad Murder Files, which at the end of my post I said looked interesting and that I may try it out. Furthermore, I was replying to a post within the thread wherein an individual was attempting to sling mud at Sony for seemingly no reason with pretty much unfounded claims, so I felt the need to reply to these claims.

Also, it's pretty hypocritical to call someone out for being "off-topic" while posting something that is even further off-topic.

On-topic: I looked on the PSN store and was saddened by the fact that there isn't a demo, nor the ability to buy anything but episode 1, or the first 3 in a bundle, or all 6 in a bundle. I wish they at least had the "buy 1 episode, then upgrade to full series later" option.

[xbskid]

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

I looked on the PSN store and was saddened by the fact that there isn't a demo, nor the ability to buy anything but episode 1, or the first 3 in a bundle, or all 6 in a bundle. I wish they at least had the "buy 1 episode, then upgrade to full series later" option.

Unfortunately, Sony is not Telltale; they are a giant corporation and they do not care enough to take suggestions. They just want your money. Of course, Telltale wants our money, too, it's just that they seem to deserve mine more than Sony.

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by xbskid

Unfortunately, Sony is not Telltale; they are a giant corporation and they do not care enough to take suggestions. They just want your money. Of course, Telltale wants our money, too, it's just that they seem to deserve mine more than Sony.

Relentless Software made BTMF, not Sony.

[Ribs]

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?

But on topic: The game does look somewhat interesting, and I may try it at some point.

BTW, Half of these points are inaccurate now.