The Walking Dead Law and Order Legacies Jurassic Park Back to the future: The Game Puzzle Agent Sam & Max Tales of Monkey Island Wallace & Gromit's Grand Adventures More Telltale Games
Forgot your password?
No worries, we can help!

The Walking Dead

Go Back   Telltale Games Forums > Back to the Future > Back to the Future Discussion

Back to the Future Discussion The place to discuss all things related to Back to the Future: The Game, and anything else BTTF.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10/20/2010, 06:26 pm   #1
xChri5x
Marketplace Reality
 
xChri5x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: GTA, Ontario
Posts: 1,629
Default Back to the Future Blu-ray Review

DVDbeaver posted a detailed review with screenshots on their site. The restoration job looks incredible.
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-r...re_blu-ray.htm
xChri5x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/20/2010, 06:49 pm   #2
Secret Fawful
Fearless Oathbreaker
 
Secret Fawful's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Stuck In This Pose Sexiness: Off The Charts!
Posts: 5,227
Send a message via MSN to Secret Fawful Send a message via Skype™ to Secret Fawful
Default

Those images are so clear I'm literally using one of them as a desktop background now.
__________________
You're the greatest. The greatest! - GuruGuru214
You'll go far in this life, Fawful. - That Guy In The Wheelchair
Fawful, you sir, are made of win. - mgrant
I love the Fawful! - Davies
You're like a bad comedian. - monkey_05_06
**** you. - Giant Tope
Why do you have to be such an ***hole? - Avistew
You're a miserable little weasel who derives pleasure from being a ****. - AllenB
Grow up. - Mike Haley

Now Playing:
Space Quest 0: Replicated - Space Quest I EGA: The Sarien Encounter - Space Quest I VGA: The Sarien Encounter - Space Quest II EGA: Vohaul's Revenge - Space Quest II VGA: Vohaul's Revenge - Space Quest III: The Pirates of Pestulon - Space Quest IV: Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers - Space Quest V: The Next Mutation - Space Quest VI: Roger Wilco in the Spinal Frontier - Space Quest: The Lost Chapter
Secret Fawful is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/20/2010, 11:21 pm   #3
Laserschwert
The F*ckest Uppest
 
Laserschwert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Cologne, Germany
Posts: 1,852
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xChri5x View Post
The restoration job looks incredible.


Obviously you've never seen a good looking restauration.

I'm really disappointed by the image quality. Sure, it's much better than the DVD, but considering it's a Blu-ray anything else would've been even more suprising. Still, there's way too much digital tinkering going on there... Digital Noise Reduction to remove grain, causing too soft skin textures in some shots, some Auto-Cleanup-Tools for dirt removal, which also caused the removal of some image elements like sparks (just like with the f*cked-up release of Gladiator, which - gladly - Universal realized and corrected a few months later), and edge-"enhancement", faking image sharpness (which isn't there) while causing slight halos around edges.

You might call this nitpicking, but this is "Back to the Future", for crying out loud... one of the crown-jewels of Universal. And this isn't cutting it for such a prestige title. And the argument about the age of the trilogy (and how it was impossible to make it look better because of that) isn't working. Just take the James Bond restaurations as an example. "Dr. No" was made in 1962 and the Blu-ray looks stunningly crisp and detailed... and that's real detail, not "lets sharpen the image, they won't notice it's not real"-detail.

Last edited by Laserschwert; 10/20/2010 at 11:26 pm.
Laserschwert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/21/2010, 02:29 am   #4
Vainamoinen  Community Moderator
Community Moderator
 
Vainamoinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 6,837
Default

Thanks for that review. I would have bought a BR player just for the triology (in fact, I had planned this for months), but sudden monetary impossibilities have prevented this. I'm glad there's at least some criticism so I don't feel left out.
__________________

Moderators on the TTG forums are all volunteers from the community and still belong to the community. They are not employees of the company. The opinions expressed in their posts are those of individual fans and must not be confused with official company statements.
Vainamoinen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/21/2010, 07:21 pm   #5
StevenMcFlyJr
Member
 
StevenMcFlyJr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 89
Default

The best wallpapers will come from this BluRay edition. ;-)

By the way ... as much as all the extras in this, I am quite disappointed by the BttF1 BR disc lacking the cleaned up copies of the actors/actresses "screen tests". They aren't on it ... :-(
__________________

GREAT SCOTT !!!
StevenMcFlyJr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/23/2010, 11:59 am   #6
Rather Dashing
Throw Baby
 
Rather Dashing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,883
Send a message via AIM to Rather Dashing Send a message via MSN to Rather Dashing Send a message via Yahoo to Rather Dashing
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laserschwert View Post


Obviously you've never seen a good looking restauration.

I'm really disappointed by the image quality. Sure, it's much better than the DVD, but considering it's a Blu-ray anything else would've been even more suprising. Still, there's way too much digital tinkering going on there... Digital Noise Reduction to remove grain, causing too soft skin textures in some shots, some Auto-Cleanup-Tools for dirt removal, which also caused the removal of some image elements like sparks (just like with the f*cked-up release of Gladiator, which - gladly - Universal realized and corrected a few months later), and edge-"enhancement", faking image sharpness (which isn't there) while causing slight halos around edges.

You might call this nitpicking, but this is "Back to the Future", for crying out loud... one of the crown-jewels of Universal. And this isn't cutting it for such a prestige title. And the argument about the age of the trilogy (and how it was impossible to make it look better because of that) isn't working. Just take the James Bond restaurations as an example. "Dr. No" was made in 1962 and the Blu-ray looks stunningly crisp and detailed... and that's real detail, not "lets sharpen the image, they won't notice it's not real"-detail.
After seeing this restoration in a theater, I do have to agree with all of this. The film simply doesn't look as good as other notable restorations like(and I hope I don't embarrass myself in front of a far more intelligent videophile here) The Wizard of Oz, Metropolis, or Walt Disney's Snow White. It definitely looks "Good", in that it looks better than previous DVD releases, it's definitely high definition video and it's perfectly watchable. Still, it is by no means amazing, in motion or in stills.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolsome View Post
If its so obscure that Dashing hasn't herd of it then no one has.
Rather Dashing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/25/2010, 04:56 am   #7
Laserschwert
The F*ckest Uppest
 
Laserschwert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Cologne, Germany
Posts: 1,852
Default

I've made a little test, taking a screenshot from the 2 year old HDTV-broadcast of the first film, and spent just a couple of minutes color correcting it and applying some filters (slight grain removal and sharpening). The shocking result: It now looks damn close to the Blu-ray image (except for compression artifacts, as the broadcast was, of course, compressed):

Canal+ HDTV-broadcast
Blu-ray
Edited Canal+ Shot

In other words: There was no restoration! (other than spending a couple of minutes adding some filters). I'd even say, that the broadcast shows a little more detail than the Blu-ray. Sadly I still think that the Blu-ray is probably the best we'll ever see of the trilogy

Some more comparisons between HDTV-version and the Blu-ray can be found HERE.

I really think that Bob Gale should look into this. In an interview he said he was told how many hours went into the restoration of the trilogy
Quote:
Our technicians just recently gave me some data on this. For the first film we required 147 hours to master it; the restoration process with dirt removal and color re-polishing took 420 hours.
but what did they actually do all those hours?? Universal released a messed up Blu-ray before, Ridley Scott's "Gladiator", which suffered simliar issues. Customer outcry on the web was so big that Ridley Scott himself oversaw a newly mastered Blu-ray, which looks just stunningly good. (and people who bought the first release were able to get the replacement free of charge from Universal).

I think now that Telltale is working with Bob Gale, they should bring this to his attention, as it's probably the only possibility to get in touch with him...

Last edited by Laserschwert; 10/25/2010 at 05:09 am.
Laserschwert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/25/2010, 07:03 am   #8
Vainamoinen  Community Moderator
Community Moderator
 
Vainamoinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 6,837
Default

Amazon.com has chosen to display the reviews from the DVD-set for the Blu-Ray as well, thus obstructing actual detailed criticism from BR-afficionados with the quality of this specific product. At the time, the "most helpful" review remarks on the "error on disc 2 and 3", which is of course only applicable to the earliest 2002 DVD release. Oh joy.
__________________

Moderators on the TTG forums are all volunteers from the community and still belong to the community. They are not employees of the company. The opinions expressed in their posts are those of individual fans and must not be confused with official company statements.
Vainamoinen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10/25/2010, 04:19 pm   #9
Silverwolfpet  Community Moderator
Wolfy
 
Silverwolfpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Romania
Posts: 3,043
Send a message via Yahoo to Silverwolfpet
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laserschwert View Post
*shocking example*
Oh my God. Dude...you're right!!

...

Man... It's... a bit sad.
__________________
I am a community moderator, here to assist, keep the peace, and keep these boards clean and friendly for all. I am a volunteer, and not a Telltale employee, and my opinions are my own.


Something awesome this way comes... ^.^
www.silverwolfpet.com
Silverwolfpet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11/01/2010, 09:04 am   #10
Vainamoinen  Community Moderator
Community Moderator
 
Vainamoinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 6,837
Default

I wonder if this will ever get fixed - I mean, if they're selling this as the "restored" version, they might not see the need to. And Bob Gale is obviously really thrilled about this version.

Weellll... back to my DVD set. Yes, the one with the framing problems.
__________________

Moderators on the TTG forums are all volunteers from the community and still belong to the community. They are not employees of the company. The opinions expressed in their posts are those of individual fans and must not be confused with official company statements.
Vainamoinen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11/01/2010, 12:49 pm   #11
taumel
Senior Member
 
taumel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,654
Default

Looking at one of the Lazerschwert pics, my first impression was, that i don't understand the shadows in the scene.
taumel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11/01/2010, 01:29 pm   #12
Origami
Senior Member
 
Origami's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 1,518
Default

Lol....shadows are all over the place!
Origami is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/04/2010, 01:21 pm   #13
derex
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 39
Default Back To The Future Collectors Edition tin

I just found this and WOW! I'm probably going to order it real soon.

check it out: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Future-Trilo.../dp/B003U5UQCE
derex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/05/2010, 08:28 am   #14
PrivateJoker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 586
Default

The extras are exceptional. Like over two hours of in depth stuff, including footage of the first Marty before Michael J.
PrivateJoker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AVGN: Back To The Future Trilogy Secret Fawful Back to the Future Discussion 29 12/26/2010 10:11 pm
Get Your Questions Answered By Back to the Future Co-Creator Bob Gale Alan Johnson Back to the Future Discussion 94 10/11/2010 05:33 am
Japanese Back to the Future? mcfly88 Back to the Future Discussion 7 10/06/2010 01:07 pm
super back to the future 2 snes marty mc fly 2015 Back to the Future Discussion 7 09/21/2010 11:13 am
Walkthroughs Simon 123890 Strong Bad Hints 34 05/05/2009 03:37 pm


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:46 pm.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Telltale Games - © 2013 Telltale, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
Home  |   Store  |   Blogs  |   Forums  |   Product Support  |   Corporate Info  |   Press Releases  |   Jobs  |   Terms of Use  |   Privacy Policy