Hit the pipe?

[The Highway]

I can't manage to do it to get the "soup" to roll down. I have been trying this puzzle for over an hour and I'm assuming a bad puzzle design, but I really need to do this.

[jeremycards]

you have to make young doc help you with the door, once he puts his contraption at the door to keep the tables still, go make cueball add spice to the soup, then go and hit the pipe

[The Highway]

done the contraption, made him add spice, i click on the pipe and he just talks. i honestly have no clue what to do

[divisionten]

Originally Posted by The Highway

I can't manage to do it to get the "soup" to roll down. I have been trying this puzzle for over an hour and I'm assuming a bad puzzle design, but I really need to do this.

1. Please use spoiler tags.

2. Solution:
A. Have Emmett make a door jamb (He will say Eureka when he is done)
B. Have the cook spice the soup (any spice is fine)
C. Hit the pipe.
The Jamb will hold up the card tables, the spice rack in use will have moved the cart, so that when the ring is sounded the barrels ill tip instead of fall to the cellar below.

[jeremycards]

ah, i think you have to see him get the barrels down the elevator first, try to exit and that girl will come and take some barrels, then they'll have to replenish. Maybe that's what you'r missing

[kanoba]

wait round the coner of the soup kitchen with doc and just stand there till you see a cut scene where the lift goes down

[PrivateJoker]

Some of these puzzles aren't very intuitive.

[The Highway]

Well, to be honest, it is difficult to remember forum ettiquite when the game won't work.

I have the door jam in place
Cook is adding the spice
I hit the pipe click the pipe

"Looks like these pipes go into the basement..."

WHAAT DO I DO I REALLY WANT TO PROCEED




@ kanoba I just have to STAND THERE?

[divisionten]

Originally Posted by The Highway

Well, to be honest, it is difficult to remember forum ettiquite when the game won't work.

I have the door jam in place
Cook is adding the spice
I hit the pipe click the pipe

"Looks like these pipes go into the basement..."

WHAAT DO I DO I REALLY WANT TO PROCEED

Ah! I know what your problem is. You have to leave the kitchen and talk with Edna about her soup racketeering first.

[Cilliandrew]

"Some of these puzzles aren't very intuitive."

Haha, the beauty of adventure gaming, my friend. You should have seen some of the puzzles during the SPACEQUEST games.

[jeremycards]

i think you'r missing a scene, dont remember exactly what i did, but at some point you see than they use an elevator when the pipe is hit to lower the barrels of liquor. Try talking with emett untill every option is done, fool arround a little out of sight from cueball and that scene should pop up, also try to exit the place to get the scene with the girl picking up the barrels.

[The Highway]

ok, i did it. its not very well designed. I made it through 6 levels of angry birds while waiting for that cutscene.

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by PrivateJoker

Some of these puzzles aren't very intuitive.

...Every single puzzle other than this one is STUPID easy.

[skynight8]

Marty has to "discover" three things before you can solve the puzzle. It seems they can be done in any order. (This is the order I did it in.)
1. The "Special Soup"
2. The Kitchen Door
3. The Use for the Pipe

THE SPECIAL SOUP
To discover the "special soup", click on the barrels on top of the metal rack while Cue Ball is sitting in front of you. He will talk about the special soup and finish with a comment about being "too nosy." Now Marty knows which barrels he needs. Also, you will know you were successful because when you mouse over those barrels again, their name has changed.

THE KITCHEN DOOR
Marty has to try to open the kitchen door and fail. After he fails, you can ask for Emmett's help. After some time passes, Emmett will prop the door open with a spatula. You will know that he has done this when he says "Eureka!"

THE PIPE
After some more time passes, Cue Ball will go to the pipe on the right wall and bang it. This will cause the metal rack with the barrels of "special soup" to be lowered into the basement through a trap door. It will immediately come back up empty and then the goon from earlier will refill the rack. Now Marty knows what to do with the pipe.

*Assuming you have done everything above, you can then solve the puzzle using the following steps:

1. Talk with Cue Ball and ask for some crummy soup. If you already have the soup, go to step two.
2. Tell Cue Ball to add a spice to the soup, any will do. (I chose Salt)
3. Cue Ball will get up, move the rack, get a spice and stir the pot.
4. While he stirs the pot, go to the pipe on the right wall near the door and click on it. (The pipe is an interactive item you can reach without going into the kitchen area.)
5. Marty will bang on it with the tape recorder. Then you can watch the cut scene showing that you have solved the puzzle.

CUT SCENE - "Solved the Puzzle"
6. The trap door will open, causing the metal rack to fall over.
7. All of the "special soup" barrels will roll off the top, across the counter and will hit the tables that are being propped up by the door Emmett propped open earlier.
8. Ms. Strickland will come in and Cue Ball will hand her a barrel of the "special soup."

From here, you can go back to the town square and talk with Ms. Strickland. Now you will need to find a way to get that "soup."

I hope this helps. Good luck!

[fawker]

yeah there is definitely something funky going on with getting him to hit the pipe.. i was on that part over an hour and have no good reason why he finally did it.. maybe some weird combination of clicking on this or that i have no clue..

probably not working as intended.. and yes it was the toughest puzzle haha..

[Cyphox]

Originally Posted by The Highway

ok, i did it. its not very well designed. I made it through 6 levels of angry birds while waiting for that cutscene.

its not that "its not very well designed", it depends on the players experience with adventure games, i had no problem at all solving this puzzle

well, a little tiny problem, i knew i had to hit the pipe, i just couldnt find the right spot to do that at first, lol

mmmh... hit the pipe.... sounds like jump the shark or nuke the fridge, lol

[Hanglyman]

The cutscene with the pipe and the trap door NEVER HAPPENS, making the game unbeatable. Marty just talks when clicking the pipe. Apparently this only happens to some people, judging from the responses here, but if you have this problem, what are you supposed to do? Is there some trick to making the pipe and trapdoor scene happen so Marty knows to knock on the pipe? Does it require you to stand around the corner waiting for over 5 minutes (which is how long I waited before giving up)? If so, then that is undeniably HORRIBLE game design.

EDIT: And yes, I've had every conversation with Emmett, Cueball and Edna, multiple times, and had the scene where Edna comes in as you're leaving the kitchen. It's STILL not happening.

[WinterSnowblind]

After getting the asking the man to put some spice into the soup, you just walk around to Emmet and that should trigger the cut-scene with the elevator. You can then get him to jam the door and follow the rest of the steps that have been posted here.

Can't say I had any problems figuring this out at all.. Unless there is a big glitch affecting some, I wouldn't call this unintuitive, it's just simple problem solving.

[Fullmetal X]

The game is not unbeatable, judging by the number of people who have beaten it. Have you followed the instructions listed earlier in the thread on how to solve this puzzle.

First of all, have you triggered the cutscene that shows Cueball hitting the pipe and triggering the trap door? Has Emmett made the door opener that props up the tables? Did you have Marty ask Cueball about the "special soup"? Did you tell Cueball to add spices to the soup before attempting to hit the pipe?

[Hanglyman]

Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

After getting the asking the man to put some spice into the soup, you just walk around to Emmet and that should trigger the cut-scene with the elevator. You can then get him to jam the door and follow the rest of the steps that have been posted here.

Can't say I had any problems figuring this out at all.. Unless there is a big glitch affecting some, I wouldn't call this unintuitive, it's just simple problem solving.

Then there must be a big glitch. I did exactly that several times before, and tried it again just now to make sure. I talked to the guy, made him spice the soup, walked around the corner to Emmett and waited, and all that happened was he eventually stopped stirring the soup, moved the shelf back into place, and sat down. No pipes, no knocking. That's "simple problem solving" in the same way that walking outside of the garage at the beginning and having no DeLorean show up and nothing to click on would be a "simple problem".

Anyway, sorry for being so harsh about it (doubly so now that I've cooled down a bit, I know you're just trying to be helpful), I'm just irritated that some people's response to a game-breaking glitch is "oh, you just suck at adventure games". Not the case, I assure you. Thank you for trying to help, but it looks like maybe the only option now is to restart the game and hope that whatever exact path of choices led to the bug doesn't repeat.