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Old 09/25/2010, 01:41 pm   #1
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I thought I would bring up the conversation of animation on here. Everyone likes animated films, well not everyone. So are there anyone on here that happen to like animation? I am a fan of some animation, mostly the wacky golden age animation.
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Old 09/25/2010, 01:59 pm   #2
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That really depends on the question you're asking, and really the question you've presented is only slightly less broad than "Are you a fan of films?"

I love animation, or that is to say, I enjoy GOOD animation. I am fanatical about some to a degree other people never get to. I enjoy the early output and the history of the Walt Disney company, I know that Ub Iwerks essentially created Mickey Mouse and completely animated his first short on his own in a matter of days. I love the technology of classic animation and its advancement, including things like the MultiPlane Camera. I own a lot of 20s and 30s animation in particular in my collection, including the early applications of stop-motion animation by the likes of Ladislas Starevich(if you have Netflix, some of his shorts are under the Instant Queue under the title The Cameraman's Revenge and & Other Tales). The Walt Disney Treasures series, ESPECIALLY my Oswald the Lucky Rabbit set(the character is better known to many as "that other guy in Epic Mickey" -_-;;) are indispensable, well, treasures. More recently, but not TOO recently, Japanese animation was really good, as well. Kamui no Ken is probably one of the best-animated films I've ever seen, and the distinct cultural flair of Japanese animation and the sheer narrative quality that comes from shows that are actually aimed at adults(such things do exist, and no I am not referring to One Piece, Death Note, or Naruto) is simply fantastic. I'm of course horrendously inadequate when it comes to knowledge of animation though, especially outside of those two countries. Outside of American and Japanese animation, I only really extensively know about Soviet propaganda animation, so there's definitely a lot left for me to watch and study before I can say I really know anything about the medium.

On the other hand, if you're asking if I enjoy modern animated shows or films, Pixar, or any era's Saturday Morning flair? Hell no, with the odd exception(Batman: The Animated Series, Gargoyles with a couple caveats, etc) that proves the rule.
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The first class I ever had when I first went to art school was History of Animation. The first movie we saw there? Fritz the Cat.

What a wonderful way to initiate the poor, defenseless students who were expecting some Disney stuff immediately!
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I adore animation. I love the process of it, I love watching it, and I love making it. I like everything from the original black and white silent short animated films (my first animation was a tribute to those cartoons), the traditional hand-drawn films, computer animated 3D graphics films and computer animated 2D films, and stop-motion animation.

I'm a huge fan of Disney, Pixar, Aardman Animations, Don Bluth, Chuck Jones, and Max Fleischer. I enjoy television animation too. I love the DC Animated Universe (Batman: The Animated Series to Justice League Unlimited), Futurama, The Simpsons, The Critic, Clerks: The Animated Series.

As a matter of fact, thinking about it, at least half of my DVD collection is animation, and even more so if you count computer-generated imagery in films as animation (which I do personally, but it's a highly debated subject).
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yes.

EDIT: I suppose I should expand further. Yes, I like animation. I am studying it, in fact. In terms of how pretentious are my tastes, I'm pretentious enough to have seen a bunch of non-American nor Japanese animated films and pretentious enough to dislike most of Family Guy and Shrek, but I'm not pretentious enough to hate all anime, and I'm not pretentious enough to like Ralph Bakshi or Ren & Stimpy Adult's Party Cartoon. I like most everything, really, or at least I'm willing to give most everything a chance!

EDIT2: Except for Total Drama Island and any of the spin-offs. Those suck hard.
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I like every animation that was ever made.

Okay, maybe that's going a bit too far, but it was a pretty general question. I like a lot of animation, it's hard to narrow it down. Most of it is Western, I'm kinda 'meh' on most modern anime, but I love the Lupin III series and Studio Ghibli.
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The first class I ever had when I first went to art school was History of Animation. The first movie we saw there? Fritz the Cat.

What a wonderful way to initiate the poor, defenseless students who were expecting some Disney stuff immediately!
haha oh wow
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Yep, and the second movie: Felidae. Then we went on to the less traumatizing movies, though Watership Down was thrown somewhere in there.

I would later find out that professor loved to torment the students who were fans of Disney and/or anime coming into the school expecting to work somewhere in those fields, though, so it's all good!
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Yep, and the second movie: Felidae.
That is the most awesome professor ever. I love that movie, it's one of the few instances where I like the movie almost as much as I like the book. And it makes Watership Down look tame.
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Haha, yeah I enjoyed it too, but though it tops Watership Down with its adult themes, I think I liked Watership Down more. (Who can resist that ending and Bright Eyes?)

I remember when he put on Felidae one kid was freaking out: "Oh no it's THIS movie! Have fun not sleeping tonight, guys!" Then I kept watching it and I'm all "well, I'm not sure what demographic this movie was aiming for but it's not so ba-"

*SCENE WITH LIVE CAT PUPPETS*

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Then it was all downhill from there.
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I'm of course horrendously inadequate when it comes to knowledge of animation though, especially outside of those two countries. Outside of American and Japanese animation, I only really extensively know about Soviet propaganda animation, so there's definitely a lot left for me to watch and study before I can say I really know anything about the medium..
Have you watched any French animated films, like Persepolis or The Triplets of Belleville? They're pretty fantastic.
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*SCENE WITH LIVE CAT PUPPETS*

"Welp!"

Then it was all downhill from there.
Believe it or not, the book is worse!

I'd agree that Watership Down is better though, and not least because of 'Bright Eyes'. Have you seen Plague Dogs? They actually managed to make the animated version bleaker than the book in that case...

ETA: Speaking of bleak animation, has anyone else seen Ringing Bell?
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Ah Felidae, I found that on youtube and it's dark and weird story combined with good animation with a unique style fasanated me, not sure if I'd say it was a great movie but I'll give it credit for being different than most talking animal movies

Anyway, yes I love animation. It's something I'd like to be apart of for a career. I have done some very small animations on Image Ready but nothing on a large scale mainly because I give up waaaaaaay to easy due to lacking confidence. I'm hope someday though I'll pluck up enough confidence to do an animated short.
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Have you seen Plague Dogs? They actually managed to make the animated version bleaker than the book in that case...
Yeah I was all ":(" at the ending. I read the book before it too, so it really did feel more depressing!
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Yeah I was all "" at the ending. I read the book before it too, so it really did feel more depressing!
It was kind of the opposite of The Little Mermaid for me, because at the end of that I was like "wait, she gets the prince after all and doesn't die?" Though I guess that was never going to happen in a Disney movie. (and it's probably still more accurate than Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame)
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Well, they did make The Little Matchgirl short pretty accurate, much to my (bawling) surprise.
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Well, they did make The Little Matchgirl short pretty accurate, much to my (bawling) surprise.
True. I guess they can be accurate sometimes!
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Im a fan of clasic animation, indeed scinse i was a kid i just want to give my life to it, yes, that crazy im for animation, i wish to someday study clasic animation, im espesialy fan of the comercial animation of 90,s period to 2002, for me that was the time for animation, naw most of the cartoons suck, i blame the censure and the crazy parents, who taked all the fantasy and joucks away¬¬.That left the pour kids with stiupid shows of real peopple with preadolecent with less identity to be a problem or a challenge for the censure, but glamur and selling, as zoei, and hanna montanna, naked brother band and all that shit... > that IS spoilling the kid brains. Anyway i think ther are some good animated shows on this days, like 3 haha, but ther are good enough to keep me motivated. Ha and i like some of the 30,s animation to,as the koko clown. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDATXtewPrg

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I am like, no love animation. I have discussed on youtube.


And I happen to enjoy some certain aspects of it. I mostly enjoy animation from the golden age of animation. Disney is a hit and miss although the short films from the golden age are enjoyable and even the Oswald shorts(I was even aware of Oswald before Epic Mickey). Oddly enough before Epic mickey i enjoyed Donald Duck more than Mickey mouse lol. Some american animation today just makes me sick. Although that reason is because CG animation has reached my point of annoyance. Although the only CG stuff I was able to sit through is Pixar and possibly the upcoming Goon movie{Which looks interesting for once for a CG film} Hey Pecan, what were the reactions of the people who saw Fritz the cat for the first time? I'd like to hear what happened XD.

Speaking of Fritz. I happen to enjoy the works of Ralph Bakshi. Although Bakshi to me is a hero even though I dont even like fritz at all, but the only thing I was able to enjoy from Bakshi was Wizards, Coonskin, and that mighty mouse cartoon that he did with John k. Cool World I remember seeing in the movie theater with my older brother and a few of his friends{He and his buddies were mistaking about this as a sequel to Roger Rabbit}, and all I can say about that movie is that it had a few good things about it. The animation had nice colors, voice acting, and do I need to explain why the soundtrack has some cool music for a not so good animated film? The only reason why Cool world{In my own view} is even good to look at is because it beats the daylights out of the horrible live-action/CG hybrids that have been happening alot.

And as for dislikes for animation. I happen to dislike ANYTHING from the creator of Family guy. TDI, and basically anything on TV animation today is just horrible to look at. Except for Sym-bionic titan{from the maker of Samurai Jack }.

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