The Newly Regenerated Doctor Who Thread

[Darth Marsden]

Originally Posted by FitzoliverJ

"Pond Life" leads into this development

Badly, I should point out. One 'silent' argument is all we get.

[LuigiHann]

Yeah, watching Pond Life just means that the breakup comes out of nowhere in Pond Life rather than coming out of nowhere in Asylum

[corruptbiggins]

Why can't it come out of nowhere? Time passes, we don't get to see every last detail of these characters lives.

[FitzoliverJ]

Originally Posted by LuigiHann

Yeah, watching Pond Life just means that the breakup comes out of nowhere in Pond Life rather than coming out of nowhere in Asylum

Really? I thought the whole point of the series was that things were just getting ever more tense in their home till they just exploded.

[Darth Marsden]

If that were the case, it didn't really seem to show amidst the comedy bits with the Ood. I really didn't see all that much tension, just rather silly bits of 'comedy' before it got all dark at the end...

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by corruptbiggins

Why can't it come out of nowhere? Time passes, we don't get to see every last detail of these characters lives.

Because it's unsatisfying, quick, and lazy for a major emotional story arc, even if that arc only lasts for a single episode. In some ways, especially when it only lasts for one episode.

You treat the divorce as though it is an event that actually happened and we only got to start at the tail end of it because we just happened to not be looking at the right time.

This simply isn't the case.

The reason we don't see when Amy Pond gets indigestion from some bad shellfish and spends far too long in a public restroom, or whenever she misses a bus, or when she has trouble getting to sleep even though there's a very important early morning appointment she has to get to, is because those things aren't good storytelling.

We don't care.

Amy Pond and Rory Williams are characters. They aren't people. The events in their lives aren't something that occurs that we just happen to look in on, they're aspects of a narrative, fabricated entirely for our enjoyment. Their lives are created by somebody, and what we see is meant to fit into a larger structure. If something comes out of nowhere for seemingly no apparent reason and is then immediately resolved, it's not because it just happened. It's because some writer somewhere created it as a cheap way to shoehorn in a conflict into the season premiere. We didn't HAVE to jump in months after problems started developing, we didn't HAVE to have no idea until just now that Amy can't have kids, they didn't HAVE to have any trouble of this sort in the first place.

It's shitty, it's obnoxious, it's just bad.

[coolsome]

Yh that pissed me off in Asylum. I don't see why they thought it was needed for the ep wasnt the Daleks and Oswin's Dalek twist enough to keep us entertained with out a crappy will they wont they that gets resolved faster then the probems shown and its not like anyone was thinking omg is this the end of Rory and Amy we knew they would get back togeather anyway.

[coolsome]

[coolsome]

The Silence says they have been there since the wheel and the fire. The Doctor gave the cavemen the wheel and fire in the FIRST episode! What if they have been around that long in Earth's histroy cos they where on the TARDIS and exited and stayed in the caveman age.

[Darth Marsden]

It's never been confirmed that it was Earth in the first story. It could have easily been an alien planet.

[coolsome]

Originally Posted by Darth Marsden

It's never been confirmed that it was Earth in the first story. It could have easily been an alien planet.

But that ruins the theory that I really like!

[Darth Marsden]

...I think I liked that. I'm not sure. I may have to watch it a couple dozen more times.

One immediate plus - it's the first episode this series that DIDN'T need more than 45 minutes.

[coolsome]

The Doctor really needs to meet Clara/Oswin/whatever Oswald! He is close to going to far down a dark path he can't get back from.

[Darth Marsden]

So the reason for the Doctor being so dark is basically what I said a couple of pages ago? Man, I'm just awesome.

[coolsome]

Originally Posted by Darth Marsden

So it's basically what I said on the previous page? Man, I'm just awesome.

Yh each ep seems to have him walking closer to the edge killing a old bitter monster is one thing but he came close to killing a man who is basic him self! Someone who has done horrific things to save people. IN A WAR.

I wouldn't be mad if I was turned into a Gunslinger that thing looked frigging awesome!

[coolsome]

Patrick Troughton does better delivery then Matt Smith.

[Ash735]

So has anyone else here noticed the Vortex changing with each episode? Not seen it mentioned so just wanted wanted to bring it up, for the first five episodes of this series the Opening Titles will be getting Darker and more Red Tinted as the weeks go on to reflect what's happening with The Doctor.

[Darth Marsden]

Actually, I've noticed the words 'Doctor Who' change pattern depending on what the episode's about. For DoaS it was all green and scaly, and for Mercy it was like wood. It's a neat little touch. But then again, I don't like how they've changed the logo morphing into the TARDIS. It seems so clunky compared to the old way.

[Darth Marsden]

No. No nononononono.

The DW game is shit. Any of them. All of them (except the DS one, that one's OK). And I should know, because I've played them all. I have suffered greatly to bring you this knowledge. So don't question me on this.

And since I'm on an image roll, here's where all those games (again, except the DS one) deserve to be:

[Alcoremortis]

So I'm in the middle of Town Called Mercy and found an interesting continuity error.

When the Doctor gets the sheriff badge, it moves from his lapel to his pocket and back to his lapel.