Jurassic Park Mystery?

[Trenchfoot]

I don't care what Koepp or Spielberg say, I will always think a group of Raptors did it. Think about it, the way the hand is cutted is the same way as Arnold's hand was when Ellie found it in the shed.
In fact, if the Raptors landed on San Diego and nobody noticed them, it could have been an awesome sub-plot.

However, the theory regarding this on JP-Legacy is that the Raptors killed the crew but then jumped into the ocean and drowned. Seems a stupid way to die for such intelligent animals....

[DerJan]

it was the mysterious *drums* PLOT HOLE!
There are some plot holes out there in the Universe sucking everything inside, even logic.
Rumors say there are also plot holes in the bermuda triangle sucking air planes, ships and reasonable explanations inside.
Beware of the HOLE!

[waroftheworlds01]

Mayby raptors snuck on the boat, attacked the crew, went into the cargo hole, and was killed and eaten by the T-Rex. Hell, I think the T-Rex could have eatten them whole which would explain why the raptors were never found.. Infact, you really only need one raptor to take down the people on that ship seeing how it has the element of surprise on it's hands.

[tope1983]

okay. So unless an upcoming JP movie will explain this issue (by indicating that Malcolm and Harding weren't told the truth and beside the tyrannosaur their had been raptors on the boat which were then caught and then taken to Jurassic Park San Diego) it will remain a mystery or at least bad screenwriting.

But there's another thing I wonder about:
in Jurassic Park the tour has been cancelled and Arnold says that the tour vehicles "are now returning to their depot". In the novelization of the film there are turning areas mentioned and although not seen in the movie it is obvious because the vehicles pass the T-rex paddock again but in the opposite direction. But when Hammond asks Muldoon to bring his grandchildren back Muldoon and Sattler reach the T-rex paddock from the wrong direction. Actually they didn't know where exactly the cars stopped so it would be reasonable to drive along the tour road until you find the explorers but then Muldoon should reach the T-rex paddock through the tunnel we saw earlier in the movie and NOT from the direction of the triceratops (and if that was the shorter way from the visitors center why did Arnold turn the tour vehicles to go back the longer route?).

[Nitram]

If memory serves;

There was originally meant to be a scene that shows raptors onboard the ship. It was cut from the final film however, leaving the mysterious body parts in areas the T-Rex couldn't get to.

- Nitram

[groucho983]

Originally Posted by Nitram

If memory serves;

There was originally meant to be a scene that shows raptors onboard the ship. It was cut from the final film however, leaving the mysterious body parts in areas the T-Rex couldn't get to.

- Nitram

Give this man a cigar...or if he/she isn't a smoker, a roasted leg of T-Rex.

[Irishmile]

Its funny... last night I watched the movie with my son... he was all like "wait a minute... how did the T-Rex get into that little room?"

[Icedhope]

Actually you never see the other side of the bridge, just the one side so the rex could have crashed through it.

[Irishmile]

im convinced it was a flesh eating bacteria and therefore just a coincidence.

[samusaran253]

Originally Posted by Trenchfoot

I don't care what Koepp or Spielberg say, I will always think a group of Raptors did it. Think about it, the way the hand is cutted is the same way as Arnold's hand was when Ellie found it in the shed.
In fact, if the Raptors landed on San Diego and nobody noticed them, it could have been an awesome sub-plot.

However, the theory regarding this on JP-Legacy is that the Raptors killed the crew but then jumped into the ocean and drowned. Seems a stupid way to die for such intelligent animals....

Yet that still makes more sense than the T-rex doing it.

[robotpo]

Originally Posted by RexMaster

NOPE! u guys are wrong, it actually said in the original script and stuff that it was raptors that stowed away on the ship which was a reference to the first novel and that was supposed to be showed in a scene on the ship but that never made it to the screen. What does make me wonder is where the raptors went... ooh that could make for a good comic miniseries!

This is a rumor that has been online for years, but I believe is fan-fueled. There's never been a version of the script, or any official source, that has given the "Raptors of the Ship" explanation, although it could be reconned later on, (and would make a good story as may have been mentioned in another thread ).

In the Making of TLW Book and Documentary, when the original endings were being discussed, I think they'd include something major like Raptors being involved.

Anyhoo, I personally love the whole Incident in San Diego; yes, the arrival of the Venture is an homage to Dracula, (as opposed to JP3, which gave us an homage...to...Peter Pan?), and what happened is supposed to be uncertain...we're looking at the aftermath of the animal attack and should be as unsettled as the characters.

What apparently happened was:

1. Captured male Rex kept on deck of Venture in the metal restraints that can be seen in background

2. Rex stops breathing, stimulant is administered

3. Rex wakes up, becomes a "locomotive", rampages around and eats the crew of the ship

4. With his last strength, an injured crewman lures the Rex into the cargo hold and closes the door on him before expiring

As for the hand on the wheel...it's a goof. There's no way the Rex could have eaten a guy who was that far inside without taking out the wheelhouse!

[Nackhe]

I'm pretty sure the 'Venture' is supposed to be a nudge towards the ship by the same name from King Kong

[robotpo]

It is, it's a double homage...

The Venture is the ship which brings a captured Kong to New York, and the captured Rex to San Diego

In Dracula the ship Demeter arrives in a London port with no one aboard, the crew having been killed, and carrying the Undead King in the cargo hold; the Venture arrives with no one aboard, the crew having been killed, and carrying the Tyrant King in the cargo hold...

[Nackhe]

I see, didn't know about that. Sorry

[Bombillazo]

Originally Posted by Trenchfoot

I don't care what Koepp or Spielberg say, I will always think a group of Raptors did it. Think about it, the way the hand is cutted is the same way as Arnold's hand was when Ellie found it in the shed.
In fact, if the Raptors landed on San Diego and nobody noticed them, it could have been an awesome sub-plot.

However, the theory regarding this on JP-Legacy is that the Raptors killed the crew but then jumped into the ocean and drowned. Seems a stupid way to die for such intelligent animals....

I agree, I also think Raptors made it onboard. At least juveniles, they even could've made it into the city! I also think some crew did survive but scrambled around the deck to the bottom of the ship when the Rex went on rampage. Some went into the holding area where the Rex followed them and got himself caught again, and knock out by the boat crashing into the port.

I also think the Cargo Doors may have had a Security Override that closed the door after a certain time, given the dangerous cargo they where transporting. The T-Rex collapsed very near arriving San Diego, not mid-trip. Thats why the boat was speeding into the port to arrive before the Dino died.


About the High Hide, its no problem to have the High Hide without the car, he could just lock the ropes to where the HH is swinging from, some sort of hook, or and anchor type object and he left with the car.