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Old 02/18/2011, 12:57 pm   #21
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This, so much so!

Watching fanboys foam at the mouth in rage over just the possibility of change in their favorite genre is hilariously entertaining. (Even when I'm the rabid fanboy doing the ranting, as I can be on other subjects.)
I just don't get it. I played both Sierra and Lucasarts (and accolade, and microprose, and Infocom and Scott Adams and etc etc etc) back in the day and I don't have a problem with. Sure there are differences but it was all good.

I am getting tired of Telltale=Lucasarts chant. Can Telltale be its own thing for now on?
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I wish to try to get this thread back to the way I originally intended it. What does everyone hope for in this game? I hope they keep deaths in, maybe even allowing a retry as a compromise
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That's a good news nonless.

Oh, and I dare to say that LucasArt is better than Sierra, just to pissed him off
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Old 02/18/2011, 01:00 pm   #24
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You started a thread about the King's Quest reboot. You can't bar people from speaking their minds about it. This isn't a LucasArts vs Sierra debate we're bringing up here. It's a Telltale =/= King's Quest debate. Nothing to do with the companies.

They have never proven they could (or even wanted to, in fact they've said as much in the past) handle an IP like King's Quest. This will either succeed immeasurably beyond any of their previous titles or fail horribly. My money is on the latter.
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They have never proven they could (or even wanted to) handle an IP like King's Quest.
Nor have they proven they can't handle it. Keep an open mind.
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Based on everything they've done thus far I have to say yes, they have proven they can't handle it. Not properly anyway.
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They didn't prove they could make Sam and Max or Tales either, before they did :P. I hope they keep that little musical intro that all the old Sierra games had when it showed the logo and the mountain
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But they didn't even do THOSE well. The original games are far better than the ones Telltale made. I only was looking forward to Tales because I was a fan and I believed. But looking back, Tales really wasn't a great game compared to the originals.
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They didn't prove they could make Sam and Max or Tales either, before they did :P. I hope they keep that little musical intro that all the old Sierra games had when it showed the logo and the mountain
If I may be frank (I'm not, I'm Rob) but the only thing Telltale has prove they can't do is a good game of Poker. So long as they don't make an update of Leasure Suit Larry Casino, I think they will be ok.
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Seriously guys, all we now is "TTG is making a King's Quest game"... All the comments before you see anything are pretty useless, especially when you just say "TTG can't make it", like it or not, they will. So Wait and see.

EDIT : And stop saying that TTG didn't make good S&M and MI. Ok, Hit the road was great, and some MI are better... But you all seems to forgot that if TTG was not there, no other S&M or MI was made. Plus, MI4 was way crappier that TOMI for exemple. As a "consolation game"... it's pretty good (and damn good in fact). TTG never disappoint me so far.

Funny to see that, when TTG announce a licence, everyone scream and complain. Never for other companies, just because when it's EA and Activision we all say "well, it's gonna be bad, we know it already", like it's a fact. TTG make you react... strange...

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But they didn't even do THOSE well. The original games are far better than the ones Telltale made.
hmmm wow. Ok, well. Have fun living in the past and all.
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Old 02/18/2011, 01:10 pm   #32
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I don't like King's Quest, but mostly for its awful design philosophy. I'll give this a go, I think.

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Until now I've been disappointed in Telltale, but now I'm absolutely livid. How dare they. THEY DON'T F@#$%ING DESERVE IT. THEY HAVEN'T EARNED IT. THEY CAN'T DO IT.
I can tell you've been disappointed. Over 5000 posts to your username. You either love attention or really don't know what "disappointed" means.
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I have every right to be wary about something when everything Telltale have done in the past has consistently been lowering the bar as far as game design goes. I hoped Telltale would get better but they're getting worse. Seriously, we're not the defensive fanboys here....you are. Defending everything Telltale does. If you like their snooze-fest style gameplay than I'm sure you'll like their new King's Quest but it's not going to be ANYTHING like the originals if that's the case. And as a longtime fan of King's Quest, that upsets me.
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If I may be frank (I'm not, I'm Rob) but the only thing Telltale has prove they can't do is a good game of Poker. So long as they don't make an update of Leasure Suit Larry Casino, I think they will be ok.
Actually Im pretty sure Texas Holdem was pretty decent.
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I wish to try to get this thread back to the way I originally intended it. What does everyone hope for in this game? I hope they keep deaths in, maybe even allowing a retry as a compromise
I don't mind deaths. I mind the dead ends and all the horrible puzzles. Also, having to restart after death, but that's easily fixable.
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“Sure, I’ve played a few old-schoolies. The first adventure game I ever played is the one that the genre is named after, “Adventure”, which I came across in the late 1970′s. Later, while I was working at LucasArts, I played some of the Sierra titles, and others, you know, checking out the competition. I found those games interesting and challenging, but ultimately very frustrating. They tended to punish curiosity with death, and they had all these puzzles where the solutions were amusing but often arbitrary and more or less impossible to figure out. It was like no one was thinking about what it would actually be like to PLAY the game. I claim no personal innocence on this point, by the way; I did write and design some games at that time which, while somewhat friendlier, are decidedly old school with some of their puzzles. I’m still apologizing to random strangers on the street for expecting them to think of hypnotizing a monkey as a rational way to turn him into a monkey wrench.”

“As for where it’s going now, I see a shift from puzzle games with story to story games with puzzles, if that makes sense? The story and characters, which were probably always the most compelling part of the experience anyway, take center stage, and the challenge offered to the player is whatever best supports the moment and the scene at hand, instead of whatever makes the designer look clever. The games are also often being made less lengthy and more accessible, to fit with the busy lives of modern players.”
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I'm really happy about this! <3 I can think of no better company to tackle this. Sure it's going to be different , but if series like TOMI and BTF have shown Telltale can really get to grips with the atmosphere of old series. The % of my gaming budget going Telltale's way is going to be horrendous!
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I just want to say that I think Tales was an excellent game. The writing was great, it was funny, had great puzzles and introduced one of the series best characters (Morgan Leflay). I just thought the controls were a bit awkward . I hope we get to use Graham in this new KQ.
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Old 02/18/2011, 01:19 pm   #39
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As much as I think this could be interesting, I feel that King's Quest has never really left the popular conciousness, and I'd be much more interested to see Telltale try to bring the Quest for Glory series back. It's not really their style at all, but it would be a dream come true to see that series back for me. I consider it to be probably one of the most underappreciated franchises that Sierra ever produced. Perhaps next? :P

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